Sorry but Jackson has to go.

Scoham said:

TS himself said 2-5 permanent and 5 or 6 loans so that’s a minimum of 7 signings. It’s enough to make a big difference in results even if we’d like to hear something more ambitious.

MuttleyCAFC said:

I don't like the concept of squad fillers. 

RickAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

The Sandgaard discussion is interesting. I don’t think for one minute his Charlton heart isn’t in the right place. It’s also worth remembering that when he bought us that the heart, guts and soul had been ripped out of the club over a period of years. There was no management structure of note in place and the club was functioning week to week and desperate. There was no CEO in situ and not too much to build on. TS should have made appointing a CEO his number one priority but his naivety and perhaps enthusiasm got the better of him. We’re now still if not rudderless certainly not 100% focused on direction. The appointments behind the scenes of Roddy and Mumford have been mixed and in the short time TS has owned the club he’s had three managers. It seems to me not much is stable and that’s what’s needed. Stability, front and back of house. I don’t see either happening quickly enough to give me encouragement for next season. We really need a hands on CEO to get things right. TS lacks the football nous and he can’t do that job from Colorado. Give Jackson support this summer and a run at next season but should that fail and he’s replaced I’d take surgery to more than just JJ and put in place a total revamp of the club’s management structures. I think another season of disappointing results might be needed to convince Thomas.

Some valid points here, Shooters.
But if TS had appointed a CEO on Day 1, who would he have gone to for advice?
Roddy seemed to have fingers in many Charlton pies at the start of Sandguaard's reign, but the wheels of Roddy's empire seem to have fallen off, with GR now relegated to a relatively minor role.
If TS had sought advice from the wrong person in appointing a CEO, we could have had another member of staff on the 'clear out' list. And be in the same or a worse position as we are now.
Sandgaard clearly needs advice from football people to succeed, but has to chose very carefully who he can trust to provide that advice. Which may provide one reason why is son is involved.
With the skakes gaining in height, Sandgaard is not in a very enviable position, imo.

Gribbo said:

RickAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

The Sandgaard discussion is interesting. I don’t think for one minute his Charlton heart isn’t in the right place. It’s also worth remembering that when he bought us that the heart, guts and soul had been ripped out of the club over a period of years. There was no management structure of note in place and the club was functioning week to week and desperate. There was no CEO in situ and not too much to build on. TS should have made appointing a CEO his number one priority but his naivety and perhaps enthusiasm got the better of him. We’re now still if not rudderless certainly not 100% focused on direction. The appointments behind the scenes of Roddy and Mumford have been mixed and in the short time TS has owned the club he’s had three managers. It seems to me not much is stable and that’s what’s needed. Stability, front and back of house. I don’t see either happening quickly enough to give me encouragement for next season. We really need a hands on CEO to get things right. TS lacks the football nous and he can’t do that job from Colorado. Give Jackson support this summer and a run at next season but should that fail and he’s replaced I’d take surgery to more than just JJ and put in place a total revamp of the club’s management structures. I think another season of disappointing results might be needed to convince Thomas.

Some valid points here, Shooters.
But if TS had appointed a CEO on Day 1, who would he have gone to for advice?
Roddy seemed to have fingers in many Charlton pies at the start of Sandguaard's reign, but the wheels of Roddy's empire seem to have fallen off, with GR now relegated to a relatively minor role.
If TS had sought advice from the wrong person in appointing a CEO, we could have had another member of staff on the 'clear out' list. And be in the same or a worse position as we are now.
Sandgaard clearly needs advice from football people to succeed, but has to chose very carefully who he can trust to provide that advice. Which may provide one reason why is son is involved.
With the skakes gaining in height, Sandgaard is not in a very enviable position, imo.

He resigned mate. Now works for FIFA 

FAVADDICK said:

Scoham said:

FAVADDICK said:

th0rryy said:

I am still pro Jackson.

I think that the alternatives would be, overall, expensive for any actual benefit and that spend could be better spent on improving the squad. Whilst JJ is comparatively inexperienced, he inherited a squad that was not one that was built and set up for his current tactical system. The glimpses that this squad has shown (and it's a hugely underperforming one, which I do blame the players more than the management) against the better sides in this division, I think, that it would serve us better going forward. JJ has also shown he can motivate players to play for the shirt, and with some astute signings, we can start pushing on with this system.

Most of this squad went from the LB diamond to w/e NA tried to the JJ 5-3-2. Many of them are not very football smart. They don't, for example, cover the space behind CB-T when he pushes forward. They don't defend the edge of the box well at all. They don't tackle nearly enough when teams run at them, aside from Dobson. Some of this can be trained, but a lot of this is just weak footballing brains of certain players. JJ deserves a summer of getting a number of players in to play the way he wants. The sporadic results make me doubt it when I am sat there when we are 0-2 at home against relegation-threatened, f***ing Morecambe, but when you sit and think about it, we got schooled by arguably one of the best strikers in the league and punished by some more clinical finishing. Mistakes and defensive stability has been a problem all season - again, I think this is more the players than the management, particularly in the last few months when there are several players out there who simply don't care. You can't train a dog who has no desire to learn.

