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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.JamesSeed said:It’s all gone veeeeeeeeery quiet.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.cafcfan1990 said:
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.Greenie said:
Someone take the shovel away......!cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.0 -
Takeover being tabled as amendment to May’s withdrawal agreement I’ve heardHenry Irving said:
Good day to hideFerryman said:
Might be happening today but not a good news day with the Brexit domination.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Will it ever happen though, that's the question.Dazzler21 said:Are we going to care anymore when it does happen?
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Because Roland is a cnut of the highest order and we can never be a United and successfully club until he fucks offcafcfan1990 said:
But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.JamesSeed said:It’s all gone veeeeeeeeery quiet.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.cafcfan1990 said:
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.Greenie said:
Someone take the shovel away......!cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.15 -
Whoever owns us at the end of the season, if all the good players out of contract are given new contracts and none of our better players sold, the club will be in a good place. If we are promoted as well, that will be the cherry on the top. I am not advocating I want RD to stay, as long as he does not do what he did to Standard Liège2
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Problem is, not even the Rat himself knows what he might do at any given moment !ross1 said:Whoever owns us at the end of the season, if all the good players out of contract are given new contracts and none of our better players sold, the club will be in a good place. If we are promoted as well, that will be the cherry on the top. I am not advocating I want RD to stay, as long as he does not do what he did to Standard Liège
" Red pants, or white pants today, Ro ?" asks Madame D as she lays out his clothes for the day.
" Huh. Err, red. No white . Err, red, huh "
Later, Madame D finds both pairs still in situ on the bed.....
Ro has gone commando.
But is wearing the blue pair on his head.
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Of course he won't. He won't reveal it to himself, His ego will ensure that. However here is a cold hard fact for you. Although RD has said he is finished with football, there are no signs whatever of him actually selling his stake in either Alcorcon or Ujpest, or his part share of Jena. It means that Charlton join Standard as the only two clubs he is actually getting out of, or has already done so. Some people may say he also sold STVV, but this isn't true in practice. He owns the stadium and infrastructure, and his baleful physical presence can regularly be observed there. What Charlton have in common with Standard is that both sets of fans, in their distinctively different ways, made it abundantly clear to him that his ownership was unappreciated. This lack of appreciation extended to the football world, where he is widely held in contempt by the ownerships of the other clubs. It seems to me beyond doubt that the protests are what has brought him to his decision to sell these two clubs. If you study RD's personal history, especially his failed attempt to get into politics you can discern a need to be loved and appreciated by the "masses". The Standard and Charlton fans have made it abundantly clear to him that he is not appreciated, but held in universal contempt. Without the protests this would not be clear to him at all.cafcfan1990 said:
Possibly, I don't think we will ever know exactly how much of an effect they had. They obviously contributed but I doubt Roland will ever reveal exactly what impact they had.Henry Irving said:
They still worked.cafcfan1990 said:
They haven’t been as successful as hoped because he is still our owner.Henry Irving said:
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.kentaddick said:
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I don't think anyone thought that one protest or one trip to Belguim would make him sell for £1 to the next bidder.
I said many years ago we had no knock out punch and that we had to keep jabbing away to wear him down and that is just what the protests, the publicity, etc etc did hence we are within sight of what we wanted, a sale.
The protests worked.
As for being within sight, we were told this over 12 months ago. As I said, he is still here.
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It must be true then ........ (!)CafcSCP said:
Apparently it’s being reported in the sunnth london addick said:Where’s the grant to rangers come from
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I’m saying a few wins doesn’t make it all alright and Roland is an owner worth having .cafcfan1990 said:
But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.JamesSeed said:It’s all gone veeeeeeeeery quiet.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.cafcfan1990 said:
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.Greenie said:
Someone take the shovel away......!cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.
The contract situation is a joke as is the management structure outside of the football pair who were the cheap options that fell in to place .
I’m all for cheering the team on if you so wish, I do .
But the punters who don’t go and abstain are making the biggest sacrifice .
And I think the supporters who are indifferent to Roland are lame ducks who are happy to ignore his shitness of the past and can’t see past the next 4 months of football for our club.
