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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    stackitsteve said:
    Macclesfield have been docked 6 points, with a further 4 point deduction suspended.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50861229
    Looks like they may have not be allowed any fans into the ground for their game against Plymouth with the Safety Advisory Group serving a zero-capacity notice

    So once again, a club needs funds to pay the players wages (hence why they went on strike in the first place) yet wont be able to through one of their incomes
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    Poor that the Macclesfield games has been called off at such short notice, bet a number of Plymouth fans are already there
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    Saw this from Ryan Lowe the Plymouth manager



    Can any argyle fans with children who have made the trip to Macclesfield tonight get in touch with me, as me and my staff and the players have a special treat for you ?!💚
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    Although the clubs seem to be say different things which less than 15 hours before the game seems weird

    https://www.mtfc.co.uk/news/2019/december/20.12.19-plymouth-game-postponed/

     I am aware of press releases which suggest that tomorrow's game against Plymouth Argyle has been postponed.
     
    I would like to state that we have never asked the EFL to play the game behind closed doors and as far as I am are concerned, the game will be played as scheduled.



    For clarification, the unequivocal and categorical information that we have received from the @EFL is that tomorrow's scheduled @SkyBetLeagueTwo at @thesilkmen is OFF.

    And will remain off.

    #pafc



    Macclesfields last update was at 9PM at Plymouths at 9.30PM 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,816
    Hmm.....I would say that the EFL trump anything an individual club wants to do. The EFL schedule the fixtures & if they say its off....then its off.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,244
    Poor old Gritty is involved up there 
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    Ok so its gone 13.30 and Macclesfield still have not put on twitter or their club website a statement saying the game is off, in fact the last update on their site is the one from 9pm stating the game is on.

    Poor communication 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,579
    Macclesfield's home match with Grimsby on Boxing Day will go ahead as planned after safety issues were resolved.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50893266
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,322
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jan/31/bury-owner-steve-dale-fails-to-pay-money-to-creditors?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Bury in liquidation danger as owner Dale fails to pay any money to creditors

  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,579
    Any additional action by the English Football League to try to help save Bury FC "would not have made any difference to the eventual outcome", an independent review has concluded.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51665766

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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    Oldham in trouble now




    Oldham Athletic have tonight been served with a notice of application to the court to appoint administrators by Boundary Park landlords Brassbank Ltd.

    #oafc https://t.co/okfh6pHNWn

    Whats the point deduction for administration, Stevenage have been cast adrift recently could this save them from relegation 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,316
    paulie8290 said:
    Oldham in trouble now




    Oldham Athletic have tonight been served with a notice of application to the court to appoint administrators by Boundary Park landlords Brassbank Ltd.

    #oafc https://t.co/okfh6pHNWn

    Whats the point deduction for administration, Stevenage have been cast adrift recently could this save them from relegation 
    So the previous owners of Oldham, who did not sell the ground to the new owner have now called in the Administrators.  Hmmm
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Athletico Charlton said:
    paulie8290 said:
    Oldham in trouble now




    Oldham Athletic have tonight been served with a notice of application to the court to appoint administrators by Boundary Park landlords Brassbank Ltd.

    #oafc https://t.co/okfh6pHNWn

    Whats the point deduction for administration, Stevenage have been cast adrift recently could this save them from relegation 
    So the previous owners of Oldham, who did not sell the ground to the new owner have now called in the Administrators.  Hmmm
    Not sure how this has come as a surprise to anyone, it has been rotten for years. 
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    If/when the Coronavirus causes fans to reduce match attendance, or even worse, forces some matches to be played in front of empty stadiums, small clubs who rely mostly on matchday turnover.... could more fragile clubs find themselves in a terminal decline?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    Amazingly Oldham best Newport 5 nil today.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,090
    Even more amazingly Oldham have nearly completed a new stand (looking at yesterday's game).
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    Covered End said:
    Even more amazingly Oldham have nearly completed a new stand (looking at yesterday's game).
    The empty stand isn't a newly built one about to be opened, it actually opened 5 years ago but is currently bizarrely closed due to a safety issue

    A crazy situation, especially as it's the best stand in the ground and commercially the most important - imagine The Valley with the West Stand with all its lounges and hospitality areas shut?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,322
    edited May 2020
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52574839?__twitter_impression=true

    Ask not for whom the bell tolls,
    It tolls for you
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,816
    It's all gone rather quiet on the Derby & Sheff Wed fronts. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,780
    snowinberlin said:
    golfaddick said:
    paulie8290 said:
    Both clubs already on minus 12.

