Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Can someone please remind me if any paperwork has ever been produced that is signed by both parties, lex dominus and panorama magic detailing the transfer of shares from PM to LD?
I know there was apparently an email where Mihail had said it had happened but is there any signed paperwork with full details of the requirements for the transaction?
If there was, it would have been stated in court. Therefore it doesn’t exist.
So Elliott putting money in was stated so it must be true?
Should the judge not have asked to see evidence of these very crucial details when it was at court.
I can't get my head around that there is hardly any if zero evidence that this took place and still it drags on!
The EFL may have already told Elliott the conclusion of his appeal. It was lodged on an individual basis so I guess they have no plans to put it out to the public.
Can someone please remind me if any paperwork has ever been produced that is signed by both parties, lex dominus and panorama magic detailing the transfer of shares from PM to LD?
I know there was apparently an email where Mihail had said it had happened but is there any signed paperwork with full details of the requirements for the transaction?
If there was, it would have been stated in court. Therefore it doesn’t exist.
I thought a letter on Charlton letter headed paper from MM saying the shares had been transferred was referred to on the first day and LK retaliated by saying the pound hadn't been paid. Could well be confused though.
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The EFL may have already told Elliott the conclusion of his appeal. It was lodged on an individual basis so I guess they have no plans to put it out to the public.
They said f*** all when Nimer failed it.
Nimer didnt fail it... He passed the ODAT which is why he remains a Director of the club
He simply couldnt provide the Source of Funds which is what stopped the takeover from being approved by the EFL and is what put us in the embargo
Can someone please remind me if any paperwork has ever been produced that is signed by both parties, lex dominus and panorama magic detailing the transfer of shares from PM to LD?
I know there was apparently an email where Mihail had said it had happened but is there any signed paperwork with full details of the requirements for the transaction?
If there was, it would have been stated in court. Therefore it doesn’t exist.
So Elliott putting money in was stated so it must be true?
Should the judge not have asked to see evidence of these very crucial details when it was at court.
I can't get my head around that there is hardly any if zero evidence that this took place and still it drags on!
well Lauren Kreamer didn't dispute it ....
Exactly. The irony is that Elliott may well have more credibility than Nimer (A very low bar) but in effect,and due to the shortage of time we are all backing Nimer.
The EFL may have already told Elliott the conclusion of his appeal. It was lodged on an individual basis so I guess they have no plans to put it out to the public.
They said f*** all when Nimer failed it.
Nimer didnt fail it... He passed the ODAT which is why he remains a Director of the club
He simply couldnt provide the Source of Funds which is what stopped the takeover from being approved by the EFL and is what put us in the embargo
Regardless. On both counts the EFL said nothing in public wouldn't you agree?
The EFL made a public statement that they had failed 3 people's OADT applications, I gather that to fail is extremely rare and presumably that's why they make it public. Might also have something to do with the pressure they were under at the time to be more transparent about what was happening.
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The club did "remove" them as that's why they're no longer posting their bollocks on the OS or making appearances at games.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
Can someone please remind me if any paperwork has ever been produced that is signed by both parties, lex dominus and panorama magic detailing the transfer of shares from PM to LD?
I know there was apparently an email where Mihail had said it had happened but is there any signed paperwork with full details of the requirements for the transaction?
If there was, it would have been stated in court. Therefore it doesn’t exist.
I thought a letter on Charlton letter headed paper from MM saying the shares had been transferred was referred to on the first day and LK retaliated by saying the pound hadn't been paid. Could well be confused though.
Elliot categorically does not own the club.
Farnell confirmed it in the Companies House case, and also confirmed it yesterday, albeit with Elliot signing the letter.
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The club did "remove" them as that's why they're no longer posting their bollocks on the OS or making appearances at games.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
5.2 The Appeal:
(a) must be filed with the company secretary within 14 days of receipt of notice of The League's decision;
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The club did "remove" them as that's why they're no longer posting their bollocks on the OS or making appearances at games.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
5.2 The Appeal:
(a) must be filed with the company secretary within 14 days of receipt of notice of The League's decision;
I wonder if that would mean Chris Parkes?
