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Erhun Oztumer (pg.24 on loan to Bristol Rovers)

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  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Didn’t you see?  He signed for us, done deal, due to be announced shortly, at the training ground, 4 weeks ago and then again 2 weeks ago.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Moo said:
    Apparently Bolton players can walk this week if not paid. According to Alan Nixon Sun 

    Bolton are due a Premier League payment on August 1. About 375k. That goes into the pot. Do they get paid to play this weekend? Would they play? They won’t get back pay until there’s a takeover. But if NOT paid those who put in notice can walk at end of week.

    Surely the administrators will ensure that contracted players are paid something as a priority to ensure they cannot just walk away.
    They need to be paid up to date (in full) to keep their contracts alive and Bolton don't have enough money to do this.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    Is he hanging around at Bolton in the hope of getting paid his outstanding monies? Surely he can claim whatever he’s owed even once he has left? 
  • Moo
    Moo Posts: 311
    se9addick said:
    Is he hanging around at Bolton in the hope of getting paid his outstanding monies? Surely he can claim whatever he’s owed even once he has left? 
    Think he is only allowed to leave this week. If Bolton go bust he won’t get anything. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited July 2019
    If Bolton are getting a Premier League payment of £345k and it is reported they owe one player £500k in unpaid wages, i'm not sure how he or any other player is going to get what is owed. I don't know, but I assume the club can't pay everybody it owes and if you want your money in full, you may need to be as high up the list as possible. Still being an employee of the club may put you higher up the list.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    edited July 2019
    Bowyer should nonchalantly ask Roland to cough up the unpaid £50k to speed up the transfer. The old bastard would probably have a seizure on the spot 😀. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    Moo said:
    se9addick said:
    Is he hanging around at Bolton in the hope of getting paid his outstanding monies? Surely he can claim whatever he’s owed even once he has left? 
    Think he is only allowed to leave this week. If Bolton go bust he won’t get anything. 
    A right, thanks, for some reason I thought a player could walk away if they hadn’t been paid for two weeks or more.
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,054
    To be fair to Oztumer would you leave one sinking (sunken) ship to go to a club with an owner like ours?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    southamptonaddick said:
    To be fair to Oztumer would you leave one sinking (sunken) ship to go to a club with an owner like ours?
    Yeah I would. RD is a whole heap of things - but he does pay the wages
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    SantaClaus said:
    Bowyer should nonchalantly ask Roland to cough up the unpaid £50k to speed up the transfer. The old bastard would probably have a seizure on the spot 😀. 
    £50,000 doesn’t even cover half of what Oztumer is owed by Bolton.
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  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,054
    Valley11 said:
    southamptonaddick said:
    To be fair to Oztumer would you leave one sinking (sunken) ship to go to a club with an owner like ours?
    Yeah I would. RD is a whole heap of things - but he does pay the wages
    At the moment. 
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Sage said:
    SantaClaus said:
    Bowyer should nonchalantly ask Roland to cough up the unpaid £50k to speed up the transfer. The old bastard would probably have a seizure on the spot 😀. 
    £50,000 doesn’t even cover half of what Oztumer is owed by Bolton.

    Great. Tell him that afterwards to finish him off. 
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    As others have said, this positoon seems like it could be legally challenged ie fpr the period he was owed money for he was a football creditor
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Yeah, don’t think in any other industry you could go 5 months without being paid and still made to work. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Problem for Erhun and Josh is the fact that if they cant leave the club before the window closes then they've surely got to stay @ Bolton until January

    After all no other club will be allowed to sign them as they'd have been contracted players when the window closed
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    But surely if they are not paid in full, the contract is void.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Problem for Erhun and Josh is the fact that if they cant leave the club before the window closes then they've surely got to stay @ Bolton until January

    After all no other club will be allowed to sign them as they'd have been contracted players when the window closed
    An excellent point, and one I assume they will be making.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    But surely if they are not paid in full, the contract is void.
    Well exactly, its bolton breaking the contract, not them.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Problem for Erhun and Josh is the fact that if they cant leave the club before the window closes then they've surely got to stay @ Bolton until January

    After all no other club will be allowed to sign them as they'd have been contracted players when the window closed
    I agree in theory but I think something will be done. There will be uproar if a precedent is set here that you can not get paid and be ‘blackmailed’ or forced into staying to get your money. 
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  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    edited July 2019
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  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    I hope his notice period expires before next week in which he moves he moves on and his pay dispute becomes a retrospective albeit ongoing matter. If it doesn’t, something will need to be done as this cannot surely be allowed to happen. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Employment and player registration two different things
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    edited July 2019
    If he gets his Bolton thing “sorted” eventually, presumably we can sign him up after the window has closed as a free agent?  Might get him just in time for Jonny’s first injury. 
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Henry Irving said:

    How is this legal???
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    edited July 2019
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Problem for Erhun and Josh is the fact that if they cant leave the club before the window closes then they've surely got to stay @ Bolton until January

    After all no other club will be allowed to sign them as they'd have been contracted players when the window closed
    I wonder if this would then be the next Bosman type "unfair football employment" case? Potentially I can see a challenge to the transfer window rules preventing Bolton players from playing for another club if Bolton hold on to their registrations until after August 8th
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    But surely if they are not paid in full, the contract is void.
    Employment contact, sure thing.

    Registration, no idea, would seem not.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    Sillybilly said:
    If he gets his Bolton thing “sorted” eventually, presumably we can sign him up after the window has closed as a free agent?  Might get him just in time for Jonny’s first injury. 
    You need to be a free agent when the window closes, if you're released after, tough luck.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Sillybilly said:
    If he gets his Bolton thing “sorted” eventually, presumably we can sign him up after the window has closed as a free agent?  Might get him just in time for Jonny’s first injury. 
    You need to be a free agent when the window closes, if you're released after, tough luck.
    Cheers. I hadn’t realised that. He’s basically stuffed then. Hope his lawyers sort something. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    Henry Irving said:

    Players will be well chuffed. 

    Not paid for 5 months, forced to stay, can't imagine they'll be giving their all come the first game of the season.

    Can they not just refuse to play until they're paid?

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