    Any poor teams in League 1 could get really lucky this season, lack of players and points deductions for Bolton and Bury mean chances are only 2 other teams will go down
    So have they not been given another 6 points deduction for failing to fulfill their last fixture of last season...??
    Jeez, do you slow down for car crashes?
    Golfie is a speed demon. He never slows down unless absolutely necessary.

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    The genuis that is the EFL think tank is well and truly at work again

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52898117

    Southend have been given a suspended points deduction (just three points) and a fine of £7,500 for late payment of wages

    Surely that sort of money would be better spent on actual wages at the moment? - Especially for a club of their size
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,322
    Shows that instant admin or points deduction for CAFC is very unlikely as a result of EFL punishment.
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    ForeverAddickted said:
    The genuis that is the EFL think tank is well and truly at work again

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52898117

    Southend have been given a suspended points deduction (just three points) and a fine of £7,500 for late payment of wages

    Surely that sort of money would be better spent on actual wages at the moment? - Especially for a club of their size
    That's just ludicrous considering the situation and potential financial fall out of clubs. 

    I wonder when this late payment occurred. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    EricBanterna said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    The genuis that is the EFL think tank is well and truly at work again

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52898117

    Southend have been given a suspended points deduction (just three points) and a fine of £7,500 for late payment of wages

    Surely that sort of money would be better spent on actual wages at the moment? - Especially for a club of their size
    That's just ludicrous considering the situation and potential financial fall out of clubs. 

    I wonder when this late payment occurred. 
    Someone on the twitter link said it dated back to December

    You'd have thought that the sensible option would be a suspended fine too, especially in the current climate
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Henry Irving said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52574839?__twitter_impression=true

    Ask not for whom the bell tolls,
    It tolls for you
    I was under the impression there would be no relegation from League Two. Points deduction seems liked a wasted punishment. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    PopIcon said:
    Henry Irving said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52574839?__twitter_impression=true

    Ask not for whom the bell tolls,
    It tolls for you
    I was under the impression there would be no relegation from League Two. Points deduction seems liked a wasted punishment. 
    I think there will be relegation from League Two because Championship | League One clubs dont like the idea of no relegation from one league yet from others

    Its baffling as the EFL is already missing a team so simply leave Stevenage in the Division and promote Barrow (if the National League agrees), its not bloody difficult
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,934
    PopIcon said:
    Henry Irving said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52574839?__twitter_impression=true

    Ask not for whom the bell tolls,
    It tolls for you
    I was under the impression there would be no relegation from League Two. Points deduction seems liked a wasted punishment. 
    A points deduction would have been wasted on Southend anyway as they were all but relegated - making it suspended does them more harm to the club than an actual deduction. Perhaps that the reason for doing so.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    The EFL is one club down at the moment anyway, so presumably cancelling relegation from L2 and promoting 1 club from the NL would work

    Or just relegating Stevenage and promoting 1
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    edited June 2020
    killerandflash said:
    The EFL is one club down at the moment anyway, so presumably cancelling relegation from L2 and promoting 1 club from the NL would work

    Or just relegating Stevenage and promoting 1
    Doesnt that leave the EFL a club short still?

    Or did you mean to say promote two
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    edited June 2020
    If Macclesfield get done again(think I saw  they were facing another charge)and there are no more games, think they will go down and not Stevenage.

    There last points deduction I think 2 points were suspended

    So that would be added to any further points deduction, and they would surely go below Stevenage 

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