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Is Covid-19 caused by 5G mobile phone masts?

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  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,647
    Not Finding this off the wall,stuff remotely funny guys 🥺
    This is better for us oldies
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    I agree with that.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,647
    I agree with that.
    Nice to have you back.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Morgan is back
    Morgan is back
    Allo
    Allo
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    edited April 2020
    Having watched David Icke since he thought he was a Godhead, and enjoy observing and taking notes on his personality, But he has gone too far now:

    I have seen a YouTube video where David Icke, said Homo Sapiens are first cousins to Chimpanzes



    He hasn't gone too far. He is mad and if people can't see that they need help. If the Royal family are lizards, how does he explain Prince Charles' ears?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

  • Having watched David Icke since he thought he was a Godhead, and enjoy observing and taking notes on his personality, But he has gone too far now:

    I have seen a YouTube video where David Icke, said Homo Sapiens are first cousins to Chimpanzes



    He hasn't gone too far. He is mad and if people can't see that they need help. If the Royal family are lizards, how does he explain Prince Charles' ears?
    To be fair I don’t think anyone could explain Prince Charles’ ears.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    seth plum said:

    Oh bugger!
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    I sure computers are the source of the problem. When I left school only banks and large employers had computers, absolutely too expensive for the average idiot and even the above average rich idiot didn't have room for a computer. So idiots tended to keep themselves to themselves and were largely ignored. Nowadays a phone is as good as having a computer and the average idiot has become an expert on all things clever because he/she can be guided through an account setup. Most of us know we are clever enough to know we are not so clever but an idiot cannot admit this.
    Strangely, this is a thing. It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect.  In a nutshell, thick people don't know they are thick.  Whereas those with a decent intellect are always questioning their abilities.


  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,365
    cafcfan said:
    I sure computers are the source of the problem. When I left school only banks and large employers had computers, absolutely too expensive for the average idiot and even the above average rich idiot didn't have room for a computer. So idiots tended to keep themselves to themselves and were largely ignored. Nowadays a phone is as good as having a computer and the average idiot has become an expert on all things clever because he/she can be guided through an account setup. Most of us know we are clever enough to know we are not so clever but an idiot cannot admit this.
    Strangely, this is a thing. It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect.  In a nutshell, thick people don't know they are thick.  Whereas those with a decent intellect are always questioning their abilities.


    That’s made my day. I shall quote Dunning-Kruger effect the next time my wife questions my abilities.
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Having watched David Icke since he thought he was a Godhead, and enjoy observing and taking notes on his personality, But he has gone too far now:

    I have seen a YouTube video where David Icke, said Homo Sapiens are first cousins to Chimpanzes



    When we all know they are first cousins to Millwall fans.

    I'm a first cousin to Millwall fans ! ( Bermondsey born)  
    Do you know there's a piano on my foot.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    I agree with that.
    Nice to have you back.
    Best thing I’ve seen all day 😁
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Not gonna share it, but the same Doris on my Facebook from last night has now shared something saying that the image of a lad who passed away recently from C-19 has been used before in 2017 for a lad, different name, who passed away.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    edited April 2020
    cafcfan said:
    I sure computers are the source of the problem. When I left school only banks and large employers had computers, absolutely too expensive for the average idiot and even the above average rich idiot didn't have room for a computer. So idiots tended to keep themselves to themselves and were largely ignored. Nowadays a phone is as good as having a computer and the average idiot has become an expert on all things clever because he/she can be guided through an account setup. Most of us know we are clever enough to know we are not so clever but an idiot cannot admit this.
    Strangely, this is a thing. It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect.  In a nutshell, thick people don't know they are thick.  Whereas those with a decent intellect are always questioning their abilities.


    Yep - and the opposite is called 'Imposter Syndrome' - I've suffered from that in my career before when I know I'm right about something but agonise about it for hours before implementing it because I'm convinced I'm going to fuck it up...

    Here's a great list of all the cognitive biases (of which DK is one) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
  • The 5G conspiracy theories are mental - although we had the same thing on 4G to a lesser extent.

    5G is absolutely no different to any other mobile technology - except for the fact that it uses spectrum more efficiently than in previous generations of technology (4G-LTE, 3G-WCDMA and so on).

    That's pretty much it, if the operators deploy 5G on the same spectrum that they deliver 4G on - and in the UK that is 800Mhz, 1400MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz, 2300MHz and 2600MHz then you won't actually see much difference.

    Yes, you will get faster speeds but the network is essentially the same as a 4G network.

