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Wigan v Charlton | Sat 21 Sept | 3pm KO | POST-MATCH THREAD

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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,658
    I'm worried by the lack of energy throughout the side. We couldn't match their tempo and it didn't feel like they got out of third gear.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Felt his groin after training?

    He shouldn't be too tired to play afterwards.


  • Poor stuff that one.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    The bubble has well and truly burst. Was expecting this result today so not too disappointed. Watch the lads beat Leeds next week to make up for this disappointment 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    Some advice on the game of football: 1. It's a team game, so it's good to pass the ball. Do try to remember though that not everyone is in your team. The opposition, their trainer, ball boys and St John's ambulance volunteers, don't play for Charlton so don't pass to them. 2. If you're not sure of your short passing options, a workable alternative may be to miss out the midfield and hoof long balls up the pitch. For this to work you should aim the ball at someone who is good enough to score on their own or hold the ball up for others. 3. Those players in blue hanging around in your box might get lonely. If you spot one, try standing next to him. 4. When they place the ball in the corner, take that as a sign they are going to cross the ball in an attempt to score. Don't stand rooted to the spot, try to get to the ball before they do. 5. At the other end of the pitch behind the man in the green jersey is a contraption called a goal. When you have a shot, it's so much more satisfying if you aim at this.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Oh, and thanks Monserratt.
    I'm trying not to be bitter about it as I'm sure Taylor gets great pride running out for them, but when your best player injures themselves playing in a pub league standard match it makes it very hard! 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Hopefully Bow is very honest and says it how it is. Seems like he had/will do.

    Next week a big one as Leeds are a very good side. With two defeats in a row now, I think a change in setting up could be needed, especially against the league leaders. I’d start with 5 in midfield and go from there, this is a game where the ball ought to be on the ground far more than not.

    Two defeats against sides we maybe could’ve expected to have got points from and that’s what hurts more. Losing Taylor is a blow beyond words as I genuinely don’t believe we would’ve lost both had he not been out.

    Need to learn quickly and that’s where Bow earns his salt in a way. We know he’s a fantastic manager already, but how he gets us to respond is key.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,769
    Birmingham fans complaining about Preston’s gamesmanship today has made me feel a little bit better.

    What goes around comes around.
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,680
    Sage said:
    Hopefully Bow is very honest and says it how it is. Seems like he had/will do.

    Next week a big one as Leeds are a very good side. With two defeats in a row now, I think a change in setting up could be needed, especially against the league leaders. I’d start with 5 in midfield and go from there, this is a game where the ball ought to be on the ground far more than not.

    Two defeats against sides we maybe could’ve expected to have got points from and that’s what hurts more. Losing Taylor is a blow beyond words as I genuinely don’t believe we would’ve lost both had he not been out.

    Need to learn quickly and that’s where Bow earns his salt in a way. We know he’s a fantastic manager already, but how he gets us to respond is key.
    Totally agree with you. 
    Hopefully he will have seen enough to know that Hemed and Leko  does not work as a partnership. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,629
    Oh, and thanks Monserratt.
    Do they not shoot either....??

    2 games, 0 goals.......with shots on target in both games coming well after the 60th minute. I dont give stuff what "expected goals" says....the more you shoot the more likely  you will score.
  • LouisMend said:
    Must've been very bad then seeing as we got smashed 3-0 at MK Dons in the cup last season.
  • Last time we were in the Championship, we started well under Peeters, went to Reading, won and promptly imploded. #justsaying
    Completely different, that season we started really well but slumped after our main striker got injured...
  • LouisMend said:
    Must've been very bad then seeing as we got smashed 3-0 at MK Dons in the cup last season.


    I definitely prefer Bow's crewnecks to Parkinson's v-necks.
  • Very disappointing performance. Yes we massively miss Lyle but today we were rubbish all over the park. Not a dig a Naby, but we missed Pearce today, we looked so vulnerable at the back today, not helped by Pratley going off as he was doing a lot of the dirty work today, with some vital blocks and challenges.

