Just been contacted by one of our fans who tells me the games console is on it's way back to The Valley.Seems organisers did own investigation & came up with the goods. Fair play to them, they were upset that this happened in 1st place. Note the console was never in the boardroom
Which just backs up the point that this could of been done without a club statement going out to the media.
Shock, CAFC get it wrong again.
Seriously, they had better put out another statement saying the games console was returned and hopefully the drink paid for if it has been. Probably too late though, Farnell & Elliot will likely be all over it.
RESPECT to all who attended--sorry I was not there.Everyone needs to chill .We are Very fortunate to have so Many fans who care for this Great club.In no small way they have got us more national coverage and Highlighted what these SCUMBAGS are trying to do to our club.Lets please stay united through these troubled times and hope that TS can get the deal over the line.Live Love Laugh and Be Happy
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
Don’t worry, we’ve had plenty of shit on the pitch over the years.
A further post on Twitter saying the drinks consumed will be paid for. What a surprise. Within a few hours, commitment to make amends for some OTT/out of order behaviour and balance the books. In the meantime, the SMT choose to ignore years of internal criminality and negligence and jump at any opportunity to go public on the fans to divide us even further.
Interesting that people on here quickly jump on our supporters about their behaviour today. The console was brought back unlike the range rovers, they pissed in the sink but our so called owners have literally pissed all over us,. Those in the board room today have spent thousands on supporting Charlton over the years (I know I have) unlike those who spent one pound on buying the club and yet the statement put out, which doesn't appear on the official website, fails to mention when all the money taken out of the club, whilst we are close to extinction, will be paid back. Not saying what happened today was right but ffs get s grip on what is actually happening to our club.
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
The damage was elsewhere, unfortunately, including a press backdrop and an exit gate. To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere. For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
The damage was elsewhere, unfortunately, including a press backdrop and an exit gate. To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere. For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
The damage was elsewhere, unfortunately, including a press backdrop and an exit gate. To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere. For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
What was the champagne doing there?
There are various bars and lounges around the West Stand which have stocked bars for hospitality on matchdays. Plenty of stock is still behind those bars from before lockdown.
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
The damage was elsewhere, unfortunately, including a press backdrop and an exit gate. To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere. For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
What was the champagne doing there?
There are various bars and lounges around the West Stand which have stocked bars for hospitality on matchdays. Plenty of stock is still behind those bars from before lockdown.
I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together. The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves. We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Can you ask the SMT how them not refunding me a booking fee for Hull and Cardiff away tickets is an "action" any worse than passionate committed fans having a glass of wine in the boardroom of THEIR club? These fans being the ones who are giving up time fighting for the future existence of the club for everyone.
Moreover, can you explain how I had purchased x1 adult season ticket and x2 kids season tickets all on the same credit card last season (and also had about 750 loyalty points for away game purchases) but was not allocated sufficient CAFC "cash" to stream all the remaining games of the season during the pandemic?
I think the PlayStation was in the players lounge for the players kids to use.
Regardless, it's scummy to nick it or bottles of champagne. Nothing to do with protests, just like pissing in sinks.
There's no debate that Southall and Amis have nicked a lot more but that doesn't justify nicking booze.. There are toilets just outside the board room for fucks sake.
Just a massive downer on what should have been a good day.
Spent the afternoon counting the £1 coins and then got told Thomas Sandgaard was matching the amount raised. Fantastic and what we should be about, not petty larceny.
I'm in no way defending those who stole drinks. Had they popped open a bottle of fizz to celebrate 'taking the boardroom' I would have had a glass. The guys I saw taking liberties with booze were young and tried to justify by saying the owners has stolen from the club. It probably didn't occur to them at the time that the club is not Nimer or Southall and that this tab would have to be picked up sometime.
The toilets were all locked, as were the changing rooms. I personally find pissing in the sink massively disrespectful, its inconsiderate as some poor sod has to clean it up. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I didn't see it. Whoever stole the games console should return it posthaste, really poor form.
Superb work with the piper and all the dosh raised. The chap who spoke on behalf of CARD was very good and hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel.
