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Adkins Out? - Match Thread
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Thomas already knows what he’s going to do. That might include giving Adkins a game or two to see if he can stop the rot or get rid now. One thing that is certain is that TS knows. If Adkins is to depart then certainly give it to Jason Euell while a proper recruitment process takes place. Jason can be part of that selection process if he does well. As much as I like JJ I think he’s been too close to too much failure. If Adkins leaves then sadly I think JJ should go too. Euell is slightly different. Very much the junior partner and until relatively recently not really involved with the first team. I’d give it to him with the carrot of permanent if he does well.se9addick said:
I doubt Euell would want it on a caretaker basis.Scoham said:
The fact you have to go back to the late 90s shows how rarely it happens.Ormiston_Addick said:For those arguing Curbs is not the answer worth remembering that Graham Taylor went back to Watford at the age of 52 and took them from League One to the Premier League in a couple of seasons.
If you give JJ and Euell a go as caretakers we can see if they get an instant reaction.
If Curbs comes in he’ll have to get plenty of time to turn it around. Imagine if he doesn’t and he oversees our first ever relegation to the fourth tier, in the season we named a stand after him.
We need to look back at the type of managers promotion winning clubs at this level have appointed. Most are on the younger side and look to play modern passing football, the way a lot of these players would have played in their academy sides.
I really hope the people who are in charge of drawing up the shortlist of candidates have a slightly broader view of the market than simply current employees.0 -
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.
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Come on Chris, we all know what happened, you don’t need to react to the troll.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
He finished 10th in the premier league.RonnieMoore said:
And remember how bad his football was in the last 12 months .. awful negative football went to West Ham and got found out big timeChris_from_Sidcup said:I get the clamour for Curbs but this is a guy who is 64 in a few weeks and hasn't managed for over 13 years. I love the guy, but personally for me after so long out of the game he isn't the answer.3 -
Same here. People on other social media gone all hostile towards TS as well, with the "not a penny more" type mentality.ShootersHillGuru said:
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.
Whoever does needs to go, I think it's worth keeping in mind that everything those at the Club are trying to do, is coming from a good place. There's nothing to suggest anyone is involved for the wrong reasons, unless you want to look at a couple of the players that is, who might be steeling a living at the moment18 -
What are the actual mechanics of a new manager turning a team around?. It’s the same talent he/she is working with1
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Pardon me for trying to inject a little humour into the general wrist-slitting.ShootersHillGuru said:
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.2 -
Nope it's just becoming abusive now. Especially on Social Media...ShootersHillGuru said:
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.1 -
I think changing the dynamics in anyway is needed and the manager is the obvious first stop to do that.KiwiValley said:What are the actual mechanics of a new manager turning a team around?. It’s the same talent he/she is working with
I don't think the team has a lot of confidence in Adkins, so among other things, someone with a bit more clout and charisma could possibly inspire the players more than the current set up. I think getting a "bigger name" in could achieve that easier than someone who first has to convince everyone (players mainly), that their wt is the best way.
If nothing else you'll get the bounce everyone speak of and get a few points under the belt.0 -
I really feel sorry for Adkins and wanted it to work but he has to go. It’s clearly not working.What worries me is I don’t think he is going to go today.If we loose on Saturday we could be 7 points adrift of relegation and we seriously can’t wait that long.TS needs to make a he call now. We are In serious shit.The players need a long hard look at themselves. Someone of them are taking this club for granted and need to take responsibility as well. Pisstakers3
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By all means have an opinion. That’s great but no need for that gif. Even those of us who want Adkins gone realise he’s a very decent bloke. Humour it ain’t.Sillybilly said:
Pardon me for trying to inject a little humour into the general wrist-slitting.ShootersHillGuru said:
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.7 - Sponsored links:
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The short term solution is easy but will never happen. Remove Adkins and Roddy. Replace them with JJ and Euell and Curbs. Get in a decent and proven CEO ( Varney would be ideal ). Use the time to either back the new management duo or seek an alternative.
