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Charlton v WBA | Sat 11 Jan | 15:00pm KO | Post-match Thread 11/01/2020

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  • Erm, did you leave early? 
    Pissed again 😂😂
  • edited January 2020
    Bit late to this but here are my main 3 thoughts.

    Adam Matthews  is absolutely  class. Decent runs, good at one on ones and his composure is incredible. I hope we can snap him up long term, he isn't a short term solution to right back imo, that's  his for the taking.

    Doughty  is going to be one heck of a player, his burst of pace is unreal at times and he is growing with confidence. Capable of playing every position down that left and makes the squad despite injuries, must get his contract on good terms to avoid a big club snapping him up.

    Lastly Lockyer, his contract is out next season and based on what I have seen of him we need to also get him on a proper contract, he could he our right sided CB for years to come, apart from the one mistake he made yesterday  (which he made up for) I thought  he had a fairly decent game. With the euros coming up and him having a spot in that Wales XI, he would only have to have a couple of decent games on that stage to get interest. I would make him club captain now and offer him a good contract with fair clauses, realty taken to him 

    Other than that everyone had a fairly decent game, big shout outs to Oshi for having a steady game and Naby for making the hero tackle when he was having a shaky game.

    Nice to sit in the north and feel a decent home atmosphere 
  • The ball was going in before the keeper touched it and went in after he touched it.

    Technically, the keeper saved the header by pushing it onto the post. With a slightly different angle it would have come out. It didn’t, it hit him and went in. Definite OG
  • Exactly this. The keeper had a chance to save it, he couldn't do this properly as the header was to good, and the ball found its way into the net. Lockyer's goal all day long for me. 
    That’s not actually true though, he did save the header. 
  • Calm down dear.

    Can tell you're a boring old fart who doent like it when the clapping gets too loud as it disturbs his nap. Ffs.

    I did offer to but he didn't want to. 

    Again it's most of the way back in the north upper ffs. I sat down way more than most people around me (who were standing all game) because of him. Certainly not a "random leaper" but if we are putting a ball in the box then 3 quarters of the ground are on their feet. He must have been only person in the covered end who wasnt at those moments.

     The bit about the west was tongue in cheek but if you're seriously bothered about not standing up at all for the entire game you can sit towards the front of the stand or the east. It's well known the back of the covered end is where the people who want to stand go.

    As for being in my own seat - I couldn't get my missus a seat next to mine today as thy had been sold so the ticket office kindly moved me across the aisle into the next block along and got her the seat next to me so we could sit together. Is that alright or do I need to ask your permission next time?
    First off I apologise for using the F word and I know it is inappropriate.

    I admit to be an old git, but not boring. My reaction was down to having a random leaper in front of me at the QPR game and I missed a lot. Tried to swap but he refused. Moved elsewhere second half.

    I happily sit near the front of covered end. My son has the seat next to me and buggers off to the back and stands - which is what he did yesterday. Plenty of room and the stairs are used as well. Possibility?

    Always difficult when it is a sell out for everyone to get the experience they want and just maybe he would have purchased a seat closer to the front if he had a choice. It is in these situations that we should try and be as considerate as possible to fellow fans. You offered to swap then fair enough. I take it all back.
  • I think my only criticism of yesterday brilliant performance is aimed at the covered end (sorry lads) they missed an absolutely brilliant opportunity to take the mick out of the baggies fans, it would have only taken a very minor change of words from you ain’t singing anymore (which I did hear on a few occasions) to you ain’t holding the ball anymore. Perhaps one for the future. Great atmosphere, great game, great result. Thought Davison was very good, and gave they defence a right old battle.
    I still think they missed a trick by not picking up my "You're just a rubbish Arugula" chant at Romaine Sawyers. 
  • I think, by the law, it's whether the ball was going in, regardless of whether it was touched, which the WBA goal and Bauer's at Wembley definitely were.
    Not sure their second was going in, it was a low shot that Phillips seemed to have covered until Naby's intervention which put it into the top of the net.


  • iaitch said:
    Not sure their second was going in, it was a low shot that Phillips seemed to have covered until Naby's intervention which put it into the top of the net.


    In whose interest is it for the goal to be given as an own goal?