In any direct protest, there will be some elements of collateral damage.
If the club is able to tell us as fans what is owed through actions that we wouldn’t all have done but should be remedied, I will guarantee to sort out giving the club back twice that and to give the same amount split between CACT and the upbeats.
I hope it is nit a lot, and I hope I don’t have to pay it all myself but I will if needed.
the protest was good and this negative impression that some have that is coming out of it needs batting away for the diversion it is.
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
The damage was elsewhere, unfortunately, including a press backdrop and an exit gate. To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere. For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
What was the champagne doing there?
There are various bars and lounges around the West Stand which have stocked bars for hospitality on matchdays. Plenty of stock is still behind those bars from before lockdown.
Theft is theft and needs Dealing with and if true urinating in sinks is disgusting made the day end on a very sour note
Particularly if they'd eaten asparagus beforehand
So will the SMT be putting out another media blast to say the PS4 has been returned and the drink taken has been paid for. All sorted by the organisers? Only fair really
I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together. The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves. We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Perhaps if they had piped up whilst the club has been torn apart the past few years days like today would not have happened. Don't lecture proper fans whilst you have have sat there silent and pumping out the pro ownership stuff whilst rome burned.
I would accept that tweet today if @cafcofficial had not sat by idley whilst people were ripping off the club but easy to give fans a kicking isn't it whilst staying silent on the real wronguns.
Shameful.
No one is lecturing 'proper' fans, that's kind of the point. There's nothing proper about stealing from the club you support. As I explained, I understand this a hugely sensitive subject and it's not my individual call to provide the statement, but I did my best to help strike the balance. If you and others feel we got it wrong, then that's fair enough and I obviously respect you and Airman Brown's opinion on the matter. But I assure you, we're not trying to undermine anything done by the fans. As always, we're just trying our best in a shitty and stressful situation.
I'm just catching up on this, but Olly that is total bollocks. If you wanted to strike a balance you'd put a short but sweet statement on the website saying that today protests were for the most-part peaceful, but you are looking into wrong-doings by a few individuals and make contact with the organisers. Going straight to the press is totally underhand and embarrassing, Ive said all along that I thought Marian was one of the good guys in this and caught up in this mess, but I guess this has also been signed off/written by him. I totally condemn the idiots that have done this, but whoever advised this should have gone straight to the press should be sacked on the spot, my money is on Keohane.
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
The damage was elsewhere, unfortunately, including a press backdrop and an exit gate. To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere. For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
What was the champagne doing there?
There are various bars and lounges around the West Stand which have stocked bars for hospitality on matchdays. Plenty of stock is still behind those bars from before lockdown.
So it will be paid for what’s your problem, look at the bigger picture you may be out of a job if we don’t get these tossers out !!!
I think the PlayStation was in the players lounge for the players kids to use.
Regardless, it's scummy to nick it or bottles of champagne. Nothing to do with protests, just like pissing in sinks.
There's no debate that Southall and Amis have nicked a lot more but that doesn't justify nicking booze.. There are toilets just outside the board room for fucks sake.
Just a massive downer on what should have been a good day.
Spent the afternoon counting the £1 coins and then got told Thomas Sandgaard was matching the amount raised. Fantastic and what we should be about, not petty larceny.
I'm in no way defending those who stole drinks. Had they popped open a bottle of fizz to celebrate 'taking the boardroom' I would have had a glass. The guys I saw taking liberties with booze were young and tried to justify by saying the owners has stolen from the club. It probably didn't occur to them at the time that the club is not Nimer or Southall and that this tab would have to be picked up sometime.
The toilets were all locked, as were the changing rooms. I personally find pissing in the sink massively disrespectful, its inconsiderate as some poor sod has to clean it up. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I didn't see it. Whoever stole the games console should return it posthaste, really poor form.
Superb work with the piper and all the dosh raised. The chap who spoke on behalf of CARD was very good and hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel.
COYR.
If the toilets were locked it would explain why someone pissed in the sink.
