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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Disagree.. this is again Pc gone mad! Jim White again sucking up arseholes 
    ‘PC gone mad’. 
    Hmm. Will anyone be blaming Soros by the end of this thread, as I’ve seen on Twitter?
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    'Chinky' has never been acceptable either! Jesus Christ, is this really what people think?  😳😳😳
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    I believe Eskimo is now unacceptable and the correct term is Inuit.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Addickted said:
    I believe Eskimo is now unacceptable and the correct term is Inuit.
    Except that the Inuits are only a small group of the people who live in the polar region, and that other tribes would find it annoying if you called them Inuits!
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Like I have said, and I feel it wise to re-emphasise that I am half Chinese, don't use the word chinky.

    It is not harmless.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    Can we just have a numbering system?

    Oh, but then there would be arguments on your bloody number!
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Addickted said:
    I believe Eskimo is now unacceptable and the correct term is Inuit.
    Yep , Mrs pulled me up for using the term Eskimo a few weeks back .

    I presume in cricketing parlance the “chinaman” has been banished as well, in fact it must be I haven’t heard it in recent times , think it was used in reference to left arm spinners of some sort 


  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Yep. Now known as left hand wrist spin.

    Always found those far more effective for me than the googly (apologies to anyone of Google heritage).
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,602
    edited November 2020
    Try having an Uncle Packie.
    Used to cause many a raised eyebrow in the classroom when discussing my summer holidays when back at school.
    I got a board rubber chucked at me by one of the nuns who thought I was using a derogatory term (& that was in the late 70’s).

    Oh & I have heard Indians in India calling Pakistanis Paki’s.
    And Australians calling anyone with a Mediterranean heritage ‘wop’.
    Neither thought there was an issue.
    Both found it hilarious I was totally appalled 😮 

    And don’t get me started that all Irish sandwich shops advertise ‘sambo of the day’ 😳😳😳😳😳
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    The father in law still says his off to the wog shop actually Pakistanis. He has no thought of him being racist saying that. 
    Think it’s a different world now from the 70s and 80s if you watch back at the sit comes only fools and horses steptoe raising damp in sickness and health on the buses there was no swearing on the tele allowed I remember my dad laughing his head of because someone like sid James or the old man In steptoe nearly swore. 
    But sure if you watch you’ll hear Del Boy saying I’m having a chinky or something else that is totally unacceptable racism  now. Yet you watch  eastenders now and there swearing in it and it’s acceptable. 
    How society now accept calling someone a fucking cunt as ok but not saying I’m having a Chinese takeaway chinky because that’s all it means to me nothing else. 
    From the following words 
    coloured 
    black 
    bollocks 
    to me bollocks is most offensive and talking about a black person I asked my wife when I got in from work what do you think is most offensive coloured person or black person and she said black would seem more offensive to her. 
    Think we’re from different world now honestly sorry if it upsets you paddy but I would never say it to a Chinese person and in the context of it it would be nothing racial but to me saying to the mrs do you fancy a Chinese takeaway and that’s all it means 

    But you just did say it to a Chinese person.

    And you taught your daughter to say it.

    It's not a nice word, easy enough to stop using it.

    So just stop.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    What don't you like about what you call "foul" language like c***, fuck, bollocks, etc?
  • RalphMilnesgut
    RalphMilnesgut Posts: 1,751
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    But it’s not racist context your taking it wrong way and I haven’t actually said it to a Chinese person ever personally. 

    Why have you not said it to a Chinese person?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    This is all reminding me of Derek and Clive 'The Critics'

    THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK AND CONTAINS A LOT OF SWEARING

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuiVFwgAkWk
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    When did ‘southerners’ (or northerners for balance) become a race?
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    RalphMilnesgut said:
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    But it’s not racist context your taking it wrong way and I haven’t actually said it to a Chinese person ever personally. 

    Why have you not said it to a Chinese person?
    @Showmetheway2gohome you seem to have missed this? 
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,148
    Pretty sure Rodney was an avowed anti-racist leftist eco warrior. I also think there's far fewer epithets used in OFAH than people imagine, maybe 2 or 3 in 7 series. Also not sure why a OFAH is relevant.

    There are so few terms you have to remember to use/not use. Fair enough if people are genuinely ignorant, but once it's been mentioned and explained, if you keep using those terms it just makes you a bit 'orrid. Come on, you know it makes sense.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,897
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    Why have you not done the full text for cunt is that not acceptable and the other swear words are or is cunt a racist word.
    When I grew up down south we all swore in our house. But when I moved up my wife’s family did not swear in the house. I found there was no need to add fuck cunt and bastard to my sentences.
    which made me realise it’s a bit embarrassing adding swear words in every sentence for no reason and find it a bit silly now listening to people swearing away for no reason. 
    I referee I get foul and abusive language every weekend. The law of the game is it is a red card for foul and  abusive language. But because swearing in society now is so Much you would never finish a match for sending players off for swearing. So you have to consider what is really worthy off a red card for swearing. 
    So you have to take into account what sort of swearing it is to decide. 
    Is it just frustration can get away with not sending you player off. 
    Normally is it loud everyone around can hear it is it aimed at anyone personally or is it provocative buy trying to start something.then it’s a sending off. 
    So are all words that seem racist actually racist I say no it’s how they are used that makes them racial. 