    Lockyer - clearly not
    Their keeper - nope
    The EFL - irrelevant to them

    The only possible beneficiaries are the bookies who wont have to pay out (assuming there isnt an equivalent loss from punters that put money on their keeper scoring an own goal as the last goal) and even if they did benefit, it's not in their gift.

    Everyone can see that the goal would not have happened without the cross and the header. The fact that there was a small rebound should be irrelevant. To any sensible person this was and is Lockyer's goal. 

    If the dubious goals committee gives it as an OG, then they are, quite simply, arseholes (even if they are arseholes following the pedentry of arseholes)


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  • Redrobo said:
    First off I apologise for using the F word and I know it is inappropriate.

    I admit to be an old git, but not boring. My reaction was down to having a random leaper in front of me at the QPR game and I missed a lot. Tried to swap but he refused. Moved elsewhere second half.

    I happily sit near the front of covered end. My son has the seat next to me and buggers off to the back and stands - which is what he did yesterday. Plenty of room and the stairs are used as well. Possibility?

    Always difficult when it is a sell out for everyone to get the experience they want and just maybe he would have purchased a seat closer to the front if he had a choice. It is in these situations that we should try and be as considerate as possible to fellow fans. You offered to swap then fair enough. I take it all back.
    No worries. I probably overreacted a bit too. 

    Just a highly frustrating situation. He also had a seat either side he could have moved to so he wasnt directly behind me (or even further away after I swapped with my missus) but he chose not to. 

    Feel like it's well known that is where people want to stand. If you wanna sit then go further forward.
  • Enjoyable night at The Valley Dug deep as a team and got a well deserved point! Thank you for the warm welcome you were terrific today

  • Good Point Well done @Joshdavisonn on your goal bro Flames today ... We Move



  • Fighting spirit, Let’s keep it up , Atmosphere was unreal at The Valley #CAFC



  • The Valley is an all seater stadium. We do not have safe standing areas.  You seem to be blaming the guy who's view you were blocking, against club ticketing laws. You come across as an arrogant prick with a sense of entitlement.
    Lol okay dear
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  • Lol okay dear
    Verified and confirmed then.
  • Verified and confirmed then.
    'Right up' and 'own arse' are two phrases that spring to mind.
  • SDAddick said:
    I still think they missed a trick by not picking up my "You're just a rubbish Arugula" chant at Romaine Sawyers. 
    That’s because no one in the UK knows what arugula is, we call it rocket, so I’d thank you to keep your US cultural imperialism to yourself. 
  • 'Right up' and 'own arse' are two phrases that spring to mind.
    When you look in a mirror?
  • The ball was going in before the keeper touched it and went in after he touched it.
    This for me. If the keeper wasn't there it would have gone in. The keeper actually tipped it onto the post & it rebounded off the post, hit the keeper & went in. I dont think the ball was coming out again in any case.
  • When you look in a mirror?

    Happy New Year Canters :)

  • This for me. If the keeper wasn't there it would have gone in. The keeper actually tipped it onto the post & it rebounded off the post, hit the keeper & went in. I dont think the ball was coming out again in any case.
    But if the keeper tipped it onto the post, it come out and went in off a defender, it would be an OG. I can’t see how this is any different. 
  • I suppose the difference is whether you want to give the goal to Lockyer or not. I think if another player is involved it sort of changes things. But if a keeper gets a touch to a goalbound shot that goes in, it isn't considered an own goal so I son't think there is too much of a leap to say Lockyer's goal was his. If you desire to. 
  • But if the keeper tipped it onto the post, it come out and went in off a defender, it would be an OG. I can’t see how this is any different. 
    But did the ball "come out" once it hit the post. The keeper tried to save it.....got fingertips to it which pushed if onto the post. It then hit him & goes in. If it hadnt of hit him it might have gone in anyway. 

    An OG should be for players who either strike it directly (like Naby at Wembley) or if a shot is off target the ball hits them & goes in. Not if a ball strikes them on the way in. 
  • The Valley is an all seater stadium. We do not have safe standing areas.  You seem to be blaming the guy who's view you were blocking, against club ticketing laws. You come across as an arrogant prick with a sense of entitlement.
    Have you ever been? 
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