Grant McCann reportedly been sacked by Hull. New owners making their own appointment.
Apparently they're bringing in the ex-rangers striker Shota Arveladze, who hasn't managed since winning the league in Uzbekistan in December 2020.
Not a surprise, as it's been acknowledged all along that the new Turkish owners would bring in their own person, even if it's incredibly unfair on McCann who's going a great job at Hull
The only surprise is that the new guy is Georgian rather than Turkish, though he has played and managed in Turkey
Watford owners are mad. You can't just keep sacking manager after manager. Ranieri had the same players at his disposal as his predecessor. You could probably employ Klopp and the results would be the same.
Watford owners are mad. You can't just keep sacking manager after manager. Ranieri had the same players at his disposal as his predecessor. You could probably employ Klopp and the results would be the same.
As they say....you can't polish a turd.
Although it goes against everything that should build stability it is interesting that Watford have been successful during the last fifteen years.
After the young gun 70 year old Ranieri, left the building, Watford realize they need experience for 1 season and Croydon's own, 74 year old Roy Hodgson will take charge until the Spring season.
New ownership so not surprised. Harsh on Mccann however. Have had some really good results recently.
Shota Arveladze – the former Georgian international – will take McCann’s place as City head coach and will be in charge of his first game this weekend when the Tigers host Swansea City at the MKM Stadium.
He's played for Rangers and an assortment of Turkish and Dutch clubs as a successful striker .. BUT this is a very dodgy looking appointment, I don't know how or why, just feels dodgy i m o
New ownership so not surprised. Harsh on Mccann however. Have had some really good results recently.
Shota Arveladze – the former Georgian international – will take McCann’s place as City head coach and will be in charge of his first game this weekend when the Tigers host Swansea City at the MKM Stadium.
He's played for Rangers and an assortment of Turkish and Dutch clubs as a successful striker .. BUT this is a very dodgy looking appointment, I don't know how or why, just feels dodgy i m o
I know he won the league in Uzbekistan (with a team that's the equivalent of wining the Bundesliga with Bayern) but if he was any good why has he been unemployed since 2020?
Apparently Hodgson is now the sixth Watford manager since they last kept a Premier League clean sheet.
That's one of those stats that is a "wow" 'til you scratch beneath the surface. It's actually 31 PL games since they beat Liverpool 3-0 in Feb 2020 - that is, admittedly, a very poor defensive run but so far as the longevity of that run is concerned they were in the Championship for a year and one of those Managers was Hayden Mullins who was caretaker for a month. Using the same measure, it could be argued that we had 10 Managers in the 33 month period between March 2014 and November 2016. Other clubs would have been saying the same about us as we do about Watford. And they would have been correct in doing so of course.
Even more remarkable, in my opinion, than that the 3-0 defeat of Liverpool being Watford's last clean sheet for 31 PL games is the fact that it was Liverpool's first defeat for 44 PL matches - in a season in which Liverpool won the PL by a massive 18 points and Watford were relegated.
A tale of two clubs less than 20 miles apart geographically - both in dire trouble early season - one that sacked their Manager and one that didn't:
Nottingham Forest - sacked Chris Hughton following a disastrous start that left them bottom with one point from their first seven games. Since then Forest have taken, under Steve Cooper, 42 points from 21 games and are just one point off the Play Offs
Mansfield Town - after 14 games they were joint bottom with just 11 points and were on a winless run of 12 games too. Mansfield stuck with Nigel Clough and have been on an incredible run that has seen them win 10 of their last 11 matches - they are now in the Play Offs and just three points off automatic promotion with two games in hand
I backed both of these pre season on the handicap markets on the basis of that I thought both Hughton and Clough were good Managers. Despite their runs, I am unlikely to win with either and have to admit I got Hughton wrong - he was just too negative. But Clough, yet again, has proved that the acorn didn't fall far from the tree. I wanted him to be our Manager at one point but it seems he is unwilling to move far from home given that he has managed at Sheffield, Burton (twice), Derby and now Mansfield for a total of 1,135 matches in 22 years - and unlike his Dad most of them out of the limelight too
The moral of the story - some Managers know what they are doing and are the right fit for a club. If you stick with them they will come through eventually. As did Lennie and Curbs for us.
A tale of two clubs less than 20 miles apart geographically - both in dire trouble early season - one that sacked their Manager and one that didn't:
Nottingham Forest - sacked Chris Hughton following a disastrous start that left them bottom with one point from their first seven games. Since then Forest have taken, under Steve Cooper, 42 points from 21 games and are just one point off the Play Offs
Mansfield Town - after 14 games they were joint bottom with just 11 points and were on a winless run of 12 games too. Mansfield stuck with Nigel Clough and have been on an incredible run that has seen them win 10 of their last 11 matches - they are now in the Play Offs and just three points off automatic promotion with two games in hand
I backed both of these pre season on the handicap markets on the basis of that I thought both Hughton and Clough were good Managers. Despite their runs, I am unlikely to win with either and have to admit I got Hughton wrong - he was just too negative. But Clough, yet again, has proved that the acorn didn't fall far from the tree. I wanted him to be our Manager at one point but it seems he is unwilling to move far from home given that he has managed at Sheffield, Burton (twice), Derby and now Mansfield for a total of 1,135 matches in 22 years - and unlike his Dad most of them out of the limelight too
The moral of the story - some Managers know what they are doing and are the right fit for a club. If you stick with them they will come through eventually. As did Lennie and Curbs for us.
