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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Airman Brown said:
That’s not really an explanation of the huge inconsistency in your posts, is it?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources
I can point to others and you can make claims about me, but my question is why were you saying it was close three weeks ago and now saying it has never been close and indeed that suggestions to the contrary were the consequence of an internal policy to mislead fans?
Are you saying your “as good as you could possibly get” source/s were themselves being played by RD, that they were deliberately misleading you, or simply conceding that your two posts are hugely inconsistent? i may be guilty of getting over excited when i was told a few weeks back that dalman had definitely got involved. The fact it hasn't gone anywhere leads me to the conclusion that rd is not desperate to sell at all, and is happy for us to continually believe that the sale is imminent - i think its a big game to him now - the only time it isn't is when he gets hassled in his own country - something that may well be the way forward if it all goes pears again next season0 -
Eric Clapton has played there more than any one elsekillerandflash said:
1868 Eric Clapton plays his first concert therehappyvalley said:1867, The foundation stone is laid for The Royal Albert Hall.1 -
do you really think there is any credibility left in this aussie thing??? i think airman and a load of others have either been double bluffed with all that or rd has just strung the aussies along - either way, they seem a bit of a joke to me now and hope for something other than them will eventually take overChizz said:
See what I mean about "gainsaying"?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources2 -
Would assume it's because RD increased the asking price.se9addick said:
Any way you can elaborate on that? Potential new owners being disappointed after we have some success is a very worrying idea and doesn’t sound good, but perhaps you’re saying RD’s side did something after the Play Off final that upset the Aussies?JamesSeed said:Put it this way, the Aussies weren't best pleased after the playoff final.0 -
Well Damn, my Missus would like all this, there's more rumours in here than old Ena Sharples had in a year on Coronation Street!1
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Why are Footscray RFC sueing?1
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Did you read Prague's post? The idea that they are still around is coming from multiple sources, apparently.DOUCHER said:
do you really think there is any credibility left in this aussie thing??? i think airman and a load of others have either been double bluffed with all that or rd has just strung the aussies along - either way, they seem a bit of a joke to me now and hope for something other than them will eventually take overChizz said:
See what I mean about "gainsaying"?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources1 -
Is this you speaking, or Richard Murray?DOUCHER said:
do you really think there is any credibility left in this aussie thing??? i think airman and a load of others have either been double bluffed with all that or rd has just strung the aussies along - either way, they seem a bit of a joke to me now and hope for something other than them will eventually take overChizz said:
See what I mean about "gainsaying"?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources1 -
the beardChizz said:
Is this you speaking, or Richard Murray?DOUCHER said:
do you really think there is any credibility left in this aussie thing??? i think airman and a load of others have either been double bluffed with all that or rd has just strung the aussies along - either way, they seem a bit of a joke to me now and hope for something other than them will eventually take overChizz said:
See what I mean about "gainsaying"?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources1 -
Airman Brown said:http://www.votvonline.com/home/the-2018-19-blogs/9-6-ex-charlton-directors-respond-over-loan-claims/
The only people insisting on repayment of the loans (in their terms release of the charges) are the buyers, perhaps for good reasons, but the ex-directors have no such leverage.
As for the training ground my guess is that refers to the dispute with Footscray Rugby Club which I’ve reported previously. Why did Roland spend £1m on facilities on their land and a road across it, but then leave them standing unused?
because he's a deranged idiot?
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Actually if you take off what is owed to tricky Dickie, in exchange for a seat at the table it's not far off the numbers quoted!!!Cafc43v3r said:
Here is a conspiracy theory, totally made up by me. Football club £1, training ground £7 million, the Valley £50 million.PragueAddick said:Afternoon all, I am on holiday but the weather is rubbish so I thought I had better check in, though I currently have nothing new to report re the potential new bidder I have previously mentioned. The main source has a mate who is a CL lurker and he too has heard nothing new this week. So to reiterate:
- this bidder was told that if no deal had been closed by Tues just gone, this bidder could have a two week run at it, and according to my source "exclusive".
- but we have no news as to whether that has been activated, or indeed if the bidder has taken up any invitation to activate it
- one other point, per comment earlier from @nth london addick and @JamesSeed this bidder was definitely quoted on first approach £50m plus, and this in the structure £1 for the club, £50m for The Valley, and £5m for the training ground. That however was RD's opener so it does not contradict the lower figure that James has suggested the Aussies had recently been working with
however when the source told me this pricing structure, when we met in Prague, I remember thinking and remarking that this was exactly a price and structure that I had read someone ( I wish I could recall who) quoting on CL, and several weeks before the playoffs too. I thought at the time that this indicated that the old fool had not gone for a post play-off price hike after all.
My best guess is that this bidder has not moved forward, because if they had, my source would have let me know. However there could be several reasons why they have not moved forward, including the possibility that a deal is closing with one of the other bidders. FWIW, my source, (the intermediary for the bidder) felt it was the Aussies in the driving seat. But overall, the lack of clear concrete news from any bidding camp this week does not make me feel good.