    100% right and total common sense 
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    The father in law still says his off to the wog shop actually Pakistanis. He has no thought of him being racist saying that. 
    Think it’s a different world now from the 70s and 80s if you watch back at the sit comes only fools and horses steptoe raising damp in sickness and health on the buses there was no swearing on the tele allowed I remember my dad laughing his head of because someone like sid James or the old man In steptoe nearly swore. 
    But sure if you watch you’ll hear Del Boy saying I’m having a chinky or something else that is totally unacceptable racism  now. Yet you watch  eastenders now and there swearing in it and it’s acceptable. 
    How society now accept calling someone a fucking cunt as ok but not saying I’m having a Chinese takeaway chinky because that’s all it means to me nothing else. 
    From the following words 
    coloured 
    black 
    bollocks 
    to me bollocks is most offensive and talking about a black person I asked my wife when I got in from work what do you think is most offensive coloured person or black person and she said black would seem more offensive to her. 
    Think we’re from different world now honestly sorry if it upsets you paddy but I would never say it to a Chinese person and in the context of it it would be nothing racial but to me saying to the mrs do you fancy a Chinese takeaway and that’s all it means 

    Look mate, I quite explicitly said "do not use the word" - twice - and you go ahead and use it multiple times. Other than one other poster who used the word to point out that it's unacceptable these days, no one else has written it, since I asked.

    That crapulous non-apology is incredibly insulting. As another poster posits, would you say that word to my - or any other Far East Asian person's - face?
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    STOP USING THE FUCKING WORD FULL STOP.
  • Spitfire76
    Spitfire76 Posts: 1,136
    PaddyP17 said:
    STOP USING THE FUCKING WORD FULL STOP.
    Glad to see freedom of speech is still allowed 🙄
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  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,141
    edited November 2020
    Spitfire76 said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    STOP USING THE FUCKING WORD FULL STOP.
    Glad to see freedom of speech is still allowed 🙄
    Indeed mate, the F-word is quite offensive too, as is : -

    All tories are evil scum,
    I wish all tories were dead,
    All brexiters are scum.
    All brexiters are knuckle draggers etc, etc etc..zzzzz

    But one rule for them and another rule for others.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Spitfire76 said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    STOP USING THE FUCKING WORD FULL STOP.
    Glad to see freedom of speech is still allowed 🙄
    Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from repercussions of that speech. I am a Chinese man telling someone to stop using a term that a couple of times a month is used to racially abuse me. I am telling them to stop using it in any context.

    This is not a difficult concept to grasp.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Chippycafc said:
    Spitfire76 said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    STOP USING THE FUCKING WORD FULL STOP.
    Glad to see freedom of speech is still allowed 🙄
    Indeed mate, the F-word is quite offensive too, as is : -

    All tories are evil scum,
    I wish all tories were dead,
    All brexiters are scum.
    All brexiters are knuckle draggers etc, etc etc..zzzzz

    But one rule for them and another rule for others.
    Point me to where I have said anything resembling this. Go on. I dare you. Double dare you.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    edited November 2020
    Spitfire76 said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    STOP USING THE FUCKING WORD FULL STOP.
    Glad to see freedom of speech is still allowed 🙄
    Freedom of speech does not include freedom to use racial epithets. 

    Imagine someone was using the word 'coon' to refer to black people, instead of 'chinky' to refer to Chinese people? 

    Actually - you know what? Fuck it, I give up. Its literally intolerable to even have this discussion. It would have been intolerable 20 fucking years ago. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Should freedom of speech include (when there isn't one) shouting 'fire!' in a crowded darkened theatre?

  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,141
    PaddyP17 said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Spitfire76 said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    STOP USING THE FUCKING WORD FULL STOP.
    Glad to see freedom of speech is still allowed 🙄
    Indeed mate, the F-word is quite offensive too, as is : -

    All tories are evil scum,
    I wish all tories were dead,
    All brexiters are scum.
    All brexiters are knuckle draggers etc, etc etc..zzzzz

    But one rule for them and another rule for others.
    Point me to where I have said anything resembling this. Go on. I dare you. Double dare you.
    So you clearly think the above words and phrases are acceptable as you haven't agreed, says it all...and who says i was talking about you, don't flatter yourself...You have been added to the ignore list.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,781
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Disagree.. this is again Pc gone mad! Jim White again sucking up arseholes 
    What a strange comment.
  • Super_Eddie_Youds
    Super_Eddie_Youds Posts: 1,977
    AddicksAddict said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Disagree.. this is again Pc gone mad! Jim White again sucking up arseholes 
    What a strange comment.
    Well you have a lot more to come, a lot more since that one. Wow.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,781
    BrentfordAddick said:
    It's understandable to find the nuances in what is or isn't acceptable confusing. But in a senior position it is your job to know these things. And if anyone, anyone, in 202 thinks that being gay is a 'lifestyle choice' then we have a long way to go. 
    Puto Romanos erant remissum de homosexualitate.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,781
    Henry Irving said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Racist, homophobic and sexist all in one go.

    If only he could have had a dig at people with disabilities he could have got the jackpot.

    People defending him, have a word with yourselves.

    He's not some random bloke in the golf club bar. 

    He is, or was fortunately, the chair of the FA being questioned at a parliamentary select committe.

    Not only has he made no effort to learn (being gay or straight isn't a "choice", Girls (sic), some of them like having balls kicked at them) he is meant to be setting an example.

    He can't be excused, but some will try, with "he's 63".  He a leader of a hugely high profile national organisation. He should be a role model. He should be doing training.

    Good riddance.

    And if people really want to know and aren't just sealioning. People of Colour/Black are fine, Coloured isn't.

    It's not hard, it's not PC gone mad, it's just common courtesy.
    I honestly have no idea what sealioning is.... But, you should take a look at yourself.  I also am 63, and believe it or not do not expect anybody to excuse me because of my age.  And for gods sake the USA have just voted the most powerful man in the world into a job at the age of 77. You obviously have a problem with anybody who isn’t your age, and doesn’t 100% share your exact opinion. 

    How old do you think I am?
    How old do you want me to be?

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