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2022 January transfer window thread - Non Charlton, other transfers (D Day p52)

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Cafc43v3r said:
    killerandflash said:
    With our shortage of strikers, I wonder if it would be worth Jacko playing 433 in the Pizza Cup game, both to surprise the opposition, but also to give some of the fringe players a chance, as that's the formation which Kirk was signed to play, and it would enable us to play just one striker, if Stockley is still out.

    If we're only going to play 352, then we might as well let Kirk go, as he doesn't fit the system
    Without Lavelle we don't have the players to play 4 at the back.  Which is almost as embarrassing as not having a 3rd proper striker, especially as the squad was put together to play 4 at the back. 
    Elerewe and Inniss?
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Young players have helped drag us out of this league before such as Cullen + Bielik. 

    Most of our 'better' loan players have been young, hungry players looking to make an impact: 

    See Cullen, Bielik, Purrington, Coquelin, Dasilva, Mavididi (before the injury), Gallagher.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Cafc43v3r said:
    killerandflash said:
    With our shortage of strikers, I wonder if it would be worth Jacko playing 433 in the Pizza Cup game, both to surprise the opposition, but also to give some of the fringe players a chance, as that's the formation which Kirk was signed to play, and it would enable us to play just one striker, if Stockley is still out.

    If we're only going to play 352, then we might as well let Kirk go, as he doesn't fit the system
    Without Lavelle we don't have the players to play 4 at the back.  Which is almost as embarrassing as not having a 3rd proper striker, especially as the squad was put together to play 4 at the back. 
    Purrington/Souare, Famewo, Inniss, Gunter on Tuesday? Famewo can't play against Norwich so might as well play this game
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    killerandflash said:
    With our shortage of strikers, I wonder if it would be worth Jacko playing 433 in the Pizza Cup game, both to surprise the opposition, but also to give some of the fringe players a chance, as that's the formation which Kirk was signed to play, and it would enable us to play just one striker, if Stockley is still out.

    If we're only going to play 352, then we might as well let Kirk go, as he doesn't fit the system
    Without Lavelle we don't have the players to play 4 at the back.  Which is almost as embarrassing as not having a 3rd proper striker, especially as the squad was put together to play 4 at the back. 
    Elerewe and Inniss?
    If Famewo can't play at the weekend I would play him and Elerewe against MK Dons but I wouldn't play that in a league game.  Is Inniss capable of even 45 minutes?

    You can't play Pearce in a 2, for the reasons Brownie said on Saturday better than I ever could.  I think Clare Lavelle Famewo Purrington would make a pretty good back 4 though.  But again you don't have proper cover for 3 of them. 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    eaststandmike said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
    He’s spent a fair amount on transfer fees since he’s been here, it’s a myth that we’re shopping for bargains because he hasn’t got the money. 

    I agree we probably won’t pay what Morecambe want for Stockton, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a healthy fee spent on a young player.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    killerandflash said:
    With our shortage of strikers, I wonder if it would be worth Jacko playing 433 in the Pizza Cup game, both to surprise the opposition, but also to give some of the fringe players a chance, as that's the formation which Kirk was signed to play, and it would enable us to play just one striker, if Stockley is still out.

    If we're only going to play 352, then we might as well let Kirk go, as he doesn't fit the system
    Without Lavelle we don't have the players to play 4 at the back.  Which is almost as embarrassing as not having a 3rd proper striker, especially as the squad was put together to play 4 at the back. 
    Elerewe and Inniss?
    If Famewo can't play at the weekend I would play him and Elerewe against MK Dons but I wouldn't play that in a league game.  Is Inniss capable of even 45 minutes?

    You can't play Pearce in a 2, for the reasons Brownie said on Saturday better than I ever could.  I think Clare Lavelle Famewo Purrington would make a pretty good back 4 though.  But again you don't have proper cover for 3 of them. 
    Those two along with Lavelle were our RCBs by the end of the window and Pearce our second choice LCB. Whether they’re good or fit enough is another issue, it’s not the same as saying we don’t have the players to play a back four.

    Who doesn’t count as proper cover for that back four? Gunter, Matthews and Souare?

    We’re probably agreeing our recruitment wasn’t good enough by we at least filled all positions in a 433/4231 with two or more players per position.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    ElliotCAFC said:
    eaststandmike said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
    He’s spent a fair amount on transfer fees since he’s been here, it’s a myth that we’re shopping for bargains because he hasn’t got the money. 

    I agree we probably won’t pay what Morecambe want for Stockton, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a healthy fee spent on a young player.
    You have answered your own question. He has spent a fair amount and from what he says in the press he does not intend to do every time the window opens.

    He is on record as saying we have one of the biggest, talented, and depth of squads in the league and I believe he now expects the management team to utilise them.

