Diallang Jaiyesimi - page 17 Joins Wimbledon on loan

Leuth said:

Being slightly unfairly scapegoated imo - the vast majority of our problems this season have come down to central midfield and central midfield alone 

DOUCHER said:

thenewbie said:

DJ certainly hasn't covered himself in glory this season but very few have. Trying to work out whether he's just not very good or been left down by the constant tweaking of personnel/formation and a weak midfield is probably a chicken/egg situation - he's (probably) better than he's shown but by how much is debatable.

fair points but CBT doesn't seem to be hampered by these things 

CH4RLTON said:

The longer things pan out under this regime the more it’s becoming clear we are just signing young players with potential, ie deji and Kirk just for the sell on value without really looking at how they could fit into the team , square pegs in round holes is starting to spring to mind

Cafc43v3r said:

Dazzler21 said:

The algorithm highlights players, they're then fully scouted if the SLT is interested I believe. 

I am not being facetious but scouted by whom when?  Gallen mentioned when we signed Clare that he saw him play for Celtic.   I can't believe Thomas and Roddy took a couple of trips to Morecambe to run the rule over Lavelle. 

Cafc43v3r said:

Rothko said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Dazzler21 said:

The algorithm highlights players, they're then fully scouted if the SLT is interested I believe. 

I am not being facetious but scouted by whom when?  Gallen mentioned when we signed Clare that he saw him play for Celtic.   I can't believe Thomas and Roddy took a couple of trips to Morecambe to run the rule over Lavelle. 

The scouting network they've said they now got 

So it's highly likely that, of the four man committee, no one has actually seen some of them play in the flesh?  Unless they played against us? 

arny23394 said:

I’ve seen every game DJ has played, apart from Crewe, and the only time I’ve been impressed was the first half against MK Dons. They brought on 63 year old Dean Lewington for the second half and DJ didn’t do a thing after that.

Pre season, people were going on about how a front three of him, Washington & Stockley would tear this league apart. That would always make me laugh.

Scoham said:

CH4RLTON said:

The longer things pan out under this regime the more it’s becoming clear we are just signing young players with potential, ie deji and Kirk just for the sell on value without really looking at how they could fit into the team , square pegs in round holes is starting to spring to mind

Why are so many writing off players like Kirk?

He's made 3 starts for us, we've made a lot of signings, several of them late in the window. Some of them are still getting much fit and the manager needs to balance all of this with finding the right formation and best team. On top of that Kirk's recently lost his dad and moved to another part of the country. Kirk, Lavelle etc also need to step up to the increased expectations.

It's unlikely all signings will work out but it's far too early to decide they aren't good enough or don't fit the team.

DOUCHER said:

Scoham said:

CH4RLTON said:

The longer things pan out under this regime the more it’s becoming clear we are just signing young players with potential, ie deji and Kirk just for the sell on value without really looking at how they could fit into the team , square pegs in round holes is starting to spring to mind

Why are so many writing off players like Kirk?

He's made 3 starts for us, we've made a lot of signings, several of them late in the window. Some of them are still getting much fit and the manager needs to balance all of this with finding the right formation and best team. On top of that Kirk's recently lost his dad and moved to another part of the country. Kirk, Lavelle etc also need to step up to the increased expectations.

It's unlikely all signings will work out but it's far too early to decide they aren't good enough or don't fit the team.

i'm not writing Kirk off but do have a genuine doubt that DJ will come good 

Scoham said:

DOUCHER said:

Scoham said:

CH4RLTON said:

The longer things pan out under this regime the more it’s becoming clear we are just signing young players with potential, ie deji and Kirk just for the sell on value without really looking at how they could fit into the team , square pegs in round holes is starting to spring to mind

Why are so many writing off players like Kirk?

He's made 3 starts for us, we've made a lot of signings, several of them late in the window. Some of them are still getting much fit and the manager needs to balance all of this with finding the right formation and best team. On top of that Kirk's recently lost his dad and moved to another part of the country. Kirk, Lavelle etc also need to step up to the increased expectations.

It's unlikely all signings will work out but it's far too early to decide they aren't good enough or don't fit the team.

i'm not writing Kirk off but do have a genuine doubt that DJ will come good 

That’s fair enough, he’s been here since February. All our wingers have potential and we can’t be certain where they’ll end up.