I understand people that don’t live and breath every bit of the club as some do but the bigger picture of the future of Charlton Athletic is more important than one promotion or not from League One .
The poison that has damaged our club is still here and I’m not turning a blind eye to that and if you can’t see the bigger picture then lucky you Cos I know I can’t make the blind see .
I was shouting that this owner was a joke experimenting with our club from season one but people couldn’t look beyond the 4 months of we’ve survived in the Championship when the writing was on the wall what that clown owner was doing and of course we have 3 years of league one dog shit as our neighbours feast at a higher table laughing at the joke owner to a point where it turns to pity because it’s so abysmal.
Yes things might look rosey for 5 mins but I want another 113+ years of existence with less shit bits in it for the future and the future will be shit every minute the poison that is Roland is the owner of our club .
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He’ll never publicly reveal it because his ego won’t allow it.cafcfan1990 said:
Possibly, I don't think we will ever know exactly how much of an effect they had. They obviously contributed but I doubt Roland will ever reveal exactly what impact they had.Henry Irving said:
They still worked.cafcfan1990 said:
They haven’t been as successful as hoped because he is still our owner.Henry Irving said:
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.kentaddick said:
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I don't think anyone thought that one protest or one trip to Belguim would make him sell for £1 to the next bidder.
I said many years ago we had no knock out punch and that we had to keep jabbing away to wear him down and that is just what the protests, the publicity, etc etc did hence we are within sight of what we wanted, a sale.
The protests worked.
As for being within sight, we were told this over 12 months ago. As I said, he is still here.
But the fact he still mentions the protests in interviews means it had a great impact on the proposed sale of the club. If it didn’t contribute much to his decision then he wouldn’t talk about it now.
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Spot onstoneroses19 said:
He’ll never publicly reveal it because his ego won’t allow it.cafcfan1990 said:
Possibly, I don't think we will ever know exactly how much of an effect they had. They obviously contributed but I doubt Roland will ever reveal exactly what impact they had.Henry Irving said:
They still worked.cafcfan1990 said:
They haven’t been as successful as hoped because he is still our owner.Henry Irving said:
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.kentaddick said:
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I don't think anyone thought that one protest or one trip to Belguim would make him sell for £1 to the next bidder.
I said many years ago we had no knock out punch and that we had to keep jabbing away to wear him down and that is just what the protests, the publicity, etc etc did hence we are within sight of what we wanted, a sale.
The protests worked.
As for being within sight, we were told this over 12 months ago. As I said, he is still here.
But the fact he still mentions the protests in interviews means it had a great impact on the proposed sale of the club. If it didn’t contribute much to his decision then he wouldn’t talk about it now.1 - Sponsored links:
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Absolutely agree, and I want him out too. But I also enjoy watching the team play and backing them
Yeah I agree mate and perhaps I have slightly misunderstood what you meant. I apologise for any misunderstanding. I am by no means saying everything is rosy and I am 100% in agreement that Roland cannot be defended. Things will never be rosy with him in charge. I do see the bigger picture, I realise the contract situation is a joke and is a big worry.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m saying a few wins doesn’t make it all alright and Roland is an owner worth having .cafcfan1990 said:
But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.JamesSeed said:It’s all gone veeeeeeeeery quiet.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.cafcfan1990 said:
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.Greenie said:
Someone take the shovel away......!cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.
The contract situation is a joke as is the management structure outside of the football pair who were the cheap options that fell in to place .
I’m all for cheering the team on if you so wish, I do .
But the punters who don’t go and abstain are making the biggest sacrifice .
And I think the supporters who are indifferent to Roland are lame ducks who are happy to ignore his shitness of the past and can’t see past the next 4 months of football for our club.
I understand people that don’t live and breath every bit of the club as some do but the bigger picture of the future of Charlton Athletic is more important than one promotion or not from League One .
The poison that has damaged our club is still here and I’m not turning a blind eye to that and if you can’t see the bigger picture then lucky you Cos I know I can’t make the blind see .