Whoever lodged it, it would be under the orders of MM, I never really understood his reasons for going ahead with the appeal. The whole excuse of it not being fair that Elliot would then banned from ever being a director of a an EFL football club, makes little sense, especially as it would be great news for the whole of football.
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The club did "remove" them as that's why they're no longer posting their bollocks on the OS or making appearances at games.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
5.2 The Appeal:
(a) must be filed with the company secretary within 14 days of receipt of notice of The League's decision;
I wonder if that would mean Chris Parkes?
Whoever lodged it, it would be under the orders of MM, I never really understood his reasons for going ahead with the appeal. The whole excuse of it not being fair that Elliot would then banned from ever being a director of a an EFL football club, makes little sense, especially as it would be great news for the whole of football.
I'd the club refused to submit the appeal I suspect that would have ended in front of a beek as well.
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The club did "remove" them as that's why they're no longer posting their bollocks on the OS or making appearances at games.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The club did "remove" them as that's why they're no longer posting their bollocks on the OS or making appearances at games.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
I thought the appeals had to go through the Club?
Elliott is appealing individually. The club have nothing to do with it.
This is so he can get his grubby mitts in somewhere else.
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The club did "remove" them as that's why they're no longer posting their bollocks on the OS or making appearances at games.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
5.2 The Appeal:
(a) must be filed with the company secretary within 14 days of receipt of notice of The League's decision;
I wonder if that would mean Chris Parkes?
Whoever lodged it, it would be under the orders of MM, I never really understood his reasons for going ahead with the appeal. The whole excuse of it not being fair that Elliot would then banned from ever being a director of a an EFL football club, makes little sense, especially as it would be great news for the whole of football.
It means the appeal must be lodged with the Company Secretary of the EFL not the club secretary of Charlton, however the club would be notiifed if the second attempts fail since they would have to take any necessary action to remove the applicant from any position of management within the club. All the club have to do is announce that on second application an un-named individual passed or failed the test.
I see little benefit to CAFC for the EFL to carry out Elliot's appeal before the 7 days are up. As it stands he has failed, which benefits us (Panorama). If they passed him on appeal on Monday, it can't possibly help our case. Even if it has little or no bearing to the outcome of the appeal.
MM messing up the details about the Oadt test meant that it was an area that we could not expose in the trial.
There were so many holes in that area which we could not pursue with questioning. So much so that better questions have been posed on the board.
The thing about this, is it truly exposes how slap dash and amateur MM is. The details about the OADT and appeals process are clear in the EFL regulations published on their website. I guess though that does mean you have to bother to look if you’re not sure.
Surely it would be down to the Club Secretary to advise MM on the appeal process and what was required and by whom?
Lot of animosity being shown to MM over this. Happy to be proved wrong, but I would have thought CP was partially responsible for the lack of clarity.
Don't buy that Chris Parkes is the football secretary not the company secretary of CAFC Limited. Even if he were a fully fledged qualified Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators (Now known as the Chartered Governance Institute) and appointed under the Companies Act to be the Company Secretary of CAFC Limited he would not be in a position to give advice to Panorama Magic which is the company for whom MM works. So no responsibility in this could fall at CPs door.
This is completely wrong. Chris is the league’s point of contact with the club on virtually all matters and the club’s point of advice about the rules. We used to joke that he actually worked for them rather than the club because of it. It’s why, for example, he was even part of the meeting the EFL had with disgruntled employees about staff bonuses, even though he didn’t support them.
His suspension by Southall apparently came about because he submitted papers for Nimer to the EFL. He is the person who responded to the EFL request for assurance that Elliott was not involved with the running of the club and he is the person who submitted the Aussies’ documents way back when. It is exactly what he does.
