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ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)

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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,735
    edited September 2020
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Maybe the reality is that Cawley just doesn't have any clout in the industry.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,735
    killerandflash said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    Unfair

    Cawley has provided masses of useful information and analysis. 

    He's clearly on our side, but at the end of the day he's a news reporter, and has to report the story. He's not writing a blog or fanzine where it's obvious you're getting a partisan view
    It probably is unfair but it’s the feeling I get from him . 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,992
    edited September 2020
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    Sorry but you are totally out of order.
    This is disrespectful bollocks and you should retract it.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    I reckon that’s bollocks and yes, out of order unless you can back it up with something other than “a feeling”. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,735
    Covered End said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    Sorry but that is disrespectful bollocks and you should retract it.
    erm no . It's my opinion and i stick by it sweetheart . 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,992
    edited September 2020
    Covered End said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    Sorry but you are totally out of order.
    This is disrespectful bollocks and you should retract it.
    And it's not funny either. 
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    The only reason that it appears Cawley likes seeing us suffer is because the basket case of an ownership we have gives him so much material to work with. I'm sure he'll be as delighted as anyone when it's ove
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,735
    edited September 2020
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    I reckon that’s bollocks and yes, out of order unless you can back it up with something other than “a feeling”. 
    It a feeling not a fact . How do you back up a feeling?? Wow. so feelings and opinions are not allowed now on CL ? If you disagree fine , just say why but i'm not having people tell me to retract a post or back it up. Bollocks to you. 
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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    He's a journo, he gets a story he runs it.

    If he didn't I'd have a massive amount of disrespect for him, it's his job, there's already far too many high profile journalists and news outlets that act as opinion pieces rather than news pieces. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Bedsaddick said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    I reckon that’s bollocks and yes, out of order unless you can back it up with something other than “a feeling”. 
    It a feeling not a fact . How do you back up a feeling?? Wow. so feelings and opinions are not allowed now on CL ? If you disagree fine , just say why but i'm not having people tell me to retract a post or back it up. Bollocks to you. 
    Feelings are easy to back up, there must be something that’s made you form that opinion or feeling? You even said it may be unfair but now just getting all defensive.

    Dont think anyone has said you can’t have an opinion, but it your going to publicly criticise someone it’s not fair to have anything at all to back it up, 
  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,097
    Bedsaddick said:
    Covered End said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    Sorry but that is disrespectful bollocks and you should retract it.
    erm no . It's my opinion and i stick by it sweetheart . 
    Makes no sense what you saying and not even relevant. Always one or on here quite a few ones. Slow 
  • RichmondSE10Exile
    RichmondSE10Exile Posts: 641
    Hate to add to the burgeoning overflow of posts but Richard Cawley is not the problem. He has already said SLP will happily print any reply from either an official source or a fan-driven source.

    The letter from PE is full of holes. A non-threatening response could easily be drafted that responds to his points and mentions the inconsistency between his assertions in the letter and those made in court by either ESI 2 or their barrister.

    if we get that published we can all use our non-bogus twitter accounts to like and retweet it.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,992
    Apologies readers.
    It's one of my personality traits, not suffering fools gladly or perhaps foolish comments.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
  • ro_addick
    ro_addick Posts: 285
    killerandflash said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    I might be out of order saying this but I have a feeling Cawley enjoys seeing us suffer . 
    Unfair

    Cawley has provided masses of useful information and analysis. 

    He's clearly on our side, but at the end of the day he's a news reporter, and has to report the story. He's not writing a blog or fanzine where it's obvious you're getting a partisan view
    Quite right.
  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,749
    mendonca said:
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
    it did cross my mind though, that could one group who had failed the EFL test be critical of another who had done the same ?
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    Lauren doesn't seem overly bothered

  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    mendonca said:
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
    That concerned me. I’ve no basis on this, purely my thoughts, but MM cocking up like that could of seriously dented our case. Are we sure he’s on ‘our’ side? 

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    carly burn said:
    Lauren doesn't seem overly bothered

    Or she's doing the smart thing and keeping schtum until required.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    ozaddick said:
    mendonca said:
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
    That concerned me. I’ve no basis on this, purely my thoughts, but MM cocking up like that could of seriously dented our case. Are we sure he’s on ‘our’ side? 
    Not ours, but Nimer's and for me that says he wants PM to win so TN gets a payday from TS.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    Dazzler21 said:
    ozaddick said:
    mendonca said:
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
    That concerned me. I’ve no basis on this, purely my thoughts, but MM cocking up like that could of seriously dented our case. Are we sure he’s on ‘our’ side? 
    Not ours, but Nimer's and for me that says he wants PM to win so TN gets a payday from TS.
    Ok thanks mate. 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    Dazzler21 said:
    carly burn said:
    Lauren doesn't seem overly bothered

    Or she's doing the smart thing and keeping schtum until required.
    On Tuesday Lauren had her 'professional' head on.

    Today she's wearing her 'fan' head.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    To be honest, if this is their master plan to win the appeal it is pretty pathetic.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    Dazzler21 said:
    ozaddick said:
    mendonca said:
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
    That concerned me. I’ve no basis on this, purely my thoughts, but MM cocking up like that could of seriously dented our case. Are we sure he’s on ‘our’ side? 
    Not ours, but Nimer's and for me that says he wants PM to win so TN gets a payday from TS.
     Who's PM?
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    carly burn said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    ozaddick said:
    mendonca said:
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
    That concerned me. I’ve no basis on this, purely my thoughts, but MM cocking up like that could of seriously dented our case. Are we sure he’s on ‘our’ side? 
    Not ours, but Nimer's and for me that says he wants PM to win so TN gets a payday from TS.
     Who's PM?
    Panorama Magic 
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    carly burn said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    ozaddick said:
    mendonca said:
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
    That concerned me. I’ve no basis on this, purely my thoughts, but MM cocking up like that could of seriously dented our case. Are we sure he’s on ‘our’ side? 
    Not ours, but Nimer's and for me that says he wants PM to win so TN gets a payday from TS.
     Who's PM?
    Panamera  I guessed. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ozaddick said:
    mendonca said:
    MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.

    There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
    That concerned me. I’ve no basis on this, purely my thoughts, but MM cocking up like that could of seriously dented our case. Are we sure he’s on ‘our’ side? 

    I'm 99.99% sure he doesn't support Elliott. His mistake nearly cost us, but I think we can be sure it was just incompetence rather than a deliberate ploy. 
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