I was shouting that this owner was a joke experimenting with our club from season one but people couldn’t look beyond the 4 months of we’ve survived in the Championship when the writing was on the wall what that clown owner was doing and of course we have 3 years of league one dog shit as our neighbours feast at a higher table laughing at the joke owner to a point where it turns to pity because it’s so abysmal.
Yes things might look rosey for 5 mins but I want another 113+ years of existence with less shit bits in it for the future and the future will be shit every minute the poison that is Roland is the owner of our club .
All I was trying to say is that not all fans want to focus on that. Especially at a time when Roland is trying to sell the club. I don't think any of us know what the hold up/lack of progress it. It could be Roland's price, lack of money from the buyer or something else altogether. But the bottom line is he is actively trying to sell so criticising him for everything he has done in the past won't change anything now.
Success hasn't been a word used often under Roland's reign, but I for one am enjoying the stuff on the pitch. There are plenty of other fans who feel the same and they should be allowed to enjoy watching us win games without criticism IMO2 -
Yep, I agree. I believe they had an impact, I don't doubt it for a second.stoneroses19 said:
He’ll never publicly reveal it because his ego won’t allow it.cafcfan1990 said:
Possibly, I don't think we will ever know exactly how much of an effect they had. They obviously contributed but I doubt Roland will ever reveal exactly what impact they had.Henry Irving said:
They still worked.cafcfan1990 said:
They haven’t been as successful as hoped because he is still our owner.Henry Irving said:
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.kentaddick said:
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I don't think anyone thought that one protest or one trip to Belguim would make him sell for £1 to the next bidder.
I said many years ago we had no knock out punch and that we had to keep jabbing away to wear him down and that is just what the protests, the publicity, etc etc did hence we are within sight of what we wanted, a sale.
The protests worked.
As for being within sight, we were told this over 12 months ago. As I said, he is still here.
But the fact he still mentions the protests in interviews means it had a great impact on the proposed sale of the club. If it didn’t contribute much to his decision then he wouldn’t talk about it now.
I still stand by the fact we thought Roland would be gone by now and that they weren't as successful as hoped. But they had an impact I have never denied that.0 -
Let’s just hope it’s not true!Oggy Red said:
It must be true then ........ (!)CafcSCP said:
Apparently it’s being reported in the sunnth london addick said:Where’s the grant to rangers come from
Bowyer did say that no key players will be leaving the club.
Let’s hope he’s right.0 -
Not one group or individual of supporters is correct and not one group of supporters or individual supporter is incorrect
There is no right or wrong answer to the question of how do you demonstrate your unhappiness with RD
I am yet to find one person happy with him
However supporting Charlton is a personal choice that was made with out any logic just pure emotion based almost totally on the influence they have had on your family or friends prior to your own interaction with them
Therefore no one should tell or take the stance that they are anymore or any less of a supporter because of the actions they have shown during the most divided fan base we have ever endured due the actions shittiest owner in our history
Go
Don’t go
Spend
Don’t spend
It matters not being Charlton is not defined by your action on match day
It’s defined by the person who fell in love with a team that offered little in chance of real highs but the real threat of lows just because we are not deluded to believe that we would ever be top of the pyramid
The self righteous voices of who and why one is better than the other is not Charlton it’s more fucking goonershiteesq than anything34 -
Very well said !nth london addick said:Not one group or individual of supporters is correct and not one group of supporters or individual supporter is correct
There is no right or wrong answer to the question of how do you demonstrate your unhappiness with RD
I am yet to find one person happy with him
However supporting Charlton is a personal choice that was made with out any logic just pure emotion based almost totally on the influence they have had on your family or friends prior to your own interaction with them
Therefore no one should tell or take the stance that they are anymore or any less of a supporter because of the actions they have shown during the most divided fan base we have ever endured due the actions shittiest owner in our history
Go
Don’t go
Spend
Don’t spend
It matters not being Charlton is not defined by your action on match day
It’s defined by the person who fell in love with a team that offered little in chance of real highs but the real threat of lows just because we are not deluded to believe that we would ever be top of the pyramid
The self righteous voices of who and why one is better than the other is not Charlton it’s more fucking goonershiteesq than anything
And I have noted a new word that I was unaware of
“Goonershiteesq”. Brilliant!!1 -
nth london addick said:
Not one group or individual of supporters is correct and not one group of supporters or individual supporter is incorrect
There is no right or wrong answer to the question of how do you demonstrate your unhappiness with RD
I am yet to find one person happy with him
However supporting Charlton is a personal choice that was made with out any logic just pure emotion based almost totally on the influence they have had on your family or friends prior to your own interaction with them
Therefore no one should tell or take the stance that they are anymore or any less of a supporter because of the actions they have shown during the most divided fan base we have ever endured due the actions shittiest owner in our history
Go
Don’t go
Spend
Don’t spend
It matters not being Charlton is not defined by your action on match day
It’s defined by the person who fell in love with a team that offered little in chance of real highs but the real threat of lows just because we are not deluded to believe that we would ever be top of the pyramid
The self righteous voices of who and why one is better than the other is not Charlton it’s more fucking goonershiteesq than anything
Very true which makes the calls on facebook and twitter that "the boycotters can fuck off" "we don't want them back" "You're not a real fan if you protested/boycotted" as stupid as they are sad.