FWIW........I reckon the COA wont hear/read the appeal until Wednesday afternoon & some old doddery fart will look at his watch and mutter.. " oh dear, the injunction runs out in an hour & I can't possibly give an answer in that time. Judge Pearce says that the case isn't until November so extending the injunction by a few weeks won't do any harm". And with that the injunction will be extended past the transfer deadline & with it goes our season.
Ultimately, another week shouldn't be a big deal. Given the decision has been made, the chances of undermining the authority of the judge via the appeal has very little chance of success from what I can gather. So rather than us having to wait until November, we have to wait until Wednesday. And of course, the club still has to be sold. If it is sold say on Thursday or Friday next week, the delay surely hasn't even been a delay.
Not unless you count Bowyer not being allowed to get bodies in before the season starts?
This is already having an effect. Elliott will be doing all he can to slow things down now. Expect this appeal to be lodged at the last possible moment. That gives him more time for the fan base to give him pelters and improve his chances.
He told us he lodged his appeal to the EFL within hours of being rejected. Why the delay now?
Ask the EFL.
Though remember it will not be the EFL who announce this, its up to the club (whoever they are) to make it public.
But the club might not be given the information, since the appellant isn't an owner or employee of the club.
Below Taken from the EFL OADT. The EFL will notify the club itself in regards to the outcome. I imagine it's to keep reputable businessmen like Elliott out...
(c) requires each Club not to permit any person who is subject to a Disqualifying Condition either become a Relevant Person or (if he was already a Relevant Person before the Disqualifying Condition arose) to continue to be a Relevant Person for the Club, for so long as the Disqualifying Condition subsists.
3 Decision
3.1 Where The League decides (whether based on a Declaration or otherwise) that a person who is or wishes to become a Relevant Person is subject to a Disqualifying Condition, The League shall notify the person and his Club in writing of that decision (with reasons).
Is there a chance that Elliot(t) has already been told that his OADT appeal has failed, and as it was appealed as an individual the club didn't get informed? As if that's the case then surely he would just sit on the information while the current court case is ongoing?
You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
The club did "remove" them as that's why they're no longer posting their bollocks on the OS or making appearances at games.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
I thought the appeals had to go through the Club?
Elliott is appealing individually. The club have nothing to do with it.
This is so he can get his grubby mitts in somewhere else.
I know he is appealing but I thought the appeal had to be submitted through the Club?
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You'd like to think the EFL would make a statement but....
They said f*** all when Nimer failed it.
Reading through, it didn't mention anything about individuals as such, it's all communicated alongside the club, after all if Elliot pretends he's passed when he hasn't and buys the club, the club will suffer for allowing a person of interest thats failed OADT to act in an official capacity. So would think that the club would be informed still.
I believe the EFL instructed staff to make sure Elliot and Farnell were removed in a statement at the time?
He simply couldnt provide the Source of Funds which is what stopped the takeover from being approved by the EFL and is what put us in the embargo
This is so f***d up.
In terms of the appeal MM said that he was wrong in saying the club would not allowing PE and CF to appeal as they could do so as individuals due to potentially wanting to be involved with other clubs in the future - so I took it to mean that the appeal had gone directly from PE rather than through CAFC.
Farnell confirmed it in the Companies House case, and also confirmed it yesterday, albeit with Elliot signing the letter.
5.2 The Appeal:
(a) must be filed with the company secretary within 14 days of receipt of notice of The League's decision;
I wonder if that would mean Chris Parkes?
This is so he can get his grubby mitts in somewhere else.
As it stands he has failed, which benefits us (Panorama).
If they passed him on appeal on Monday, it can't possibly help our case.
Even if it has little or no bearing to the outcome of the appeal.
Appeal put in the following week. So that's 3 weeks now. Not like is not urgent is it. Like Bumble often says......"get on with the game".
His suspension by Southall apparently came about because he submitted papers for Nimer to the EFL. He is the person who responded to the EFL request for assurance that Elliott was not involved with the running of the club and he is the person who submitted the Aussies’ documents way back when. It is exactly what he does.