Great post AA. I've thought about Clough too over the years. There can't be many in the current era (where managers are sacked so readily never to be seen again) that have had such a long run of being in management for consecutive seasons. I was also impressed when he rather selflessly resigned from Burton at the end of the first pandemic affected season to assist the club's finances.
A tale of two clubs less than 20 miles apart geographically - both in dire trouble early season - one that sacked their Manager and one that didn't:
Nottingham Forest - sacked Chris Hughton following a disastrous start that left them bottom with one point from their first seven games. Since then Forest have taken, under Steve Cooper, 42 points from 21 games and are just one point off the Play Offs
Mansfield Town - after 14 games they were joint bottom with just 11 points and were on a winless run of 12 games too. Mansfield stuck with Nigel Clough and have been on an incredible run that has seen them win 10 of their last 11 matches - they are now in the Play Offs and just three points off automatic promotion with two games in hand
I backed both of these pre season on the handicap markets on the basis of that I thought both Hughton and Clough were good Managers. Despite their runs, I am unlikely to win with either and have to admit I got Hughton wrong - he was just too negative. But Clough, yet again, has proved that the acorn didn't fall far from the tree. I wanted him to be our Manager at one point but it seems he is unwilling to move far from home given that he has managed at Sheffield, Burton (twice), Derby and now Mansfield for a total of 1,135 matches in 22 years - and unlike his Dad most of them out of the limelight too
The moral of the story - some Managers know what they are doing and are the right fit for a club. If you stick with them they will come through eventually. As did Lennie and Curbs for us.
The big mystery was why Mansfield started the season so badly, as Clough turned things around there last season when he joined them, and is a top manager, certainly in lower league football.
New ownership so not surprised. Harsh on Mccann however. Have had some really good results recently.
Everyone knows why he was sacked, which was nothing to do with how well he had done. I'm sure he'll get another job soon
Other than the new owners wanting to bring in their own man, was there some other reason why?
No, I was just referring to the fact that all along they've always wanted their own man, so results on the pitch were largely irrelevant in McCann's sacking
Indeed it wouldn't surprise me if the results got worse unless they can drastically improve the squad in the last few days of the window, as I imagine there would have been great "them against us" bond between McCann and the players
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McCoist jokingly asked him if he would want the job, and Warnock said every manager would want the job as you get a nice payoff after 3 months !!
The only surprise is that the new guy is Georgian rather than Turkish, though he has played and managed in Turkey
Watford have done it again.
As they say....you can't polish a turd.
Although it goes against everything that should build stability it is interesting that Watford have been successful during the last fifteen years.
I am curious why this is?
Christmas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60127002
New ownership so not surprised. Harsh on Mccann however. Have had some really good results recently.
He's played for Rangers and an assortment of Turkish and Dutch clubs as a successful striker .. BUT this is a very dodgy looking appointment, I don't know how or why, just feels dodgy i m o
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/24/roy-hodgson-warns-disgraceful-harry-the-hornet-over-diving-antics
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60135020
Even more remarkable, in my opinion, than that the 3-0 defeat of Liverpool being Watford's last clean sheet for 31 PL games is the fact that it was Liverpool's first defeat for 44 PL matches - in a season in which Liverpool won the PL by a massive 18 points and Watford were relegated.
Nottingham Forest - sacked Chris Hughton following a disastrous start that left them bottom with one point from their first seven games. Since then Forest have taken, under Steve Cooper, 42 points from 21 games and are just one point off the Play Offs
Mansfield Town - after 14 games they were joint bottom with just 11 points and were on a winless run of 12 games too. Mansfield stuck with Nigel Clough and have been on an incredible run that has seen them win 10 of their last 11 matches - they are now in the Play Offs and just three points off automatic promotion with two games in hand
I backed both of these pre season on the handicap markets on the basis of that I thought both Hughton and Clough were good Managers. Despite their runs, I am unlikely to win with either and have to admit I got Hughton wrong - he was just too negative. But Clough, yet again, has proved that the acorn didn't fall far from the tree. I wanted him to be our Manager at one point but it seems he is unwilling to move far from home given that he has managed at Sheffield, Burton (twice), Derby and now Mansfield for a total of 1,135 matches in 22 years - and unlike his Dad most of them out of the limelight too
The moral of the story - some Managers know what they are doing and are the right fit for a club. If you stick with them they will come through eventually. As did Lennie and Curbs for us.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60139354
Hopefully your bets come off too.
Indeed it wouldn't surprise me if the results got worse unless they can drastically improve the squad in the last few days of the window, as I imagine there would have been great "them against us" bond between McCann and the players