FFS....when I made my earlier comments I didn't realise this was an actual media statement supplied for national media consumption. Thought it was just a club official tweet which in itself would have been bad enough. But to go to the national press to undermine legitimate protests?!
Absolute disgraceful...hang your heads in shame all of you involved in that. You have willingly done that.
There's taking no action and not speaking out and then there is being instrumental in undermining the good intentioned actions of Charlton fans for the very purpose of undermining them and furthering the agenda of those being protested at.
I know you probably can't say @Ollywozere but who came up with that statement ?
The comms team alongside the SMT. We spent a lot of time deliberating over it as it's an extremely sensitive subject. It's no secret that the staff generally are supportive of the fans and the planned protest today which I want to emphasise and we're desperate not to give any impression of an 'us against them' scenario as we are all in it together. The actions of certain individuals shouldn't take away from the overall message of the protest, but some of the stuff was clearly unacceptable and only risks undermining that message. It does no damage to the likes of Elliott or Farnell, the only damage it does is to the staff that have to deal with it and to the reputations of those individuals themselves. We wanted to strike that balance in the statement provided to media and I hope that's understandable to most. We don't want anyone to think there's any criticism of today's protest in general.
Perhaps if they had piped up whilst the club has been torn apart the past few years days like today would not have happened. Don't lecture proper fans whilst you have have sat there silent and pumping out the pro ownership stuff whilst rome burned.
I would accept that tweet today if @cafcofficial had not sat by idley whilst people were ripping off the club but easy to give fans a kicking isn't it whilst staying silent on the real wronguns.
Shameful.
No one is lecturing 'proper' fans, that's kind of the point. There's nothing proper about stealing from the club you support. As I explained, I understand this a hugely sensitive subject and it's not my individual call to provide the statement, but I did my best to help strike the balance. If you and others feel we got it wrong, then that's fair enough and I obviously respect you and Airman Brown's opinion on the matter. But I assure you, we're not trying to undermine anything done by the fans. As always, we're just trying our best in a shitty and stressful situation.
I'm just catching up on this, but Olly that is total bollocks. If you wanted to strike a balance you'd put a short but sweet statement on the website saying that today protests were for the most-part peaceful, but you are looking into wrong-doings by a few individuals and make contact with the organisers. Going straight to the press is totally underhand and embarrassing, Ive said all along that I thought Marian was one of the good guys in this and caught up in this mess, but I guess this has also been signed off/written by him. I totally condemn the idiots that have done this, but whoever advised this should have gone straight to the press should be sacked on the spot, my money is on Keohane.
A bad judgement call against the fans is most likely to be Keohane. I wouldn't be surprised if the comms team watered down what he wanted. Let's hope he's on his way soon.
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
The damage was elsewhere, unfortunately, including a press backdrop and an exit gate. To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere. For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
Thanks Olly, I was 99% certain no one went on the pitch. They could have, there were no staff there (understandably), but not one person did.
I'm logging off, fed up with these lies. It's bad enough from Southall, Nimer, Farnell & Elliot, but when your own fans are trying to discredit you it's gutting.
I would have thought that areas like the players lounge would have been locked, the staff were aware what the plans were and should have made sure that sensitive areas were made out of bounds.
The damage referred to is people going on the pitch, which the ground staff specifically asked people not to do. With such a short amount of time till the start of the season it can damage the surface, now it wasn’t a huge amount of traffic but even still.
The damage was elsewhere, unfortunately, including a press backdrop and an exit gate. To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere. For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
Hi Olly. One of the organisers has told me that he left more than £100 in the boardroom to cover damages, and he and one other of that group left their names with staff. Could you ask whoever wrote that statement to confirm that the money picked up has been properly accounted for by the Club?
I will personally ask Mr Mihail to investigate that too, while gently reminding him that when he did his “diploma in English Law” he probably came up quite early on the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”.
@Bedsaddick I’m done with rowing today but it was by someone who was there. And now the club are going to review footage and probably seek penalties for those who were peacefully protesting inside the ground, a few bad pennies have ruined it for all. The plight is lost.