    Lockyer is a good defender, but he does need to improve his finishing as it’s a definite weakness. 2 of the chances he had should have been buried, or at least tested the keeper. 
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    I couldn't help but notice Bonne and Aneke have a disagreement at around 85 but missed the catalyst, any ideas? 
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    Did Dillon come out for the crosses from corners when they scored? Should he have done?
  • Crusty54 said:
    Did Dillon come out for the crosses from corners when they scored? Should he have done?
    No I'd say they were in the areas that should have been dealt with by the outfield players

    i.e. for the first Dunkley just manouvered two players out the way to get his shot away, his shot, not a header... Says it all
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Thought we were outplayed from one end of the pitch to the other. Lockyer was by far our best player.
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  • Shipped three in the last two matches
    ...my concern though is that we're now not finding the back of the net.

    Do Steve Gallen and Bows now need to be checking out potential out and out strikers in the Lyle mould ahead of the next window...perhaps they are already on the case.

    Alternatively, hope (against hope) that Lyle can be re-signed...probably a long shot, who knows.

    Itm, in Bows (JJ and Gallen) we trust...time for a re-set and rip back against the flow v Leeds on home turf...COYR!!!
  • Oggy Red said:

    Who was it who said, "Don't let the highs get too high. Or the lows too low"......?


    I think it was my window cleaner.
  • I was hoping we’d get something out of this game.... apart from getting beat!

    Think I’d take a point from our next two games, hope the boys can prove me wrong and Lee and Jacko can come up with a winning formula.
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051
    Reminds me a bit of our first Premiership season. Great start, ran into an ordinary but streetwise Derby team and lost 0-1 at home, went on a run of defeats.

    Powell's first Championship team also went on a poor run but finished 9th.

    I think Bowyer has the right attitude, and won't allow the players to get too low after a couple of defeats.  It's an unforgiving game if you can't take your chances, but these are still the same players who started so well. Taylor will be a miss, of course, but we do have other players capable. I think we'll be OK. 
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    We might have dropped out of the play offs , but we'll win against Leeds on Saturday !
    Hope you're right but can only see another defeat - we can't score.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited September 2019
    At the game:

    My third visit to the DW stadium and I still have yet to see us win there with two defeats and a draw to my name. It was a blue sky, warm, albeit breezy early autumnal day in Lancashire.

     Several changes saw Sarr, Oshilaja, Williams and Pratley in for Pearce, Solly, Oztumer and Field respectively. Usual diamond formation although we were off the pace early on and handed the initiative to the home side almost from the off. Any forays we managed down our left either came to nothing with Purrington either running the ball out of play or being dispossessed. This malaise seemed to creep through the team with Sarr and Pratley misplacing passes. The Latics seemed to open us up at will and how they never converted several balls across the face of our goal I don't know. Ironically that all important first goal came from a corner as Oshilaja was outmuscled by their larger CB who wrapped his foot around the cross and with no one on Phillips right hand post we went 1-0 down.

     Without testing their keeper in the first half Bowyer must have read the riot act as furthermore several of his players were not giving 100%. We started the second period much better and gave me hope that we would get back into the game. Alas this was not to be as shortly after Hemed was substituted on the hour Wigan scored their second yet again from a corner by the scorer of the first but this time he attacked the ball unchallenged at the far post.

     We kept going and Tom Lockyer who had defended resolutely had three glorious chance  to score and then to top it all he skied a longer range effort over the bar in the dying embers. Fair play to him for being in the right place which apart from one Bonne snapshot you can't say that of the rest of our forwards.

     A very disappointing performance for the circa 1000 travelling Addick's to witness who tried their best to spur their team on. Even more gutting is that we got sucker punched from two corners and failed to find the net from enough chances to have got at least a point from the game. Chucks impressed in his brief cameo and must be worthy of a start next time out.

  • Off_it said:
    Honeymoon over, tin hat time as the likely social media over reaction kicks in
    And bloody ridiculous it will be too, no doubt.

    People talking about promotion and the like. Ridiculous.
    Seriously ridiculous.

    Let's see where we are after 15 games, a good barometer.
  • Last time we were in the Championship, we started well under Peeters, went to Reading, won and promptly imploded. #justsaying
    Enter Guy Luzon?
  • Went to watch local team St Blazey win 7-1...
    Any pictures?
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    14 points down, 36 to go.

    114 points still to play for.