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Another Shooting In America?

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Ted Cruz is a complete wanker.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Just saw a Facebook post shared by my cousin who lives in Canada. Huge list of schools where there's been a shooting. Looked up a full list on Wikipedia, there are two articles with too many to count, one for 21st century, one 20th and earlier.

    They tend to have several every month. Last month without one was July 2021.

    Horrendous. And yet so many Americas wouldn't even entertain the idea of just restricting the type of guns that can be easily purchased.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(before_2000)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,963
    Ted Cruz is a complete wanker.
    If my kid had just been shot, I'd want to put one right between that fuckers eyes.
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    Just seen on the news that the husband of one of the teachers who was killed, suffered a cardiac arrest and died today when visiting her memorial. They leave behind 4 children. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    edited December 2022
    Ted Cruz is a C***
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Saw a few clips on the news earlier. Some woman still spouting the "it's not guns that kill people..   its people who kill people".

    Immediately thought of the Monty Python sketch where John Cleese is the army officer training his men how to disarm someone with a piece of fruit. Michael Palin runs at him with a banana & John Cleese pulls our a revolver & shoots him dead. 

    GUNS KILL YOU FUCKING MORON. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    MrOneLung said:

    more guns is the answer.

    If they allowed 7 year olds to be armed, they could have prevented such a high loss of life.

    I hear they are again talking about arming teachers.

    The fucking armed police didnt even want to go in there.

    Fucking stupid people. Should just let them all shoot each other. 

    The Purge is getting closer.


  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Everyone that supports the right to bear arms in that country is complicit in murder.  
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Biden pleading that things have got to stop.

    YOU'RE THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.  DRAW UP A BILL BANNING GUNS TOMORROW YOU FUCKING IDIOT  
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Biden pleading that things have got to stop.

    YOU'RE THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.  DRAW UP A BILL BANNING GUNS TOMORROW YOU FUCKING IDIOT  
    He’s hamstrung Golfie.  50/50 in the senate and the U.S system makes it very hard for Presidents to pass laws in general 
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  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,575
    Biden pleading that things have got to stop.

    YOU'RE THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.  DRAW UP A BILL BANNING GUNS TOMORROW YOU FUCKING IDIOT  
    You can’t pass a law to take away someone’s constitutional rights - you have to pass an amendment to the constitution and that is not going to happen. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    I'm sorry to say that Americans deserve politicians like him. 


  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    cabbles said:
    Everyone that supports the right to bear arms in that country is complicit in murder.  
    I'm sorry to say that Americans deserve politicians like him. 


    I'm sorry to say that Americans deserve politicians like him. 


    Clearly the interviewer is scoring political points here. And Cruz is not speaking enough for the families involved in this terrible tragedy. 

    It is factually incorrect to say that schoolchildren are ONLY ever murdered by gunmen in America. Fulani Herdsmen anyone?Torching whole schools and kidnapping and raping (and "converting") 500 school girls.  Bombing Ukraine playschools anyone?  

    I won't even open the can of worms that is killing the unborn. The most vulnerable of all humans. 

    Perhaps barbaric computer games are not the SINGLE contributing factor to school shootings. But they clearly are not GOOD for anyone. So let us withdraw them. And movies of this type too. 

    And let us look at the factors that may lead to someone having such warped perception of reality that may lead to this tragedy. It is the responsibility of all of us to create a world where young people have a purpose, goal and values that are life-giving not life-destroying. 

    I can't imagine what these families are going through. It is a grief of a magnitude that is beyond thinking. I pray and hope that political point scoring takes a back seat and everyone really focuses on what makes life worth living for young people in this age. The gun licensing debate needs discussion for sure. As does mental health and a disintegrated  society which no longer has family values and faith and the faith community to give our children the very best start and support. 


  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    edited May 2022
    So there is an annual meeting of the NRA this weekend, being held in Houston (in Texas where there is an open carry gun rule). Trump is a guest speaker.

    Guess what? Guns are banned.

    You couldn't make it up. They won't push to ban guns anywhere else, but they will at their own meetings. This doesn't appear to be a new thing either, they ban them at most of their meetings. Quite ironic if guns are so safe.

    Surely they could just hold the meeting at a venue where there is just one door, and have a couple of security guards sat there.......
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,220
    Bette Midler is on a tweeting rampage this morning. The amount of money these politicians receive from the NRA Shows how hopeless the situation is. So Screwed up.

    https://twitter.com/bettemidler/status/1529995745801084928?s=21&t=l5JC313VWsN_p9oslFuH2A
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    They have 4 children.  That’s four kids who have lost both parents, tragically, in the space of a couple of days.
    😢
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    cabbles said:
    Everyone that supports the right to bear arms in that country is complicit in murder.  
    I'm sorry to say that Americans deserve politicians like him. 


    I'm sorry to say that Americans deserve politicians like him. 


    Clearly the interviewer is scoring political points here. And Cruz is not speaking enough for the families involved in this terrible tragedy. 

    It is factually incorrect to say that schoolchildren are ONLY ever murdered by gunmen in America. Fulani Herdsmen anyone?Torching whole schools and kidnapping and raping (and "converting") 500 school girls.  Bombing Ukraine playschools anyone?  

    I won't even open the can of worms that is killing the unborn. The most vulnerable of all humans. 

    Perhaps barbaric computer games are not the SINGLE contributing factor to school shootings. But they clearly are not GOOD for anyone. So let us withdraw them. And movies of this type too. 

