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Petrol Supply Problems
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And you’re angry cos I’ve a point.cafcdave123 said:
whatever, you're boring.BR7_addick said:
Taking what hint, if it’s relevant to the thread I’ll post what I want when I want despite who it upsets. If you can’t stomach discussing the causes of the thread title that’s your problem not mine.cafcdave123 said:
textbook bellenderyBR7_addick said:
😂 Textbook response when found wanting.Gribbo said:
Shut up and go over onto the relevant Group discussion pages.BR7_addick said:
So what do you know that the head of UK haulage companies don’t then? If you have info they don’t you should help them out.Gribbo said:
Lorry driver shortages are Europewide mateBR7_addick said:
The thread is about fuel shortages.cafcdave123 said:
can I suggest you stop reading it then because you're bringing it onto a thread that isn't going down that road until you and rothko start banging on like all seeing all knowing authoritiesBR7_addick said:
Absolutely plastered all over social network. To be expected I guess.cafcdave123 said:
where has all this happened?BR7_addick said:
Pretty much how I see it.Uboat said:News outlets: THERE’S A PETROL CRISIS!!! (but don’t panic buy).
Also news outlets: it’s because of Covid and Brexit.The public: bloody Covid eh.Don’t forget Br..BLOODY COVID!
The fuel shortages are due to lorry driver shortages.
The lorry driver shortage is due to Covid and brexit.
So whether if upsets you or not, it is very much “down that road”. I have no authority on this subject bit of an odd point, I’m just repeating what most media outlets are airing.
Again, this is a fuel shortage thread, I’m discussing causes of the fuel shortage. It’s thee most relevant thread.
rather than taking the hint, trying to make others look wrong.
fucking boring2 -
Lol was about to say the same.ShootersHillGuru said:
Chippy doesn’t smell. I’ve met him.The Prince-e-Paul said:Get an old diesel and throw in some veg oil. Might smell like a chippy but you'll keep going.2 -
Surprised this hasn't been said yet, to be honest. It's well known that working conditions for HGV drivers is deemed as sub-par by pretty much all drivers. The shortage is a multi-faceted issue, as with most things, but reductionists will always scream the loudest.SE10Addick said:There is no shortage of HGV drivers in the UK.
There is/was a severe lack of drivers willing to do an often horrible job for £10 per hour.10 -
But right.cafcdave123 said:
whatever, you're boring.BR7_addick said:
Taking what hint, if it’s relevant to the thread I’ll post what I want when I want despite who it upsets. If you can’t stomach discussing the causes of the thread title that’s your problem not mine.cafcdave123 said:
textbook bellenderyBR7_addick said:
😂 Textbook response when found wanting.Gribbo said:
Shut up and go over onto the relevant Group discussion pages.BR7_addick said:
So what do you know that the head of UK haulage companies don’t then? If you have info they don’t you should help them out.Gribbo said:
Lorry driver shortages are Europewide mateBR7_addick said:
The thread is about fuel shortages.cafcdave123 said:
can I suggest you stop reading it then because you're bringing it onto a thread that isn't going down that road until you and rothko start banging on like all seeing all knowing authoritiesBR7_addick said:
Absolutely plastered all over social network. To be expected I guess.cafcdave123 said:
where has all this happened?BR7_addick said:
Pretty much how I see it.Uboat said:News outlets: THERE’S A PETROL CRISIS!!! (but don’t panic buy).
Also news outlets: it’s because of Covid and Brexit.The public: bloody Covid eh.Don’t forget Br..BLOODY COVID!
The fuel shortages are due to lorry driver shortages.
The lorry driver shortage is due to Covid and brexit.
So whether if upsets you or not, it is very much “down that road”. I have no authority on this subject bit of an odd point, I’m just repeating what most media outlets are airing.