JJ has done enough to earn a summer and money to spend. Replacing him now/soon would be incredibly reckless. This season has been a write-off, albeit for the mild positives of Dobson and CB-T. We won't have the rebuild of yesteryear, but a few key signings could turn the ship. It's all about next season now and setting us up for success. If JJ has a poor first 10 games next season, then we're arguably in the same boat as now, but he is deserving of a chance. He bleeds Charlton, and that goes a hell of a long way for me.

Absolutely no guarantee that we bring in another manager that all our problems are solved. The core of our issues lie in the squad. Have a little faith.

You say he inherited a squad that don't fit his system, then surly you play a system that fits the players you have, that's not rocket science 

I would love to know what players he's motivated as I don't see any off that on the pitch !!!

And everything you have put in that second paragraph is down to training and the management, you can except the odd mistake but when there happening week in week out something isn't right, most goals against us come from down the wings like you stated, then surly you train to stop that or atleast revert to a formation that stops that, but not us we carry on playing it letting every team we play straight the way through us. 

Yeah Jackson is charlton I understand that, but he just isn't cut out to be a manager and there is alot better out there, that if we funded properly we could go far with !!!!

Far too early to write him off as a manager. Some said the same about Powell but we kept him on and won the league. Not saying Jackson will do the same or that TS will support him as much as he needs to, but Jackson shouldn’t be written off. He’s managing a squad that isn’t good enough to be promoted, we need a fairly big rebuild in the summer.

Do you trust him with a big rebuild, going on the January transfer window, who's going to trust him with any loans the way the 2 have been treated, and thats where we rely on most, all we're going to get is dead wood nobody else wants !!!

Airman Brown said:

Gribbo said:

RickAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

The Sandgaard discussion is interesting. I don’t think for one minute his Charlton heart isn’t in the right place. It’s also worth remembering that when he bought us that the heart, guts and soul had been ripped out of the club over a period of years. There was no management structure of note in place and the club was functioning week to week and desperate. There was no CEO in situ and not too much to build on. TS should have made appointing a CEO his number one priority but his naivety and perhaps enthusiasm got the better of him. We’re now still if not rudderless certainly not 100% focused on direction. The appointments behind the scenes of Roddy and Mumford have been mixed and in the short time TS has owned the club he’s had three managers. It seems to me not much is stable and that’s what’s needed. Stability, front and back of house. I don’t see either happening quickly enough to give me encouragement for next season. We really need a hands on CEO to get things right. TS lacks the football nous and he can’t do that job from Colorado. Give Jackson support this summer and a run at next season but should that fail and he’s replaced I’d take surgery to more than just JJ and put in place a total revamp of the club’s management structures. I think another season of disappointing results might be needed to convince Thomas.

Some valid points here, Shooters.
But if TS had appointed a CEO on Day 1, who would he have gone to for advice?
Roddy seemed to have fingers in many Charlton pies at the start of Sandguaard's reign, but the wheels of Roddy's empire seem to have fallen off, with GR now relegated to a relatively minor role.
If TS had sought advice from the wrong person in appointing a CEO, we could have had another member of staff on the 'clear out' list. And be in the same or a worse position as we are now.
Sandgaard clearly needs advice from football people to succeed, but has to chose very carefully who he can trust to provide that advice. Which may provide one reason why is son is involved.
With the skakes gaining in height, Sandgaard is not in a very enviable position, imo.

He resigned mate. Now works for FIFA 

Think you’ll find he has the same FIFA role he’s had since before he worked at Charlton. He was removed.

Callumcafc said:

Airman Brown said:

Braziliance said:

Airman Brown said:

Scoham said:

Airman Brown said:

I think TS caused the recruitment issues so the question may be how much he has learnt from that.

And what do you believe the main issues were? We know we're not the highest paying club when it comes to agents, especially for our relative size in this league.

Naivety about the market and belief he could buck it. One thing I was told early on was that the big PL clubs would not loan to Charlton because of TS not wanting to contribute enough.

Good for Thomas. You don’t need premier league youths to get out of this league and I respect him for standing firm on contributions if that is the case. 

If we are gonna develop their players with competitive football why should we be putting up significant wages. Football pyramid scheme is shite atm and he should be applauded for that stance, providing he strengthens us with our own contracted players who are competitive enough 

I think you’re missing the point. It wasn’t that we didn’t want Premier League loans, it was that we thought we could get them cheaper than the clubs expected. So we didn’t get them.

I don’t disagree that the system stinks, but you can’t wish it away, just as you can’t fill the ground or break even just by insisting you can. You have to engage with the real world.

Is this new? Did we pay for the loans of Cullen, Gallagher, Bielik? Going further back, would we have paid for Mavididi and DaSilva?

My impression is probably clouded by video games (thank you Football Manager) but usually these clubs just need to get their young players first team experience so making a payment towards that loan does seem weird from the outside looking in.

Is the idea perhaps that if we are paying a contribution towards their wage or a loan fee then we are more likely to play them? Or are these multi million pound profit making clubs really that hard up that they need an extra $1k per week for their 20 year olds?

Are we charging Wealdstone a fee for Aaron Henry? Billericay for Dylan Gavin?

thetomahawkkid said:

Jackson may not have been in charge for the whole season, but he has been part of the coaching staff for several years and so is clearly part of the problem. There is no doubt he is Charlton through and through, but I think he lacks sufficient experience to get us promoted next season. If we are prepared to wait another year then give him longer, but if we want to get promoted next season, sadly, I don't think he is the answer - not sure who is though.