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Match Thread: Charlton v Portsmouth | Sat 30 Jan 2021 *POSTPONED!*
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Hal1x said:Cafc43v3r said:Rothko said:
I am sure we have, in the past, had a pitch that is grown through a plastic mesh which helps bind the roots/soil. No idea if we still do. I remember seeing it on the OS. Maybe that's what the Op was referring to?0 -
Was that Colin Powell’s son ?1
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oohaahmortimer said:Was that Colin Powell’s son ?0
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What did the pools panel decide on the match?0
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MattF said:Reproduced from the Facebook group since I hadn't seen it posted on here (apologies if it was)
"...Right for people that don’t understand let me clear some things up. I currently work for the FA as a match day Groundsman at Wembley Stadium and I used to work on the pitch at The Valley when Roland Duchatelet installed the current pitch.1) Groundsmen will have worked tirelessly to get the game on.2) It’s not just a case of where were the pitch covers. Pitch pitch covers stops the pitch from freezing not stop it from getting wet. With Covid lockdown I suspect they are short on staff so difficult to have a group of people remove all the covers.3) The technology underneath that pitch it’s good but in an ideal world there would be subbase systems that would remove excess water from the pitch.4) Under soil heating isn’t a factor today as the pitch wasn’t frozen. Yes the pipes are not connected up but even with the under so heating on that would not have stopped today’s events.5) Where the season ended so late the window of opportunity to renovate the surface or small. A groundsman typically has 10 to 12 weeks to get a surface ready for a new season. Unfortunately that never happened this year. Add in the factor we had no money so I suspect the budget for the pitch was very low.6) Where I work at Wembley Stadium they have multiple bits of kit that encourages the plant to grow throughout winter until direct sunlight can cover the pitch and the temperatures are warm enough. If a club can afford to have pitch lights it’s a game changer. Unfortunately it’s very expensive and at league one level not efficient.6) Charlton Athletic have a fibre sand based pitch with no sub air system to draw the moisture out which for our level and championship football is for all intense purposes absolutely fine. Unfortunately, when you get weather like we have to today or small periods of cold weather postponing a fixture is far cheaper than investing in hi the technical and sophisticated systems.7) The ideal surface is ‘Desso Grassmaster’ this is where they stitch fibres into the pitch then the real plant/ grass binds onto this stopping the pitch tearing up. Again you’re talking millions of pounds to put this stuff in place.8 ) The last time I looked one pitch lamp cost in excess of £250 per 24 hours. Therefore, to cover the whole valley surface you would need up anything up to 18 depending on how much area you are trying to recover. So that is £4,500 per day if you went full on.9) I can assure you everyone the ground today would of done their best to get that fixture on."0 -
On a positive note it gives us all something to watch on Tuesday night and meltdowns are always better midweek 😂😂😂8
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killerandflash said:Crusty54 said:killerandflash said:No comments from Thomas on Twitter today, I wonder what his reaction to the postponement was?
I don't mean that I expect him to be blaming people, but clearly he'll want to avoid this happening again
And in the NL, even if you discount Bromley because they have a plastic pitch, both Dagenham and Barnet's games went ahead.killerandflash said:Crusty54 said:killerandflash said:No comments from Thomas on Twitter today, I wonder what his reaction to the postponement was?
I don't mean that I expect him to be blaming people, but clearly he'll want to avoid this happening again
And in the NL, even if you discount Bromley because they have a plastic pitch, both Dagenham and Barnet's games went ahead.
I was walking around Charlton Park in the late morning. Many of the paths were covered in water because it couldn't drain into the grass which was waterlogged. Local enough to work out that the game would be off.
We have had a lot of rain in south east London recently. Sorry but the game needed to be postponed.4 -
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Crusty54 said:killerandflash said:Crusty54 said:killerandflash said:No comments from Thomas on Twitter today, I wonder what his reaction to the postponement was?
I don't mean that I expect him to be blaming people, but clearly he'll want to avoid this happening again
And in the NL, even if you discount Bromley because they have a plastic pitch, both Dagenham and Barnet's games went ahead.killerandflash said:Crusty54 said:killerandflash said:No comments from Thomas on Twitter today, I wonder what his reaction to the postponement was?
I don't mean that I expect him to be blaming people, but clearly he'll want to avoid this happening again
And in the NL, even if you discount Bromley because they have a plastic pitch, both Dagenham and Barnet's games went ahead.
I was walking around Charlton Park in the late morning. Many of the paths were covered in water because it couldn't drain into the grass which was waterlogged. Local enough to work out that the game would be off.
We have had a lot of rain in south east London recently. Sorry but the game needed to be postponed.1 -
Pissing down here in East Sussex, what's it like in SE7 today?0
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The question is how good/bad is the drainage system Uncle Roly got for us
is it one of those that’s great as long as it doesn’t rain1 -
LargeAddick said:Pissing down here in East Sussex, what's it like in SE7 today?0
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oohaahmortimer said:The question is how good/bad is the drainage system Uncle Roly got for us
is it one of those that’s great as long as it doesn’t rain0 -
When you look at Doncaster's PPG being over 2 points a game, you can see how hard it is going to be to catch them if they sustain their form. If we win our next five, our PPG will be only 1.76. As we have shown though, a poor run brings this down significantly.
On a more positive note, when you are looking at 6th place, that is six teams and some of them are going to have poor or so so runs over 46 games. Looking back at previous full seasons (19/20 backwards) the PPG for 6th has been 1.58,1.54,1.58,1.6,1.5. This suggests we are currently on or just above that region.