What is amazing is that the same people then complain that the crowds are low or demand that we must get 20k for the next big game.
And yes, slagging of those that still go is just as stupid.
There are a few, a very few, who still think RD is OK, the whole "be careful what you wish for nonsense" but those people will back an any owner regardless. As soon as the Aussies or whoever take over those fans will sing the new bosses praises.
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I can’t stand him and want him out of our club ASAP..
I’m 100% enjoying the games and the football being played... if we don’t sell this month this team will go up0 -
I think there’ll be a few “the be careful what you wish for “ posse who will be looking to claim how it was better under Roland once a poor run of results happen under new owners .Henry Irving said:There are a few, a very few, who still think RD is OK, the whole "be careful what you wish for nonsense" but those people will back an any owner regardless. As soon as the Aussies or whoever take over those fans will sing the new bosses praises.
There’s nowt so queer as folk ... wrong
There’s nowt so queer as Charlton folk !
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Oh, yes Some will be waiting, and already have their excuses ready, for the first set back under new owners to point out that this was all the protesters fault, it was better under RD, CARD have killed the club.oohaahmortimer said:
I think there’ll be a few “the be careful what you wish for “ posse who will be looking to claim how it was better under Roland once a poor run of results happen under new owners .Henry Irving said:There are a few, a very few, who still think RD is OK, the whole "be careful what you wish for nonsense" but those people will back an any owner regardless. As soon as the Aussies or whoever take over those fans will sing the new bosses praises.
There’s nowt so queer as folk ... wrong
There’s nowt so queer as Charlton folk !
In their world if we don't get a crowd of 27,111 at the first game after the takeover this will prove that the boycott was a myth and that CARD was wrong.
If on the other hand things go well under good new owners the line will be "CARD delayed the takeover, we could have had this two years ago".18 -
andynelson said:
Is there a single person who is happy for Roland to stay until the summer? I don't think so.stoneroses19 said:Do people who are happy for Roland to stay until the summer realise that the team they are currently enjoying watching are very unlikely to be here next year?
We need a takeover now or at least in February. If not for any reason, but so that new owners can begin immediate contract negotiations with players due to leave for nothing at end of season.
Have you considered becoming the next PM?blackpool72 said:
Because Roland is a cnut of the highest order and we can never be a United and successfully club until he fucks offcafcfan1990 said:
But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.JamesSeed said:It’s all gone veeeeeeeeery quiet.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.cafcfan1990 said:
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.Greenie said:
Someone take the shovel away......!cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.0 - Sponsored links:
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Yesricky_otto said:andynelson said:
Is there a single person who is happy for Roland to stay until the summer? I don't think so.stoneroses19 said:Do people who are happy for Roland to stay until the summer realise that the team they are currently enjoying watching are very unlikely to be here next year?
We need a takeover now or at least in February. If not for any reason, but so that new owners can begin immediate contract negotiations with players due to leave for nothing at end of season.