    And let us look at the factors that may lead to someone having such warped perception of reality that may lead to this tragedy. It is the responsibility of all of us to create a world where young people have a purpose, goal and values that are life-giving not life-destroying. 

    I can't imagine what these families are going through. It is a grief of a magnitude that is beyond thinking. I pray and hope that political point scoring takes a back seat and everyone really focuses on what makes life worth living for young people in this age. The gun licensing debate needs discussion for sure. As does mental health and a disintegrated  society which no longer has family values and faith and the faith community to give our children the very best start and support. 


    Both off you complete fucking nutjob. 

    1425 called. They want their barbaric views back.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited May 2022
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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    cabbles said:
    Everyone that supports the right to bear arms in that country is complicit in murder.  
    I'm sorry to say that Americans deserve politicians like him. 


    I'm sorry to say that Americans deserve politicians like him. 


    Clearly the interviewer is scoring political points here. And Cruz is not speaking enough for the families involved in this terrible tragedy. 

    It is factually incorrect to say that schoolchildren are ONLY ever murdered by gunmen in America. Fulani Herdsmen anyone?Torching whole schools and kidnapping and raping (and "converting") 500 school girls.  Bombing Ukraine playschools anyone?  

    I won't even open the can of worms that is killing the unborn. The most vulnerable of all humans. 

    Perhaps barbaric computer games are not the SINGLE contributing factor to school shootings. But they clearly are not GOOD for anyone. So let us withdraw them. And movies of this type too. 

    And let us look at the factors that may lead to someone having such warped perception of reality that may lead to this tragedy. It is the responsibility of all of us to create a world where young people have a purpose, goal and values that are life-giving not life-destroying. 

    I can't imagine what these families are going through. It is a grief of a magnitude that is beyond thinking. I pray and hope that political point scoring takes a back seat and everyone really focuses on what makes life worth living for young people in this age. The gun licensing debate needs discussion for sure. As does mental health and a disintegrated  society which no longer has family values and faith and the faith community to give our children the very best start and support. 


    Are you referring to the children who are being kidnapped and converted in the name of religion?

    And you bang on about family values when the largest religion in this country only exists because someone wanted to get a divorce. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Biden pleading that things have got to stop.

    YOU'RE THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.  DRAW UP A BILL BANNING GUNS TOMORROW YOU FUCKING IDIOT  
    And have riots and civil unrest on the streets. Serious civil unrest.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    So there is an annual meeting of the NRA this weekend, being held in Houston (in Texas where there is an open carry gun rule). Trump is a guest speaker.

    Guess what? Guns are banned.

    You couldn't make it up. They won't push to ban guns anywhere else, but they will at their own meetings. This doesn't appear to be a new thing either, they ban them at most of their meetings. Quite ironic if guns are so safe.

    Surely they could just hold the meeting at a venue where there is just one door, and have a couple of security guards sat there.......
    Can this really be the same nation that put a man on the moon ? 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,963
    Dazzler21 said:
    By no measure is the USA the safest. It ranks 122 out of 163 on the global peace index, and has an intentional homicide rate of 5.3 per 100,000 compared to say the UK at 1.2 (UN Office on Drugs and Crime, 2017 figures).
    And there's A LOT of religious fundamentalism shit in the USA, a symptom of weak-mindedness and an inability to think for oneself.
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,952
    Even if Americans stick to their right to own guns,why FFS,do they need Kalashnikovs,Assault rifles.For  protection a simple pistol would do,for hunting etc. a single shot rifle,but weapons that fire 30 rounds a second,what possible justification is there for owning one.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,963
    Even if Americans stick to their right to own guns,why FFS,do they need Kalashnikovs,Assault rifles.For  protection a simple pistol would do,for hunting etc. a single shot rifle,but weapons that fire 30 rounds a second,what possible justification is there for owning one.
    They like them. That's it. They have nothing else.
    (Again, Jim Jeffries nails it here)
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    edited May 2022
    schools make a nice soft target for a cowardly killer .. I just cannot imagine the rage and hatred running through this teenager's mind as he murdered nineteen infants, two teachers and wounded seventeen more ..
     it's not just a question of the ease by which lethal guns can be obtained, though that makes the task of a potential killer that much easier, it's also a question of what drives these young people to such extreme and wanton violent acts .. this latest tragedy was wrought by a teenager against his own community .. R I P all those children who will never now have a chance at life
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,491
    Biden pleading that things have got to stop.

    YOU'RE THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.  DRAW UP A BILL BANNING GUNS TOMORROW YOU FUCKING IDIOT  
    You could at least do some basic research before calling people idiots. 

    There are already two bills in Congress to enhance gun control. Both have passed the House (Dems in favour bar a couple, Repubicans against (bar two). Both are stuck in the Senate. 

    As someone esle pointed out guns can't be banned entirely without a constitutional amendment. That requires (amongst other things) a two thirds majority of the Senate, whcih is completely impossible. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    The right to bear arms is as sensible, appropriate and forward-thinking as the right to arm bears. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Biden pleading that things have got to stop.

    YOU'RE THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.  DRAW UP A BILL BANNING GUNS TOMORROW YOU FUCKING IDIOT  
    That’s a bit naive, with all due respect. Do you think in a million years it would be passed?
    The only hope they have us that the Dems win a massive majority in an election. And when is that likely to happen?
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