Again, this is a fuel shortage thread, I’m discussing causes of the fuel shortage. It’s thee most relevant thread.
rather than taking the hint, trying to make others look wrong.
fucking boring4 -
But longer than the petrol0
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The media are the biggest culprits on todays issues.
Posting reporters on forecourts (as an example) is unhelpful.
I assume as people cant fill their vehicles more than the tank holds (I know they night have petrol cans too) the demand can be better managed beyond today compared to panic food buying.
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The local fuel station being blocked has ground the rest of the traffic down to a crawl. Rush hours going to be a nightmare this evening.1
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I’m going out and buying 150 bogrolls tonight. You never know.11
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Going to get my petrol cans out of the shed.
Problem is I've got 800 bog rolls blocking them in.14 -
Up for some swapsies if you're interested. Got 60L of petrol in the garage.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m going out and buying 150 bogrolls tonight. You never know.3 -
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For those heading to Charlton tomorrow via Sun in the Sands / Shooters Hill RoadSantaClaus said:The local fuel station being blocked has ground the rest of the traffic down to a crawl. Rush hours going to be a nightmare this evening.
Wonder if it might be worth leaving a little earlier for the game tomorrow, as you've got that Shell petrol station just before Shooters Hill and Old Dover Road - Will make that junction hell tomorrow if there are queues
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won't be a problem as I doubt they'll have any left past tonight !2
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Yeah that wont surprise me eitherElthamaddick said:won't be a problem as I doubt they'll have any left past tonight !0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:
But right.cafcdave123 said:
whatever, you're boring.BR7_addick said:
Taking what hint, if it’s relevant to the thread I’ll post what I want when I want despite who it upsets. If you can’t stomach discussing the causes of the thread title that’s your problem not mine.cafcdave123 said:
textbook bellenderyBR7_addick said:
😂 Textbook response when found wanting.Gribbo said:
Shut up and go over onto the relevant Group discussion pages.BR7_addick said:
So what do you know that the head of UK haulage companies don’t then? If you have info they don’t you should help them out.Gribbo said:
Lorry driver shortages are Europewide mateBR7_addick said:
The thread is about fuel shortages.cafcdave123 said:
can I suggest you stop reading it then because you're bringing it onto a thread that isn't going down that road until you and rothko start banging on like all seeing all knowing authoritiesBR7_addick said:
Absolutely plastered all over social network. To be expected I guess.cafcdave123 said:
where has all this happened?BR7_addick said:
Pretty much how I see it.Uboat said:News outlets: THERE’S A PETROL CRISIS!!! (but don’t panic buy).
Also news outlets: it’s because of Covid and Brexit.The public: bloody Covid eh.Don’t forget Br..BLOODY COVID!
all we need is someone to mention race so paddy can rock up in all of his authority , its fucking boring
The fuel shortages are due to lorry driver shortages.
The lorry driver shortage is due to Covid and brexit.
So whether if upsets you or not, it is very much “down that road”. I have no authority on this subject bit of an odd point, I’m just repeating what most media outlets are airing.
Again, this is a fuel shortage thread, I’m discussing causes of the fuel shortage. It’s thee most relevant thread.
rather than taking the hint, trying to make others look wrong.
fucking boring
He's not right though.
Seeing as the discussion is continueing on here -
https://trans.info/en/there-s-a-europe-wide-hgv-driver-shortage-so-why-do-uk-supply-chains-seem-more-disrupted-254524
I'll be happy to post up the empty shelves that they sometimes have in my local supermarkets, with "not available" signs one the shelves, next time I'm in one0 -
I doubt if there will be any petrol left there by then.ForeverAddickted said:
For those heading to Charlton tomorrow via Sun in the Sands / Shooters Hill RoadSantaClaus said:The local fuel station being blocked has ground the rest of the traffic down to a crawl. Rush hours going to be a nightmare this evening.