    We all know this is incorrect because of the dross we have in the squad but TS sees it differently 
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,665
    ElliotCAFC said:
    eaststandmike said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
    He’s spent a fair amount on transfer fees since he’s been here, it’s a myth that we’re shopping for bargains because he hasn’t got the money. 

    I agree we probably won’t pay what Morecambe want for Stockton, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a healthy fee spent on a young player.
    Stockton too similar to Stockley?
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    eaststandmike said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    eaststandmike said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
    He’s spent a fair amount on transfer fees since he’s been here, it’s a myth that we’re shopping for bargains because he hasn’t got the money. 

    I agree we probably won’t pay what Morecambe want for Stockton, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a healthy fee spent on a young player.
    You have answered your own question. He has spent a fair amount and from what he says in the press he does not intend to do every time the window opens.

    He is on record as saying we have one of the biggest, talented, and depth of squads in the league and I believe he now expects the management team to utilise them.

    We all know this is incorrect because of the dross we have in the squad but TS sees it differently 
    Perhaps someone should remind him that size isn't important....

    But quality over quantity IS.

    Here endeth TS's latest lesson :-)


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  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,698
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Marquis or Stockton (or neither) if you had to choose between which one to sign?
    Stockton all day long...wouldn't want Marquis playing for Charlton when he's such a twat.

    Tbh I think we would be his last resort with him being Millwall.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    killerandflash said:
    With our shortage of strikers, I wonder if it would be worth Jacko playing 433 in the Pizza Cup game, both to surprise the opposition, but also to give some of the fringe players a chance, as that's the formation which Kirk was signed to play, and it would enable us to play just one striker, if Stockley is still out.

    If we're only going to play 352, then we might as well let Kirk go, as he doesn't fit the system
    Without Lavelle we don't have the players to play 4 at the back.  Which is almost as embarrassing as not having a 3rd proper striker, especially as the squad was put together to play 4 at the back. 
    Elerewe and Inniss?
    If Famewo can't play at the weekend I would play him and Elerewe against MK Dons but I wouldn't play that in a league game.  Is Inniss capable of even 45 minutes?

    You can't play Pearce in a 2, for the reasons Brownie said on Saturday better than I ever could.  I think Clare Lavelle Famewo Purrington would make a pretty good back 4 though.  But again you don't have proper cover for 3 of them. 
    Those two along with Lavelle were our RCBs by the end of the window and Pearce our second choice LCB. Whether they’re good or fit enough is another issue, it’s not the same as saying we don’t have the players to play a back four.

    Who doesn’t count as proper cover for that back four? Gunter, Matthews and Souare?

    We’re probably agreeing our recruitment wasn’t good enough by we at least filled all positions in a 433/4231 with two or more players per position.
    Yeah we are agreeing.  We had 2 players for each position but I would question how fit (for purpose) they are/were.    I think the back 4 in the sense we can't have one, is the reason we are playing 3, the fact it's been so successful is a bonus. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    charlton_hero said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    eaststandmike said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
    He’s spent a fair amount on transfer fees since he’s been here, it’s a myth that we’re shopping for bargains because he hasn’t got the money. 

    I agree we probably won’t pay what Morecambe want for Stockton, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a healthy fee spent on a young player.
    Stockton too similar to Stockley?
    two letters 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Fanny Fanackapan said:
    eaststandmike said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    eaststandmike said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
    He’s spent a fair amount on transfer fees since he’s been here, it’s a myth that we’re shopping for bargains because he hasn’t got the money. 

    I agree we probably won’t pay what Morecambe want for Stockton, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a healthy fee spent on a young player.
    You have answered your own question. He has spent a fair amount and from what he says in the press he does not intend to do every time the window opens.

    He is on record as saying we have one of the biggest, talented, and depth of squads in the league and I believe he now expects the management team to utilise them.

    We all know this is incorrect because of the dross we have in the squad but TS sees it differently 
    Perhaps someone should remind him that size isn't important....

    But quality over quantity IS.

    Here endeth TS's latest lesson :-)


    That tripped off the tongue too easily, you must have said that to a few blokes Fanny  ;)

    Happy New Year x
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    TS hasn’t even spent all of the KAG sell on free yet. Not expecting anything of note this window.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    charlton_hero said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    eaststandmike said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
    He’s spent a fair amount on transfer fees since he’s been here, it’s a myth that we’re shopping for bargains because he hasn’t got the money. 