I doubt anyone would have predicted that by the end of September many fans would be calling for CBT and Davison to start.

JamesSeed said:

DOUCHER said:

Sage said:

I get what you’re saying but let’s have a differing view on the flip side. I think he’s very coachable and can improve.

He’s strong for a wide man who is relatively small. He is actually very good with his back to goal, although it’s not something that we need or want him to do much. He needs more confidence and to whip in crosses when he gets half a yard rather than taking another touch and the chance goes, but that’s something he can improve on. 

He needs to work harder when out of possession, covering his full back more than he does, but again that is something that he can learn.

He has played in a midfield that has changed constantly and for much of the time has only had one striker to aim for and work with. There has been no movement in front of him or around him to create or do anything with. For much of the time he played with an immobile striker who won’t stretch a defence in the way DJ needs to be able to thrive.

I thought he was excellent against Crewe and seemed right up for it from the beginning. It’s interesting that the one time we played with 2 up front and DJ out wide, he done well. Washington’s movement helped him perform. I was hoping he would kick on, it hasn’t quite happened as he was really quite poor against Cheltenham. We haven’t seen him since.

One thing I don’t understand much is that we don’t swap our wingers anymore. If it’s not quite working on the right, try him out on the left for 10 minutes. He might get more joy that way.

He only turned 23 in May. Before last season he had never played above League Two. I think there is a player in there, he just needs the right coaching to bring it out and put it together and he could do well. That’s the big challenge for him now. 

he didn't have a good game against crewe but the goal somehow got him motm - he's got something - he can be explosive but everything he does is more by luck than judgement in my opinion and he will prove a bad signing - hope i'm wrong   

Players marks is the one feature of Charlton Life that produces a consensus ie it’s not the most forceful voices getting heard the most, it’s the overall opinions being totted up and forming a ranking. 

Almost every week I find the table reflects fairly closely my own view of who played well, and who didn’t. Yes, scoring a goal is never going to harm a players overall score, but to say ‘he didn't have a good game against crewe but the goal somehow got him MOTM’ is both glib and almost certainly wrong. 

Chunes said:

Curbs rates DJ

DOUCHER said:

JamesSeed said:

DOUCHER said:

Sage said:

I get what you’re saying but let’s have a differing view on the flip side. I think he’s very coachable and can improve.

He’s strong for a wide man who is relatively small. He is actually very good with his back to goal, although it’s not something that we need or want him to do much. He needs more confidence and to whip in crosses when he gets half a yard rather than taking another touch and the chance goes, but that’s something he can improve on. 

He needs to work harder when out of possession, covering his full back more than he does, but again that is something that he can learn.

He has played in a midfield that has changed constantly and for much of the time has only had one striker to aim for and work with. There has been no movement in front of him or around him to create or do anything with. For much of the time he played with an immobile striker who won’t stretch a defence in the way DJ needs to be able to thrive.

I thought he was excellent against Crewe and seemed right up for it from the beginning. It’s interesting that the one time we played with 2 up front and DJ out wide, he done well. Washington’s movement helped him perform. I was hoping he would kick on, it hasn’t quite happened as he was really quite poor against Cheltenham. We haven’t seen him since.

One thing I don’t understand much is that we don’t swap our wingers anymore. If it’s not quite working on the right, try him out on the left for 10 minutes. He might get more joy that way.

He only turned 23 in May. Before last season he had never played above League Two. I think there is a player in there, he just needs the right coaching to bring it out and put it together and he could do well. That’s the big challenge for him now. 

he didn't have a good game against crewe but the goal somehow got him motm - he's got something - he can be explosive but everything he does is more by luck than judgement in my opinion and he will prove a bad signing - hope i'm wrong   

Players marks is the one feature of Charlton Life that produces a consensus ie it’s not the most forceful voices getting heard the most, it’s the overall opinions being totted up and forming a ranking. 

Almost every week I find the table reflects fairly closely my own view of who played well, and who didn’t. Yes, scoring a goal is never going to harm a players overall score, but to say ‘he didn't have a good game against crewe but the goal somehow got him MOTM’ is both glib and almost certainly wrong. 

just before he scored, he fluffed a cross - it was the latest in a string of bad pieces of play from him that game - i and many others were calling for him to be hooked and had lost patience, albeit in the first half but it was off the back of many poor games  - he improved after the goal but i'm satisfied that overall he did not have a good game