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Nigel Adkins 100% support

DiscoCAFC
DiscoCAFC Posts: 1,762
edited August 2021 in General Charlton
And I say this with absolute confidence.

The best 11 (aside from Gilbey and JFC) was out there and I can’t fault the effort of the players but it’s a very poor 11. It’s clear investment is needed in our squad. I’m not blaming Atkins why we’ve had a poor start. When we’re playing teams who have already set up their recruitment we’re falling in the deep end.

This is why I say 100% support for Atkins. I think he’s doing the best with what we’ve got at the moment.
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  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,862
    edited August 2021
    I think Adkins is a decent manager, I don't think it's his fault at all, although I am open to differing views. 

    More than anything, I hope we don't end up in a scenario where we start changing managers every month to give us a fall guy to detract from a shit owner.

    Even more than anything, I hope we don't have a shit owner... 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,258
    Adkins 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,499
    I'm not so sure.
    Yes he's not been given the best support so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But we are consistently making the same mistakes within games and I'm not sure the players we have got are fully behind his positive mantra.

  • DiscoCAFC
    DiscoCAFC Posts: 1,762
    shirty5 said:
    Adkins 
    Corrected. Bloody autocorrect lol
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,197
    edited August 2021
     Adkins inherited Bowyers squad and we got near to a playoff place. He has had all summer to make some signings, knowing JFC was out long term and build at team to make an effort at the autos this season. The players he brought in just don't seem up to the job.
    As for having Stockers as a loan striker with scant service and no player capable of picking up the second ball, is like flogging a willing horse.
    JJ sitting on the bench yesterday looked totally fed up. 
    I think Adkins has 3 more games to turn this around. This mess, and it is a mess is down fairly and squarely to Adkins.
    Don't mind losing, its the disjointed chaotic performances that wind me up! 

    And i have Gus Poyet in a heartbeat.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,779
    Sadly he will never get 100% support because our fan base is as disjointed as the team they support . 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,084
    Squads not good, but that doesn't excuse us not having a shot on target for the past 2 home games.

    Still behind him though as I do think he's a decent manager 
  • Give Adkins the tools to do the job and he will.I think the owner does not have the money
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,153
    DiscoCAFC said:
    And I say this with absolute confidence.

    The best 11 (aside from Gilbey and JFC) was out there and I can’t fault the effort of the players but it’s a very poor 11. It’s clear investment is needed in our squad. I’m not blaming Atkins why we’ve had a poor start. When we’re playing teams who have already set up their recruitment we’re falling in the deep end.

    This is why I say 100% support for Atkins. I think he’s doing the best with what we’ve got at the moment.
    Not from me. I at least need to see something other than long ball, archaic football and delusional sound bites first. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    edited August 2021
    Nigel Adkins has spent 40 years in football and is a smashing guy but the 25 clean sheets comment is just for a five star hotel and not this present Cafc team.

    Have to trust me on this but over the last hundred years (it feels like it !) This is the weakest set up ever for scoring goals at Charlton I can recall. Only Five games but......

    So if we concede at one end and can't score at the other end, we are in major trouble. 
    Only five games in including the League cup defeat but we have no fire power and two goals from set pieces is our only return.


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  • I wasn’t excited when we appointed him, he won me over last year but back to square one after the start. I’ve seen Charlton lose before and it will happen again, Two home games and the visiting keeper hasn’t been tested. Not good enough.


  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,773
    edited August 2021
    I can't see we have glaring alternatives in terms of formations we can play. Even if we wanted to play an obscene Long ball game we would need to bring a couple in. Adkins needs to have the right players and be judged how he does with them.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,353
    Terrible football, terrible players, terrible sound bites. 

    He hasn't got his hands tied behind his back by the owner like many of our recent managers, and has so far assembled one of the worst Charlton squads I have ever seen
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    Reposting from the post-match comments: 

    I think Adkins deserves a bit of time. 

    He's come into a squad that clearly isn't good enough. Couple of long-term injuries means he has no LB and no AM. 

    Another injury to Clare means he's forced to name 3 central midfielders and have no others on the bench. 

    Moving us to 4-4-2 because of the lack of central midfielders in the second half lost us the game, but he was forced into that change because of our lack of depth. 

    I wouldn't say any player looks worse under Adkins than under a previous manager, they're just poor players and he's had to make do. 


    The recruitment isn't down to him and that's the issue we're having at the moment. 
  •  Adkins inherited Bowyers squad and we got near to a playoff place. He has had all summer to make some signings, knowing JFC was out long term and build at team to make an effort at the autos this season. The players he brought in just don't seem up to the job.
    As for having Stockers as a loan striker with scant service and no player capable of picking up the second ball, is like flogging a willing horse.
    JJ sitting on the bench yesterday looked totally fed up. 
    I think Adkins has 3 more games to turn this around. This mess, and it is a mess is down fairly and squarely to Adkins.
    Don't mind losing, its the disjointed chaotic performances that wind me up! 

    And i have Gus Poyet in a heartbeat.
    I think you're wildly wrong with those 2 points.

    1. Do you seriously think Adkins would have wanted to start the season with the squad he currently has? How can you blame him for not making signings? 
    2. How can you lay the blame solely with Adkins when it's quite apparent that Roddy, TS and Gallen are all heavily involved in who we sign?

    From last season he's lost both left backs, our POTY, Millar, and our top scorer. Instead of Aneke coming off the bench, he has Davison!