Up front purchase price £7,000,001. Ex directors loans paid off, get the club and the training ground. £50 million in installments secured against the Valley, of which Roland owns 100% clear title?1 -
i have no idea what views richard murray holds on any of thisChizz said:
Is this you speaking, or Richard Murray?DOUCHER said:
do you really think there is any credibility left in this aussie thing??? i think airman and a load of others have either been double bluffed with all that or rd has just strung the aussies along - either way, they seem a bit of a joke to me now and hope for something other than them will eventually take overChizz said:
See what I mean about "gainsaying"?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources0 -
Airman Brown said:
That’s not really an explanation of the huge inconsistency in your posts, is it?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources
I can point to others and you can make claims about me, but my question is why were you saying it was close three weeks ago and now saying it has never been close and indeed that suggestions to the contrary were the consequence of an internal policy to mislead fans?
Are you saying your “as good as you could possibly get” source/s were themselves being played by RD, that they were deliberately misleading you, or simply conceding that your two posts are hugely inconsistent?
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multiple sources my arse - there is rd and there are the aussies, if they are indeed 2 things - there are only a maximum of 2 possible original sources, that is allUboat said:
Did you read Prague's post? The idea that they are still around is coming from multiple sources, apparently.DOUCHER said:
do you really think there is any credibility left in this aussie thing??? i think airman and a load of others have either been double bluffed with all that or rd has just strung the aussies along - either way, they seem a bit of a joke to me now and hope for something other than them will eventually take overChizz said:
See what I mean about "gainsaying"?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources1 -
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You know it’s slow news week when there’s a ITK dick measuring contest going on.43
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Looking at all the comments on here and elsewhere, to me its becoming clear that a takeover is nowhere near being agreed, let alone completed. We seem to have gone back to arguing again about who knows what. RD is quite clearly not making anything easy for any buyer and perhaps now the only thing that may make him change is for every group/consortium/individual to just walk away and not play his games. The outcome would be that LB and co will have to manage on the lowest budget for the Championship, and hope they can finish no worse than 20th at the end of the season. I do fear we may however get relegated, but then that would mean, as previously said by @ShootersHillGuru, he loses more money, the club's value falls again and we are back to square one. I just cant see RD selling up anytime soon, no matter what his 'employee' LVT says or indeed his 'stooge' Jim white. This is a sad and worrying state of affairs.7
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so am i chris parkes or richard murray's beard now henry or am i just somebody sitting on holiday in turkey passing comment on how wrong the original title of this thread was? brown nosing never been my thing.Henry Irving said:
the beardChizz said:
Is this you speaking, or Richard Murray?DOUCHER said:
do you really think there is any credibility left in this aussie thing??? i think airman and a load of others have either been double bluffed with all that or rd has just strung the aussies along - either way, they seem a bit of a joke to me now and hope for something other than them will eventually take overChizz said:
See what I mean about "gainsaying"?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources3 -
1871, Henry Morton Stanley finds missing explorer David Livingstone near Lake Tanganyika.0
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LB might be able to keep us up for a few seasons, but we WILL get relegated eventually if we have the lowest budget. It's such a shame that us staying with RD means that we are a L1 clubRedmidland said:Looking at all the comments on here and elsewhere, to me its becoming clear that a takeover is nowhere near being agreed, let alone completed. We seem to have gone back to arguing again about who knows what. RD is quite clearly not making anything easy for any buyer and perhaps now the only thing that may make him change is for every group/consortium/individual to just walk away and not play his games. The outcome would be that LB and co will have to manage on the lowest budget for the Championship, and hope they can finish no worse than 20th at the end of the season, I do fear we may however get relegated, but then that would mean, as previously said by @ShootersHillGuru, he loses more money the club's value falls again and we are back to square one. I just cant see RD selling up anytime soon, no matter what his 'employee' LVT says or indeed his 'stooge' Jim white. This is a sad and worrying state of affairs.
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You are going to be in trouble when we get to page 2020, better start polishing your crystal ballhappyvalley said:1871, Henry Morton Stanley finds missing explorer David Livingstone near Lake Tanganyika.
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agreed - back to the pool - love annoying brown noseShowmetheway2gohome said:Cor what’s up with everyone today arguing must be the heat.still passed time of day see you all again tomorrow.0 -
I heard that the "British" bid was from
Gavin Woodhouse and he has already passed the fit and proper test. Just awaiting the sale of one of his other business. You heard it here first folks. 💣💣💣💣
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I think linking Gavin Woodhouse just might have been a joke
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/04/gavin-woodhouse-loses-control-of-three-firms-after-judge-ruling
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Nope... Knowing our luck it probably was about to happen and we're one of those three businessesHenry Irving said:I think linking Gavin Woodhouse just might have been a joke
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/04/gavin-woodhouse-loses-control-of-three-firms-after-judge-ruling7 -
Said the man in the orthopaedic shoeStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources12 -
ThanksHenry Irving said:I think linking Gavin Woodhouse just might have been a joke
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/04/gavin-woodhouse-loses-control-of-three-firms-after-judge-ruling1 -
I dont know if I missed it but this was posted today: just old news?
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-chiefs-bid-buy-16530157?fbclid=IwAR1xX4PBw5RVtibJ9R9MDrvyr3Pkja2oFGLCCc_IWPJzSyejkTexaNg3akM
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Only got a 2 pound coinFerryman said:£55,000,000,001:-)0 -
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