Wonder if it might be worth leaving a little earlier for the game tomorrow, as you've got that Shell petrol station just before Shooters Hill and Old Dover Road - Will make that junction hell tomorrow if there are queues1 -
No one is denying there’s issues around Europe. Our own HGV bosses are saying it’s a combination of Covid and B*****Gribbo said:ShootersHillGuru said:
But right.cafcdave123 said:
whatever, you're boring.BR7_addick said:
Taking what hint, if it’s relevant to the thread I’ll post what I want when I want despite who it upsets. If you can’t stomach discussing the causes of the thread title that’s your problem not mine.cafcdave123 said:
textbook bellenderyBR7_addick said:
😂 Textbook response when found wanting.Gribbo said:
Shut up and go over onto the relevant Group discussion pages.BR7_addick said:
So what do you know that the head of UK haulage companies don’t then? If you have info they don’t you should help them out.Gribbo said:
Lorry driver shortages are Europewide mateBR7_addick said:
The thread is about fuel shortages.cafcdave123 said:
can I suggest you stop reading it then because you're bringing it onto a thread that isn't going down that road until you and rothko start banging on like all seeing all knowing authoritiesBR7_addick said:
Absolutely plastered all over social network. To be expected I guess.cafcdave123 said:
where has all this happened?BR7_addick said:
Pretty much how I see it.Uboat said:News outlets: THERE’S A PETROL CRISIS!!! (but don’t panic buy).
Also news outlets: it’s because of Covid and Brexit.The public: bloody Covid eh.Don’t forget Br..BLOODY COVID!
all we need is someone to mention race so paddy can rock up in all of his authority , its fucking boring
The fuel shortages are due to lorry driver shortages.
The lorry driver shortage is due to Covid and brexit.
So whether if upsets you or not, it is very much “down that road”. I have no authority on this subject bit of an odd point, I’m just repeating what most media outlets are airing.
Again, this is a fuel shortage thread, I’m discussing causes of the fuel shortage. It’s thee most relevant thread.
rather than taking the hint, trying to make others look wrong.
fucking boring
He's not right though.
Seeing as the discussion is continueing on here -
https://trans.info/en/there-s-a-europe-wide-hgv-driver-shortage-so-why-do-uk-supply-chains-seem-more-disrupted-254524
I'll be happy to post up the empty shelves that they sometimes have in my local supermarkets, with "not available" signs one the shelves, next time I'm in one1 -
About 1% of 8,380 petrol stations in the UK are believed to be closed.
And there is not a fuel shortage.
I hope all the idiot motorists in the queues at petrol stations get home and find that all their house insulation has been nicked.13 -
by the sounds of it they are all round here !Macronate said:About 1% of 8,380 petrol stations in the UK are believed to be closed.
And there is not a fuel shortage.
I hope all the idiot motorists in the queues at petrol stations get home and find that all their house insulation has been nicked.0 -
I’m willing to bet that 1% stat is now out of date. The forecourt might not be closed but if it hasn’t got any fuel it might just as well be.Macronate said:About 1% of 8,380 petrol stations in the UK are believed to be closed.
And there is not a fuel shortage.
I hope all the idiot motorists in the queues at petrol stations get home and find that all their house insulation has been nicked.1 -
Big_Bad_World said:
Surprised this hasn't been said yet, to be honest. It's well known that working conditions for HGV drivers is deemed as sub-par by pretty much all drivers. The shortage is a multi-faceted issue, as with most things, but reductionists will always scream the loudest.SE10Addick said:There is no shortage of HGV drivers in the UK.
There is/was a severe lack of drivers willing to do an often horrible job for £10 per hour.
The ONS [Offfice for National Statistics] has revealed that 12,000 HGV have left the UK up until June 2020 ,and returned to EU countries2 -
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Phew. If this is true thank gawd that's all over. I bet they can't wait to jack in their jobs and hurry back.