Think you're being a bit OTT mate.
What the last collection of shitbags in the boardroom in an official capacity have been doing the past few years is well beyond anything that has gone on today.
Keep the fanbase united. Don't let the fuckers divide and rule.
You've taken a hammering on here today mate and no need for it as we all need to pull together not attack each other. Don't agree with your views on the whole situation today but don't think fans should be rowing amongst ourselves.
These northern monkeys and the drips that cling onto them for whatever reason will be doing everything they can to cause ructions within the fanbase to undermine the protests. Same as when the CARD protests caused rifts in the fanbase.
Better of united whilst the real enemies are still around and then once we have a half normal ownership and the actual football is the main concern we can all go back to our little tiffs but until then we should show a united front against those who will do far more harm to our club than anyone there today would in a million years regardless of whether it's poor form or not.
And fuck whoever wrote that official statement....get off your high horse and pipe up about the damage done to our club by your paymasters you utter c***s.
Patronising wankers.
As per Olly's comment it was a combined statement from both the Comms team and Senior Management Team
Trouble is if someone has pissed in a sink etc. its not going to be Farnell / Elliott cleaning up is it?
Put it out to the fan base. Give the perpetrators the opportunity to return anonymously the games console and perhaps some fans would give their time to come clean up others mess.
Don’t just risk the whole movement by grassing straight up to the media.
Fucking wanky decision but not surprising as it’s been made by people working for club. They’ve been doing it the last 8 years.
Don't understand what there is to gain by throwing this to the media. Who are the Senior Management Team anyway ? Somebody with an agenda has pushed this no doubt
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Probably too late though, Farnell & Elliot will likely be all over it.
To be fair to those in the boardroom, it seems most of the damage and theft occurred elsewhere. Those in the boardroom have offered to pay for what they had, but a decent amount was taken from elsewhere.
For example, someone helped themselves to a fair amount of champagne, dropping and smashing some of them as they made off (Yohann Thuram levels of handling!)
Moreover, can you explain how I had purchased x1 adult season ticket and x2 kids season tickets all on the same credit card last season (and also had about 750 loyalty points for away game purchases) but was not allocated sufficient CAFC "cash" to stream all the remaining games of the season during the pandemic?
Very much directed at the "SMT", not Olly etc.
The guys I saw taking liberties with booze were young and tried to justify by saying the owners has stolen from the club.
It probably didn't occur to them at the time that the club is not Nimer or Southall and that this tab would have to be picked up sometime.
The toilets were all locked, as were the changing rooms. I personally find pissing in the sink massively disrespectful, its inconsiderate as some poor sod has to clean it up. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I didn't see it.
Whoever stole the games console should return it posthaste, really poor form.
Superb work with the piper and all the dosh raised.
The chap who spoke on behalf of CARD was very good and hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel.
COYR.
If the club is able to tell us as fans what is owed through actions that we wouldn’t all have done but should be remedied, I will guarantee to sort out giving the club back twice that and to give the same amount split between CACT and the upbeats.
the protest was good and this negative impression that some have that is coming out of it needs batting away for the diversion it is.
Absolute disgraceful...hang your heads in shame all of you involved in that. You have willingly done that.
There's taking no action and not speaking out and then there is being instrumental in undermining the good intentioned actions of Charlton fans for the very purpose of undermining them and furthering the agenda of those being protested at.
"Just doing my job". Bollocks.
Spineless.
I wouldn't be surprised if the comms team watered down what he wanted.
Let's hope he's on his way soon.
If you had a choice between pissing on the floor or in a sink into mains drainage, anyone who knew anything about anything would go in the sink.
better not to have a dedicated toilet available but surely sink is next best option?!
The hype on that is someone with no cards to play imo
They could have, there were no staff there (understandably), but not one person did.
I'm logging off, fed up with these lies.
It's bad enough from Southall, Nimer, Farnell & Elliot, but when your own fans are trying to discredit you it's gutting.
I will personally ask Mr Mihail to investigate that too, while gently reminding him that when he did his “diploma in English Law” he probably came up quite early on the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”.