Have you considered becoming the next PM?blackpool72 said:
Because Roland is a cnut of the highest order and we can never be a United and successfully club until he fucks offcafcfan1990 said:
But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.JamesSeed said:It’s all gone veeeeeeeeery quiet.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.cafcfan1990 said:
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.Greenie said:
Someone take the shovel away......!cafcfan1990 said:
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...Greenie said:cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.Greenie said:
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.bobmunro said:
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.cafcfan1990 said:
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.addick05 said:
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.cafcfan1990 said:
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.oohaahmortimer said:Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now .
We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.13 -
If the new owners turn out to be better than Roland - CARD/protesting etc didn't get Roland out, it had nothing to do with themHenry Irving said:
Oh, yes Some will be waiting, and already have their excuses ready, for the first set back under new owners to point out that this was all the protesters fault, it was better under RD, CARD have killed the club.oohaahmortimer said:
I think there’ll be a few “the be careful what you wish for “ posse who will be looking to claim how it was better under Roland once a poor run of results happen under new owners .Henry Irving said:There are a few, a very few, who still think RD is OK, the whole "be careful what you wish for nonsense" but those people will back an any owner regardless. As soon as the Aussies or whoever take over those fans will sing the new bosses praises.
There’s nowt so queer as folk ... wrong
There’s nowt so queer as Charlton folk !
In their world if we don't get a crowd of 27,111 at the first game after the takeover this will prove that the boycott was a myth and that CARD was wrong.
If on the other hand things go well under good new owners the line will be "CARD delayed the takeover, we could have had this two years ago".
If the new owners turn out to be worse than Roland - we said "be careful what you wish for", you said "anyone but Roland", thanks CARD/protesters/boycotters for killing the club2 -
It's quite clear just how fundamental the protests have been in persuading Roland to sell, as a lot of posters have eloquently argued over the last couple of pages.
And these quotes from the rat himself (recorded by the Belgium 20 about a year ago I believe) pretty much put it to bed:
"The whole atmosphere got poisoned, and you know without the 12th man you cannot win, you cannot win. You need the 12th man otherwise you are, for example today huh, so as long as there is no 12th man again, there is no point in me investing sums of money in Charlton, makes no sense."5 -
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So in other words, if everyone had agreed with “stop moaning and got behind the team COYR” he wouldn’t be looking to sell.Neil Heaney said:It's quite clear just how fundamental the protests have been in persuading Roland to sell, as a lot of posters have eloquently argued over the last couple of pages.
And these quotes from the rat himself (recorded by the Belgium 20 about a year ago I believe) pretty much put it to bed:
"The whole atmosphere got poisoned, and you know without the 12th man you cannot win, you cannot win. You need the 12th man otherwise you are, for example today huh, so as long as there is no 12th man again, there is no point in me investing sums of money in Charlton, makes no sense."2 -
My view on the protests is they have been useful to persuade RD to get out of football as they form part of a bigger picture of failure and in embarrassing him. I think to not protest would have been a big mistake. I’m not sure how many other clubs fans in the Network have protested but us an Liege being two of the higher profile clubs both did, his failure has been worse at our place of course.
Another perhaps more major factor must be his general failure across the board to be a success. This includes his bonkers transfer policy, hiring of management, but also in UK the loosening of FFP.
I think there’s also an element of the ownership wanting to scapegoat the protests not because it hurts them but because they can blame them
for their own failings.
As for people ranting on Facebook, we’ll thats Social Media for you.
I don’t think there’s any chance of him not selling it’s a question of when. If he gets us up and sells it’s not such a bad thing but what kind of state will we be in. Probably my biggest concern is the aftermath of a sale, the quality of the ownership and the stare the club is in/whether new owners can fix it. Of course the other huge danger is a failed promotion push.5 -
@JamesSeed is your contact still involved?
@Airman Brown do you have any new information?
I just want a morsel to keep me from starving.6 -
Any chance of Roland being part of the 12th man against Accrington or at Fleetwood, we dont need him at Peterboro, quotes like that remind us what a knob he is.5
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