But negatively, the PPG for 6th on a shortened 35 game season was 1.71. Significantly higher than the normal PPG for this place. This could be due to having less games to have a poor run, due to injuries or whatever. There is some logic here as Wycombe for example looked like they were slipping down the table as the season was stopped.
What definitely seems to be the case is that we don't want the season ending early and we can't afford any more poor runs like the last one. Pompey, and Posh ought to be our targets and we can't afford to lose against our targets.0 -
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MuttleyCAFC said:When you look at Doncaster's PPG being over 2 points a game, you can see how hard it is going to be to catch them if they sustain their form. If we win our next five, our PPG will be only 1.76. As we have shown though, a poor run brings this down significantly.
What definitely seems to be the case is that we don't want the season ending early and we can't afford any more poor runs like the last one. Pompey, and Posh ought to be our targets and we can't afford to lose against our targets.
Sure, if the season ended today, our PPG is going to see us miss out.
But so far it hasn't and right now, there's still every chance the season will complete.
Meanwhile, we definitely can't afford to lose games against our promotion/playoff rivals.
If we are able to win these games, there's a good chance we can make up ground very quickly.
It's not only Charlton who can't afford poor runs ....... and you can bet there's going to be clubs around us that will have poor runs also.
I mean Peterborough and Lincoln both lost yesterday; and Sunderland conceded a last minute equaliser.
Many twists and turns to come ..... after all there's half a season left to play.
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Oggy Red said:MuttleyCAFC said:When you look at Doncaster's PPG being over 2 points a game, you can see how hard it is going to be to catch them if they sustain their form. If we win our next five, our PPG will be only 1.76. As we have shown though, a poor run brings this down significantly.
What definitely seems to be the case is that we don't want the season ending early and we can't afford any more poor runs like the last one. Pompey, and Posh ought to be our targets and we can't afford to lose against our targets.
Sure, if the season ended today, our PPG is going to see us miss out.
But so far it hasn't and right now, there's still every chance the season will complete.
Meanwhile, we definitely can't afford to lose games against our promotion/playoff rivals.
If we are able to win these games, there's a good chance we can make up ground very quickly.
It's not only Charlton who can't afford poor runs ....... and you can bet there's going to be clubs around us that will have poor runs also.
I mean Peterborough and Lincoln both lost yesterday; and Sunderland conceded a last minute equaliser.
Many twists and turns to come ..... after all there's half a season left to play.
Of course I have made no secret of who I blame for our poor run, but if we are not going to get rid of him, I am hoping that the signs of improvement continue. Our squad is easily good enough for top six. We need to go on a good run, and given the squad, that is something we should expect and yes, demand.
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Yep, I would agree with that, Muttley.
A reasonably settled and balanced team lineup = consistency (injuries permitting).
Even after our very difficult situation at the beginning of the season, we should be achieving our potential of top 6.
And I believe we will.
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Oggy Red said:Yep, I would agree with that, Muttley.
A reasonably settled and balanced team lineup = consistency (injuries permitting).
Even after our very difficult situation at the beginning of the season, we should be achieving our potential of top 6.
And I believe we will.1 -
I would like to see this fixture played in wellies.
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MattF said:Reproduced from the Facebook group since I hadn't seen it posted on here (apologies if it was)
"...Right for people that don’t understand let me clear some things up. I currently work for the FA as a match day Groundsman at Wembley Stadium and I used to work on the pitch at The Valley when Roland Duchatelet installed the current pitch.1) Groundsmen will have worked tirelessly to get the game on.2) It’s not just a case of where were the pitch covers. Pitch pitch covers stops the pitch from freezing not stop it from getting wet. With Covid lockdown I suspect they are short on staff so difficult to have a group of people remove all the covers.3) The technology underneath that pitch it’s good but in an ideal world there would be subbase systems that would remove excess water from the pitch.4) Under soil heating isn’t a factor today as the pitch wasn’t frozen. Yes the pipes are not connected up but even with the under so heating on that would not have stopped today’s events.5) Where the season ended so late the window of opportunity to renovate the surface or small. A groundsman typically has 10 to 12 weeks to get a surface ready for a new season. Unfortunately that never happened this year. Add in the factor we had no money so I suspect the budget for the pitch was very low.6) Where I work at Wembley Stadium they have multiple bits of kit that encourages the plant to grow throughout winter until direct sunlight can cover the pitch and the temperatures are warm enough. If a club can afford to have pitch lights it’s a game changer. Unfortunately it’s very expensive and at league one level not efficient.6) Charlton Athletic have a fibre sand based pitch with no sub air system to draw the moisture out which for our level and championship football is for all intense purposes absolutely fine. Unfortunately, when you get weather like we have to today or small periods of cold weather postponing a fixture is far cheaper than investing in hi the technical and sophisticated systems.7) The ideal surface is ‘Desso Grassmaster’ this is where they stitch fibres into the pitch then the real plant/ grass binds onto this stopping the pitch tearing up. Again you’re talking millions of pounds to put this stuff in place.8 ) The last time I looked one pitch lamp cost in excess of £250 per 24 hours. Therefore, to cover the whole valley surface you would need up anything up to 18 depending on how much area you are trying to recover. So that is £4,500 per day if you went full on.9) I can assure you everyone the ground today would of done their best to get that fixture on."0 -
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