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The Shell garage near me has all pumps open and no queues... You'll have to drive to Southampton to fill up though.6
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“Lorry drivers currently do not meet the skills threshold to qualify for work visas in the UK under the government’s new points-based system”Bournemouth Addick said:Phew. If this is true thank gawd that's all over. I bet they can't wait to jack in their jobs and hurry back.
But remember, nothing to do with..
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Here we go again...1
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Absolutely. As I said, it's a multi-faceted issue.redashdave said:Big_Bad_World said:
Surprised this hasn't been said yet, to be honest. It's well known that working conditions for HGV drivers is deemed as sub-par by pretty much all drivers. The shortage is a multi-faceted issue, as with most things, but reductionists will always scream the loudest.SE10Addick said:There is no shortage of HGV drivers in the UK.
There is/was a severe lack of drivers willing to do an often horrible job for £10 per hour.
The ONS [Offfice for National Statistics] has revealed that 12,000 HGV have left the UK up until June 2020 ,and returned to EU countries1 -
Exactly this, nice to see we are in agreement today BBW.Big_Bad_World said:
Absolutely. As I said, it's a multi-faceted issue.redashdave said:Big_Bad_World said:
Surprised this hasn't been said yet, to be honest. It's well known that working conditions for HGV drivers is deemed as sub-par by pretty much all drivers. The shortage is a multi-faceted issue, as with most things, but reductionists will always scream the loudest.SE10Addick said:There is no shortage of HGV drivers in the UK.
There is/was a severe lack of drivers willing to do an often horrible job for £10 per hour.
The ONS [Offfice for National Statistics] has revealed that 12,000 HGV have left the UK up until June 2020 ,and returned to EU countries0 -
IanJRO said:
Before anyone starts about politics, this isn't a political stance it's just the facts of the matter!
Cast iron facts…..IanJRO said:
I don't know the ins and outsShootersHillGuru said:
Any idea why there hasn’t been an issue getting petrol to forecourts prior to this week ? I can’t work out why it’s suddenly an issue. The driver issue has been around for months.IanJRO said:Reason for this is a labour shortage caused by a combination of Covid and Brexit.
Ending FoM has screwed us when it comes to a ready supply of labour for lower paid jobs, combine this with increasing absenteeism due to the pandemic and it is causing problems across many industries.
Before anyone starts about politics, this isn't a political stance it's just the facts of the matter!0 -
Regardless of the myriad reasons that we have a shortage of HGV drivers, it remains that we need a solution. Relaxing of visa requirements is certainly one way of instant relief but I doubt a full solution. If there is a shortage accross the EU too then I’m guessing most of those drivers previously here would prefer to find work within the EU before looking outside, for reasons best not spoken about here. Longer term, pay and conditions are the only way to solve the shortage. Exactly the same solution as in nursing and care home professions. Brits won’t do shitty jobs without good remuneration. The upward pressure on prices is something we’ll perhaps need to get used to ?2
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You'll get different answers on the biggest cause, depending on who you ask.BR7_addick said:
Exactly this, nice to see we are in agreement today BBW.Big_Bad_World said:
Absolutely. As I said, it's a multi-faceted issue.redashdave said:Big_Bad_World said:
Surprised this hasn't been said yet, to be honest. It's well known that working conditions for HGV drivers is deemed as sub-par by pretty much all drivers. The shortage is a multi-faceted issue, as with most things, but reductionists will always scream the loudest.SE10Addick said:There is no shortage of HGV drivers in the UK.
There is/was a severe lack of drivers willing to do an often horrible job for £10 per hour.
The ONS [Offfice for National Statistics] has revealed that 12,000 HGV have left the UK up until June 2020 ,and returned to EU countries
Ask the drivers and the majority will say working conditions and low pay are putting people off.
Ask the bosses, who aren't keen on addressing the working condition and pay issues, and they'll say it's because of the pandemic and the word that shall not be uttered.5 -
My brother is returning from Liverpool on business. Queues there but got petrol at the services at £1.59 a litre. Queues not so large there!0
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