    Yes the football isn't great i agree, but i don't see too many managers who would do better with the shite we have available.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,199
    Adkins done well last season, let's hope he can turn things around.
    Having said that, yesterday was poor.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,176
    I can't see we have glaring alternatives in terms of formations we can play. Even if we wanted to play an obscene Long ball game we would need to bring a couple in. Adkins needs to have the right players and be judged how he does with them.
    100% agree with that. Watching that yesterday, should have reminded us that professional football does have some fundamental truths. If your starting squad of 18 is significantly worse than the other team's, especially when comparing bench options, then it does not matter if your players pretty much carry out your instructions to the best of their ability (which I think they did yesterday); then in all probability you will lose the game, even if it takes until 88 minutes for the killer blow to happen.

    Adkins is saying clearly enough to anyone who cares to listen  that this is nowhere near the squad he planned for at this stage, and nor is it the style of football he plans for. And I don't think that any other manager at all would do any better in the current situation.
  • Redvaliant
    Redvaliant Posts: 515
    NA certainly still has my support. The owner made some bold claims, but has failed to support him with adequate investment in the team.

    What we see is a highly paid technical director who seems to be adding  eff all other than fast tracking his son, a highly paid commercial manager doing nothing as no one is interested in a league one club and a professional women's team that no one is that bothered about.  
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,773
    With Bowyer, he would say the players are not good enough. Adkins won't say that and in all honesty it achieves nothing saying that. But we shouldn't assume he is happy with what we have. He doesn't put it bluntly but it is clear enough he knows we needs more in.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,978
    edited August 2021
    I'm happy to support Adkins at the moment.

    I am surprised though by people saying he might walk, as if us getting him in the first place was a massive coup for the club, or that he was still managerial hot property. The world of football quickly moves on, and you soon become forgotten about, as new coaches and managers come on the scene. 

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,074
    I’m not too sure, he has my support because he’s Charlton manager and he hasn’t done anything to lose it (yet). But the “100% support” thing was started for Chris Powell, and later revived for Bowyer (I think), Adkins has none of the previous association or hero status to earn that level of unwavering support. He’s just another manager and we’re just another job for him, the relationship is transactional and my support for him is based on him delivering results.
  • No excuse for the poor football we are playing, 100% blame lies with Adkins. No matter how bad the set of players we currently have are, we shouldn’t be playing such negative and dull football.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I'm happy to support Adkins.

    I am surprised though by people saying he might walk, as if us getting him in the first place was a massive coup for the club, or that he was still managerial hot property. The world of football quickly moves on, and you soon become forgotten about, as new coaches and managers come on the scene. 
    There is a difference between being a hot property and not needing the hassle.  Adkins isn't going to walk away from us and expect a championship job by Xmas.

    What Adkins can do is walk away and not wonder where his next pay cheque is coming from.  He never needed to work again after getting sacked from Southampton.

    I don't think he will walk during the season he certainly won't be here next season if the glaring issues aren't addressed though. 
  • sam3110 said:
    Terrible football, terrible players, terrible sound bites. 

    He hasn't got his hands tied behind his back by the owner like many of our recent managers, and has so far assembled one of the worst Charlton squads I have ever seen
    For that to be true you are assuming that Adkins and only Adkins is responsible for recruitment. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,959
    edited August 2021
    Adkins has been utterly screwed by TS - that’s my opinion anyhow.

    If he was a builder and someone asked him to build a house, it’s the equivalent of being given a budget child’s tool set to do the job.

    I think the guy has been sold down the river, and can’t make a miracle out of the league 2 standard players he has been able to bring in (bar Kirk) and as such has my support.

    So in short this is genuine positivity. I’m positive towards Adkins because the fault doesn’t lie with him.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,889
    I wasn’t wowed when he was appointed and I’m not enjoying it at the moment, but he does have my 100% backing though 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    I didn’t want him when we appointed him, his cheesy sound bites did nothing to adhere me to him and now our team play like a shit Sunday league team.

    I fear that Euell (who I wanted to get the job) and Jackson’s inclusion in his set up may have ruined any chance either of them have with our first team for the foreseeable.



  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,978
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I'm happy to support Adkins.

    I am surprised though by people saying he might walk, as if us getting him in the first place was a massive coup for the club, or that he was still managerial hot property. The world of football quickly moves on, and you soon become forgotten about, as new coaches and managers come on the scene. 
    There is a difference between being a hot property and not needing the hassle.  Adkins isn't going to walk away from us and expect a championship job by Xmas.

    What Adkins can do is walk away and not wonder where his next pay cheque is coming from.  He never needed to work again after getting sacked from Southampton.

    I don't think he will walk during the season he certainly won't be here next season if the glaring issues aren't addressed though. 
    He doesn't need to work, but might still want to. There are loads of ex managers out there, missing the buzz of football management, and desperate for a job.

    If his time at Charlton ends badly, that might be it for his managerial career
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I'm happy to support Adkins.

    I am surprised though by people saying he might walk, as if us getting him in the first place was a massive coup for the club, or that he was still managerial hot property. The world of football quickly moves on, and you soon become forgotten about, as new coaches and managers come on the scene. 
    There is a difference between being a hot property and not needing the hassle.  Adkins isn't going to walk away from us and expect a championship job by Xmas.

    What Adkins can do is walk away and not wonder where his next pay cheque is coming from.  He never needed to work again after getting sacked from Southampton.

    I don't think he will walk during the season he certainly won't be here next season if the glaring issues aren't addressed though. 
    He doesn't need to work, but might still want to. There are loads of ex managers out there, missing the buzz of football management, and desperate for a job.

    If his time at Charlton ends badly, that might be it for his managerial career
    Of course your right and if your off the horse for too long your never get a job again, it's called the Curbishley effect.

    He didn't seem that desperate after leaving Hull.  After the performances last season he probably still has credit in the game what ever happens this season. 
  • He is too nice a guy to be a modern day manager  . I like him as a person  , but not as our guvnor  .