    The big difference on 5G is not so much the technology of 5G itself but the spectrum bands that the technology operates in - because these bands generally offer more capacity in them - which means you can deliver higher speeds to more end-users.

    So, in the UK, you are initially using 2300MHz and 3400MHz spectrum - although 700MHz will also be used too as will spectrum in the 3600MHz to 3800MHz range.

    However - although you DO get more spectrum availability (think of a bigger tunnel than can take more cars) in these higher spectrum ranges there is a price to pay for that.

    Once you get above 2500MHz then you tend to get substantially poorer 'propagation' meaning the radio signal may not be able to penetrate the walls of buildings - not good when you are delivering a voice and data service.

    So, that means that the end-user needs to install an external antennae to successfully receive the 5G signal - you have seen strong evidence of this from the 5G service delivered by '3' where many end-users have complained about signals dropping out.

    In addition, the higher the spectrum range you are using then the shorter distance you can actually transmit the signal - that means that you need to build a much larger number of base-stations (normally linked with fibre) to actually serve the end-users.

    So, in essence, there is nothing new about 5G really, it just means that you are using updated radio technology (simply more efficient software) and accessing it on a mobile network that has slightly different topography than a 3G/4G network.

    If that doesn't convince you then please reflect on the fact that right now in the world there are roughly 2 billion homes connected to fixed-broadband and that 99% of these have Wi-Fi enabled modems that are using 2400MHz spectrum.....which is unlicensed spectrum but pretty much the same stuff that will be used for 5G anyway....so, if there were health problems on 5G then we'd all be dead by now anyway.....

  • superdec
    superdec Posts: 32
    i dont even get whats going on at charlton.. now are some people telling me someone eat a half dead bat under a 5g mobile tower when it was thunder and lightening wearing a borat suit ...wtf   i can barely get 4g on my phone ..but that was sold to me when i had 2g and unlimited data but i that had better connection to roaming than my 4g .. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    So @Ormiston_Addick is part of the cover up, that’s him and Carter we’ve outed.

    Top thread Chizz.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited April 2020
    Is COVID-19 caused by 5g mobile phone masks ?
    No

    Does COVID-19 make people ask a myriad of bizarre questions ?
    Yes
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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Phone masks?

    Two birds, one stone.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Conspiracy theories give people explanations and someone to blame.

    The universe is chaos, there is no simple explanation, things happen, there is no one person or power in control of it.

    But some people struggle with that.

    So they buy into conspiracy theories which give them certainty, explain the unexplainable.

    Covid19 is horrible, it's scary and it just "happened" (yes, it has a cause which science will explain), it's hard to explain why.

    So blaming 5g is easy. 5g is new, it's man made, it's "foreign" and it's appearing at the same time as Covid19 so obviously the two are connected. 

    That's what conspiracy theories are for: to give certainty in an uncertain world and dismiss any cognitive dissonance.

    They are mostly harmless but then people attack telecoms workers or don't vaccinate their children or believe the Sandy hook elementary school shooting was faked and then it's not so harmless any more.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Wait till 6g comes out.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,054
    Carter said:
    Oh and one of these anti 5G cretins stabbed an Openreach engineer yesterday in Kilburn for doing his job. Engineer in hospital with life changing injuries so maybe 5G isn't the most dangerous component to this moronic argument. 


    Hadn’t seen this until I opened this thread this morning.  My nephew’s an Open Reach engineer, so I gave him a call to check up on him.  His team had been briefed on this attack. The lad was stabbed in the legs apparently.  They’re not going into people’s homes at the moment, just working outside.  He was more upset that one of their team had passed away from Covid-19. 

    Oh, and Open Reach invoked mandatory weekend work. No overtime, no choice. should be on bloody danger money with the freakin’ space cadets out there!
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Same woman as above on my Facebook "Been saying this for 2 weeks!!" -




  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,980
    Hahaha that’s gotta be a parody 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Bollocks to a message from Beyonce, it's Shay Given I'm waiting for.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    seth plum said:
    Bollocks to a message from Beyonce, it's Shay Given I'm waiting for.

    Shay Given saves, Beyonce knocks in the rebound.
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,927
    Is COVID-19 caused by 5g mobile phone masks ?
    I don't know.
    Nobody does.
    I hope not.
    If I were guessing, probably not.
    But if further down the line we find out that there was indeed a government plot, then we will feel somewhat stupid for not listening to the whistle blowers, instead of dissing them for being bonkers.