    I agree we probably won’t pay what Morecambe want for Stockton, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a healthy fee spent on a young player.
    Stockton too similar to Stockley?
    two letters 
    Three letters  ;)
  • RedJohn
    RedJohn Posts: 597
    Could we bring Doughty back?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    charlton_hero said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    eaststandmike said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stockton of Morecombe …. Think he would be perfect to get out of league one ….
    I get the feeling TS will not be spending the sort of money Stockton will cost. We will be shopping at Aldi’s again in this window 
    He’s spent a fair amount on transfer fees since he’s been here, it’s a myth that we’re shopping for bargains because he hasn’t got the money. 

    I agree we probably won’t pay what Morecambe want for Stockton, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a healthy fee spent on a young player.
    Stockton too similar to Stockley?
    Is that not a good thing? - I mean we didn't have Stockley on Saturday 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Maccn05 said:
    TS hasn’t even spent all of the KAG sell on free yet. Not expecting anything of note this window.
    I thought he said last year that the fees from Grant and Bonne would go back into the running of the club seeing we had no fans to produce any income. 
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  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    Marquis Is shite. Don’t want us to go anywhere near him 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    If you shop wisely at Aldi’s you can get much better stuff than at Waitrose.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    lots of good comments on here .. I agree with the idea that we will not get either promoted or relegated, so there is no urgent need for any short term (must strengthen now) thinking by our management group .. yes we could do with (i m o) at least 3 newbies and we don't know who will be gone in the summer .. to summarise, any new signings should be viewed as long term investments rather than short term stop gaps .. I'd love to see three or four newcomers this month, as long as they come in on longish term contracts
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Richard J said:
    Maccn05 said:
    John Marquis? Isn't he a self confessed Millwall fan who's had a fair few run in's with us over the years. Not sure that's a good fit.

    I have low expectations for this window based on assumed budget and availability but this season is dead so a couple of signings to bed in for next season would be great. I'll stick by Dempsey @ Gills

    I saw Mandron is being linked for a move, he did really well for Crewe last season and is a big mobile unit but has completely fallen off this season and the Gills striker Olivier would be a good swap in for Stockley.
    The biggest Millwall icon of all time Harry Cripps was also a key member of the 1974/75 Charlton Promotion team.

    If Marquis wanted to move back to South East London and was prepared to be part of a squad I would be happy to take him. 
    though he'd have to do a lot  better than missing open goals from 4 yards like he did at the Valley this season :)
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,031
    edited January 2022
    What are our short term, medium term and long term objectives?

    In the short term we need a few old heads to help us maintain a safe midtable position and assist in a promotion push next year. So I wouldn't be negative about a player in their late 20's / early 30's who would sign for 18 months or two and a half years. They would be for getting us out of L1. Not all of Powell's signings were regulars in the Championship. The likes of Danny Hollands and Matt Taylor were excellent L1 performers but were phased out at a higher level. Gary Doherty, Jason Euell, Paul Hayes and Andy Hughes added depth to the squad. Noone would say that they were bad signings. 

    The medium term are these 'projects'. I suggest we look at the best of L1 in the early to mid 20's. These players may have the potential to play higher. Dale Stephens and Rhoys Wiggins would be the examples here. 

    Long term I think it is the Academy which will be our salvation. After Brexit Brentford's model of utilising European leagues will be impossible to replicate. Category 1 status is vital. In the last half of the season I would like to see more youngsters either blooded or sent on loan. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,223
    seth plum said:
    If you shop wisely at Aldi’s you can get much better stuff than at Waitrose.
    Think a lot of people shop at Aldi but bring it home in a Waitrose bag.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    This is a pretty simple window imho. Not exactly fussed who we bring in, if anyone, on short term. For me the goal is survival, and once that's basically assured, play the kids and experiment a bit.

    I think we obviously need a forward to complement Washington and Stockley: don't mind if a permanent move happens now or in the summer, but a loan at the least would be prudent.

    A central midfield option that gives us either flexibility to play a 4-2-3-1/whatever pushes Lee forward is also on my list. A natural right-back, too, with Matthews injured and Gunter seemingly not in favour. (Or just a general defensive cover.)

    I don't want to see a splash of signings given it's January; I do want to see investment in youth, whether that is our own or nabbing other prospects where we can. 
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Maccn05 said:
    TS hasn’t even spent all of the KAG sell on free yet. Not expecting anything of note this window.
    Because the rest of the club is run on fresh air and positive thoughts? 
    Do you not get how this works? If it doesn’t support peoples narrative about TS then it can’t be mentioned..
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Maccn05 said:
    TS hasn’t even spent all of the KAG sell on free yet. Not expecting anything of note this window.
    Because the rest of the club is run on fresh air and positive thoughts? 
    Positive thoughts? Not likely with our salty, bitchy fanbase 👍🏼
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,754
    For me, the only people we should be bringing in this window are players who we want to be here next year. No point in a short term loan just for this season.

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