Charlton Only - January 2022 Transfer Rumours (Deadline Day p.97)

Scoham said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Exiled_Addick said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Scoham said:

For comparison Lee has created more chances (44) and has a higher chances per 90 at 1.76 minutes https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/charlton-athletic/top-scorers/assists

TBF to Lee his weakness are amplified by others as much as himself.

If someone else could take free kicks and corners that fact he can't wouldn't matter.  If our strikers finished more of the chances he did given them it would be enough.

It's endemic in the club no one person, or thing, is either THE problem nor THE solution. 

Lee has become a lighting rod for some of our more critical fans. No one can argue he's been in top form recently, but he's been nowhere near as bad as some people are making out. He's still creating chances in matches. Still getting shots away. He looks every bit a decent player in a form rut, rather than simply a bad player.

Confidence is so fragile in our entire team and has been for a long time now - no better characterized than how much we struggle if we concede first and how much better our results are if we score first. A bit more belief and old fashioned grit could transform this side because, whatever some say, we do have above average talent in the squad for this level.

We do have a talent squad but we don't have the things that make a good team.  The fire in the belly was put their by them wanting Jackson to get the job.  It's now gone, again.  Two players like Mark Kinsella would make the world of difference.  The want to win AND the real want to improve.  It would have a knock on effect on some of the others. 

Cullen, Beilik/Gallagher and like it or not Taylor made a massive difference not only in what they brought in terms of quality but attitude.  Aribo, Dijksteel, Sarr and even BFG, Pratley, Matthews and Pearce were sort of dragged along with them.  We don't have those things now.  It shows. 

Lee isn't as good as some claimed or as bad as some are now claiming. 

What you're saying is we're missing those star players who lift the whole team up a level.

Bowyer had Cullen, Bielik/Gallagher and Taylor as you say. Powell had Yann supported by several others.

This team doesn't really have that - Dobson and Stockley are very important but they need help.

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

We’re playing the media game. We want two players really….a new number 8 (Fraser)…& a new number 10 (Szmodics).

When top proven league one players become available on a perm then you have to buy them.

Sandgaard wants Prem in 3.5 years and knows he needs to upgrade more than one position to get out of L1.

Once the clock strikes 11pm, we’re gonna blow this league away.

SDAddick said:

StrikerFirmani said:

Scoham said:

Ipswich fans on Fraser https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/529223/2nd-charlton-bid-for-fraser

Created 31 chances for Ipswich, more than any other player, though it probably includes set pieces https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/ipswich-town/top-scorers/assists

Having read that and the other links posted it seems the question marks are over his fitness, work rate, athleticism etc. However any creative CM at this level is going to lack something in their game, perhaps alongside two mobile energetic players in Dobson and Gilbey (or John?) we'll have a good balance and will be able to support a player like Fraser. The player in that role needs to produce more than Lee has been.

If Castillo settles in well having pace and more of a threat (other than attacking the far post) than Purrington will make a difference too. As will having Chuks up front over Davison or Leko.

Isn't this a problem we have already in our midfield ?  I would prefer we signed a midfielder that has those traits, with some pace and ability to take the opposition on and open them up. 

Gilbey has a fantastic engine. Dobson is quite mobile for a holding/sitting player. And Lee covers a decent amount of ground for a playmaker/#10. Even Morgan's workrate is decent these days. I don't think their issue is a lack of mobility. I think sometimes it's a lack of technical ability or tactical nous to find space off the ball. 

Fraser is a tough one because he was there in the summer but we didn't get him. Plus, we did have a not particularly mobile playmaker in Shinnie, who we let go (though he is about five years older, and it's hard to see where he would have fit in Adkins' 4-2-3-1). This window does have a feeling of correcting mistakes we made in the summer. Which, hey, better late than never. But still frustrating.

I'm also a bit gutted we pulled out of a deal for Marcus Browne. Obviously there's a risk signing a player off of an ACL injury, but the bits I saw and read about him he seems to have a very high upside, especially at our level. He's one that, because he's coming back from injury, we may only have a shot at signing now. My bigger concern for him was where he would play in our system. But he seemed to have the technical ability and pace to be a game changer. 

Fraser looked very good against us last season. And might turn into a decent signing, and is probably lower risk than Browne (and yes they do play different positions so it's a bit apples and oranges). But I don't think he has Brown's ceiling. 

Happy Valley said:

addick1956 said:

thenewbie said:

addick1956 said:

thenewbie said:

addick1956 said:

Plaaayer said:

Fuck off twat Plaaayer. You do realise this is bullying  now and I shall make this a complaint. 

So , what is it to do with you ? 

Perfectly describes you , knuckle headed bullying Coward.

If 1956 is your year of birth, that puts you the same age as me.  I hope I haven't developed a humour bypass.

ButtleJR said:

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/42043/loanee-coulson-to-return-to-boro?s=09

Little bit in this on Fraser. Apparently the bid exceeds what Ipswich paid in the summer...

Redrobo said:

When the window opened we were looking to bring in two and possibly three players.
Burstow has displaced Davison and we have added Chucks. We have bought in a left wing back who is out of contract in the summer so if he does well we may be able to make permanent. The extra one is an exciting youngster who looks destined for the Spurs 1st team in the near future.
Overall a good January window.

Now we after a fourth and yet some are saying it is another disaster. If we do manage to get one of the two suggested targets on a permanent it will change a good window to a fantastic window IMO.
We are edging towards having a squad of players that are actually our players which is good.

Scoham said:

Redrobo said:

When the window opened we were looking to bring in two and possibly three players.
Burstow has displaced Davison and we have added Chucks. We have bought in a left wing back who is out of contract in the summer so if he does well we may be able to make permanent. The extra one is an exciting youngster who looks destined for the Spurs 1st team in the near future.
Overall a good January window.

Now we after a fourth and yet some are saying it is another disaster. If we do manage to get one of the two suggested targets on a permanent it will change a good window to a fantastic window IMO.
We are edging towards having a squad of players that are actually our players which is good.

Many won’t be happy until they see consistent results and performances on the pitch, regardless of any signings made. That means winning promotion from this league and then competing in the Championship (not saying that’s right or wrong).