For those that feel JJ is too tied to Adkins and what's happened, I'd point to his ongoing 100% record as manager when it's left to him.
More than that, other than when Adkins had Covid, we haven't heard a peep out of JJ. We see little of him on the touchline either. Why is that?
Can we seriously believe that this intelligent and passionate man agrees with Nigel's approach in recent weeks? I'm not having it.
I think he's the man for the job especially if backed with Euell and Curbs as I suggest.
Sadly, not even the Adkins going part may happen yet!
Oh dear, what a mess!2 -
Who coaches the defence ? I don’t know for certain and perhaps I’m off beam but our defence is appalling at present.Phil said:The short term solution is easy but will never happen. Remove Adkins and Roddy. Replace them with JJ and Euell and Curbs. Get in a decent and proven CEO ( Varney would be ideal ). Use the time to either back the new management duo or seek an alternative.
For those that feel JJ is too tied to Adkins and what's happened, I'd point to his ongoing 100% record as manager when it's left to him.
More than that, other than when Adkins had Covid, we haven't heard a peep out of JJ. We see little of him on the touchline either. Why is that?
Can we seriously believe that this intelligent and passionate man agrees with Nigel's approach in recent weeks? I'm not having it.
I think he's the man for the job especially if backed with Euell and Curbs as I suggest.
Sadly, not even the Adkins going part may happen yet!
Oh dear, what a mess!0 -
Depends on what the actual issues are. Is it a lack of respect from players to manager? Is it a lack of clarity and direction in what they are being asked to actually do? It could even be a lack of morale all round or some combination of all the above and other things besides.KiwiValley said:What are the actual mechanics of a new manager turning a team around?. It’s the same talent he/she is working with
This will in turn affect the potential solution. It might be that players benefit from a Bielsa/Bowyer style drill sergeant type of training to give them a kick up the arse. It might be they just need to go right back to basics a la Curbishley.
Whatever the answer is, its not whatever Adkins is doing.1 -
Reasons to slag off NA for what’s happening on the pitch = 738628
Reasons to slag off NA’s personality = 0
Lets not go all Millwall eh, but then again, as if Twitter will ever change.14 -
*insert Michael Appleton image*No seriously. Done wonders at Lincoln.3
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Hate to say it... Why would he want to come here.Swisdom said:*insert Michael Appleton image*No seriously. Done wonders at Lincoln.3 -
Least we know who wanted him out when he was Charlton ManagerTodds_right_hook said:
Come on Chris, we all know what happened, you don’t need to react to the troll.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
He finished 10th in the premier league.RonnieMoore said:
And remember how bad his football was in the last 12 months .. awful negative football went to West Ham and got found out big timeChris_from_Sidcup said:I get the clamour for Curbs but this is a guy who is 64 in a few weeks and hasn't managed for over 13 years. I love the guy, but personally for me after so long out of the game he isn't the answer.
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I don’t do Twatter - what’s being said and is it directed at TS ?Dazzler21 said:
Nope it's just becoming abusive now. Especially on Social Media...ShootersHillGuru said:
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.0 -
For the good of the club and probably Adkins mental well being he should move on to another club.0
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It’s crazy, parts of our fan base seem to want to use the same tactics we used against Roland & ESI in response to this situation, they seem to have lost all perspective.Gribbo said:
Same here. People on other social media gone all hostile towards TS as well, with the "not a penny more" type mentality.ShootersHillGuru said:
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.
Whoever does needs to go, I think it's worth keeping in mind that everything those at the Club are trying to do, is coming from a good place. There's nothing to suggest anyone is involved for the wrong reasons, unless you want to look at a couple of the players that is, who might be steeling a living at the moment4 - Sponsored links:
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There's a good squad of players here, the fault is that Adkins can't get a tune out of them or even a style of play which they should play. if the message from the manager is that broken, then it needs changing, and a new manager with a clear idea of how to play and can get that across, will do well with the players we've got.5
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this is the problem all names mentioned not one an improvement on NA … it’s no good giving it large about Adkins out if you can’t give a replacement who would do a better job .. there no one available in our range …. Do you really want Pulis Harris or Lennon ??
