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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited June 2019
    I have given up trying to decipher the handball laws - Refs have completely lost the plot. 
    At least the ridiculous word intentional has been taken out. A hard job has been made even harder now. Can't think of any officials in any other sport that get so much stick.
    Refs don't write the rules but come under pressure when Fifa want  them to implement new or existing rules.

    Patently obvious that the interfering with  play is still too subjective. The refs are all giving goals even when having a second look at the monitor. To most of us including  ex pro footballers this appears to be wrong.
    The own goal header was caused by a offside player, Lloyd of USA was offside and made the defender play the ball and yesterday the attacker was offside and in the keepers eye line.

    Nothing wrong with VAR per se but the human interpretation or rule makers need to be positive on this anomaly.
    Don't understand how the offside law works anymore - several goals seem to have been given when players were clearly offside and affecting the passage of play.
    The bbc have Casey Stoney who played over 100 times for England and is now Man United manager and was number 2 to Neville and her insight in good in how should players defend etc But she is confused with the offsides so it's a shame if they couldnt employ a current or recently retired ref like BT do to  try and explain the  thinking of FIFA because to managers like Stoney and ex managers like me it's just doesn't seem correct.  I don't even mind Graham 3 card trick Poll having a try.
    Just for a couple of games would be good because the football administrators are messing with our beautiful game. 
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,734
    I have given up trying to decipher the handball laws - Refs have completely lost the plot. 
    At least the ridiculous word intentional has been taken out. A hard job has been made even harder now. Can't think of any officials in any other sport that get so much stick.
    Refs don't write the rules but come under pressure when Fifa want  them to implement new or existing rules.

    Patently obvious that the interfering with  play is still too subjective. The refs are all giving goals even when having a second look at the monitor. To most of us including  ex pro footballers this appears to be wrong.
    The own goal header was caused by a offside player, Lloyd of USA was offside and made the defender play the ball and yesterday the attacker was offside and in the keepers eye line.

    Nothing wrong with VAR per se but the human interpretation or rule makers need to be positive on this anomaly.
    Don't understand how the offside law works anymore - several goals seem to have been given when players were clearly offside and affecting the passage of play.
    The bbc have Casey Stoney who played over 100 times for England and is now Man United manager and was number 2 to Neville and her insight in good in how should players defend etc But she is confused with the offsides so it's a shame if they couldnt employ a current or recently retired ref like BT do to  try and explain the current thinking of FIFA because to current managers like Stoney and ex managers like me it's just doesn't seem correct.  I don't even mind Graham 3 card trick Poll having a try.
    Just for a couple of games would be good because the football administrators are messing with our beautiful game. 
    I think it's hugely disrespectful of women's football that FIFA have chosen this tournament to "experiment" with.  They're in real danger of ruining this tournament while everybody tries to figure out what the hell is going on.  I only hope the fate of the eventual winners is decided by the footballers and not the officials.

    Try this stuff in behind closed doors trial matches beforehand, like the ECB did with 100 ball cricket.  Use an under 19 tournament.  Don't scupper this once every 4 years chance of giving women's football a massive boost by making it into a farce, where nobody can figure out what's right or wrong and the refs are left to struggle with new rules and unworkable guidance.  But you know, it's FIFA...
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited June 2019
    Agreed Missed it.

    Greenwood for Stokes at Left back.
    Kirby for Stanways, Parris for Daly,
    and Duggan keeps her place in front of Mead.

    Duggan who didn't have a good game last time out after injury will need to step up today because Beth Mead is unlucky not to come back in. 
    Seeing the bigger picture we need to play for 90 minutes and not in patches.

    We have won 3 matches despite not getting out of Third gear. 3rd gear may be good enough today as long as we are sharp in both boxes.
    Against the improving Norwegians we will need our A game.

    Cameroon today who have some dangerous forwards but I would like to think we can impose our game on them and have a couple of goals to spare.
  • Agreed Missed it.

    Greenwood for Stokes at Left back.
    Kirby for Stanways, Parris for Daly,
    and Duggan keeps her place in front of Mead.

    Duggan who didn't have a good game last time out after injury will need to step up today because Beth Mead is unlucky not to come back in. 
    Seeing the bigger picture we need to play for 90 minutes and not in patches.

    We have won 3 matches despite not getting out of Third gear. 3rd gear may be good enough today as long as we are sharp in both boxes.
    Against the improving Norwegians we will need our A game.

    Cameroon today who have some dangerous forwards but I would like to think we can impose our game on them and have a few goals to spare.
    Onguene stood out in the last game for Cameroon but she needs to learn to pass rather than always attempting to shoot. Her and Nchout will cause us problems defensively.
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    Don’t understand Phil Neville’s hair.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    That Cameroon player should be banned, she saw Duggan was infront of her and still spat
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited June 2019
    Great goal captain.

    So elbow in the face for Parris and the defender just spate at Duggan.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    11 players Cameroon had on  the line then and we still scored haha
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Didnt see the spat but amazed that VAR didnt review the elbow and suggest a change to the card being given

    Is surely the easiest type of card to give when someone does that
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,334
    I'm totally confused by the whole VAR thing, thought they reviewed possible red cards? If so cameroon should be down to 9 already
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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Scott's doing really well so far. That pass was her first mistake I think.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Don’t understand Phil Neville’s hair.
    He's trying to be one of the girls?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    rina said:
    I'm totally confused by the whole VAR thing, thought they reviewed possible red cards? If so cameroon should be down to 9 already
    Yeah VAR can review Red Cards

    Choudary got sent off for England U21 against France last week when he initially got a yellow card
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Ellen White's cross won that free kick we scored from.

    She should get an assist for that arguably.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Duggan is the Ben Reeves of the England team and not in a good way.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
     Where's Trevor two reds Kettle when you need him ?
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    From what I’ve seen England will have to improve massively if they want to win this tournament.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    England look very poor. How was the goal?
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,235
    First game in the tournament I’ve really sat down and watched and I’m very disappointed. I thought the general standard of play would be higher. England’s ball retention and passing is woeful. 
  • First game in the tournament I’ve really sat down and watched and I’m very disappointed. I thought the general standard of play would be higher. England’s ball retention and passing is woeful. 
    Unlike the men's team.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Shocking decision for the lino to raise her flag!!

    Keep it down and let it go to VAR anyway... Just made herself look stupid by guessing
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Why did VAR take so long ?
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Why are the Cameroon players moaning
  • Why are the Cameroon players moaning
     Madness
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    What are Cameroon doing here
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Have they gone on strike ?
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    Proper awful refereeing.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Dish out some bookings ref

    This is dissent!!!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Can someone explain the rules of football to these women please.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Never seen that before, a whole team collectively just standing there. I suppose you should book the captain first