Mick McCarthy losing his job at Cardiff according to reports … ? But he on par with NA think NA record at this level is better
so there the problem sack NA for who .. unless TS can bring someone in who better then leave it as it is
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Feelings made vocal from the stands are enough.se9addick said:
It’s crazy, parts of our fan base seem to want to use the same tactics we used against Roland & ESI in response to this situation, they seem to have lost all perspective.Gribbo said:
Same here. People on other social media gone all hostile towards TS as well, with the "not a penny more" type mentality.ShootersHillGuru said:
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.
Whoever does needs to go, I think it's worth keeping in mind that everything those at the Club are trying to do, is coming from a good place. There's nothing to suggest anyone is involved for the wrong reasons, unless you want to look at a couple of the players that is, who might be steeling a living at the moment
No need for a protest that sandgaard won’t even see4 -
Most of the responses to TS are polite but increasingly despairing. There are, as with all social media, a few keyboard warriors throwing their toys but it's still largely respectful. TS' tweet last night of "We need to turn this around" seems more like one from a fan rather than someone in a position to do something about it all. It does make you wonder who is pulling the strings behind the scenes day to day.
I don’t do Twatter - what’s being said and is it directed at TS ?0 -
What’s humorous about a bloke with face paint on tapping his watch? Odd.Sillybilly said:
Pardon me for trying to inject a little humour into the general wrist-slitting.ShootersHillGuru said:
Really don’t think shit like this is very helpful or necessary.Sillybilly said:It’s time you clown, it’s time.5 -
We need to get this trending adkinsout0
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That's fair comment. We were told it's part of JJ's remit. However, I don't know for sure. However, given that the back four changes from game to game it must be nigh on impossible to do!ShootersHillGuru said:
Who coaches the defence ? I don’t know for certain and perhaps I’m off beam but our defence is appalling at present.Phil said:The short term solution is easy but will never happen. Remove Adkins and Roddy. Replace them with JJ and Euell and Curbs. Get in a decent and proven CEO ( Varney would be ideal ). Use the time to either back the new management duo or seek an alternative.
For those that feel JJ is too tied to Adkins and what's happened, I'd point to his ongoing 100% record as manager when it's left to him.
More than that, other than when Adkins had Covid, we haven't heard a peep out of JJ. We see little of him on the touchline either. Why is that?
Can we seriously believe that this intelligent and passionate man agrees with Nigel's approach in recent weeks? I'm not having it.
I think he's the man for the job especially if backed with Euell and Curbs as I suggest.
Sadly, not even the Adkins going part may happen yet!
Oh dear, what a mess!0 -
I want a young, dynamic manager with fresh ideas and a pleasing style of play. I have no idea off the top of my head who, I don't follow closely enough who is doing well and who their manager is and it's thankfully not my job to do so, but Duff has got Cheltenham up and they played nice football against us the other week but do they do that regularly or were we just crap making them look good I don't know, Bolton passed the ball nicely last night, played out from the back, created chances, took their goals well and for a promoted side are doing well so could Evatt be a possibility? Anyway, not a McCarthy or Harris etc etc.RonnieMoore said:this is the problem all names mentioned not one an improvement on NA … it’s no good giving it large about Adkins out if you can’t give a replacement who would do a better job .. there no one available in our range …. Do you really want Pulis Harris or Lennon ??
Mick McCarthy losing his job at Cardiff according to reports … ? But he on par with NA think NA record at this level is better
so there the problem sack NA for who .. unless TS can bring someone in who better then leave it as it is
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Hes still here as of 11am. When do owners normally sack managers, first thing in the morning or at midday?0
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