Staff at Charlton being relieved of their duties

eaststandmike said:

valleynick66 said:

Airman Brown said:

balham red said:

Dazzler21 said:

Fanny Fanackapan said:

paulfox said:

Airman Brown said:

Redrobo said:

There has been a lot of criticism of the Club over the season. 

Late information going out and the arrangements for getting fans back to the Valley stick out in my mind. It didn’t bother me, but much was made of it even on this site.

It may not be that surprising that the owners then do something about things? They have shown that they are aware of what is said on this site and also get the feedback at the fans forums.

Just a thought.

If you’re suggesting that was the background to Dan Burke’s departure I think that’s completely off-beam. I do think there’s a lack of understanding between tickets and comms (about how fans need and use details) which means that information isn’t always presented in a timely or optimum way, but that is a matter for the relevant management. My take on his role is that it was to deal with individual fans.

I don’t know Dan, but I know people who do and it appears that his removal was handled abysmally and with no justification provided, at least at the time. It’s great news he’s got another job but if there’s any explanation beyond cost cutting it’s not been shared, so let’s not make stuff up.

So basically, you haven’t spoken 1st hand, got a one sided story, and put to everyone something abysmal may have happened, people read this and because of you’re reputation take it as fact, maybe the other side of the story needs to heard before adding fuel to the fire?.  The fella got sacked, he got a new job,, move on. , just playing devils advocate here, and get a few lols cheaply added, for daring to question you.👍

If you're given Dan's email address, perhaps you 'd happily contact him for his side of the story ? 

Dan spoke with me briefly and advised that there were no ill feelings to TS or anyone at the club. Doesn't exactly sound like any malice was involved.

"Abysmal"...

I’m sticking to that from what I’ve seen but it’s not appropriate to share any more. You’ll have to believe what you want. I have little doubt we’ll be here again in due course.

What do you mean by that ?

Are you saying more job losses to come or that the management style is going to be more blunt towards its employees?

Both, Henry is next when he is ousted from the museum.

Relax, @Henry Irving.

They'll keep you in as an exhibit.

 

Some of these job titles 🤣 think someone may have actually woken up to the point of not actually needing half the people in the roles within the club. 

Covered End said:

Some fans want it both ways.
Criticise an owner for running up massive debts and at the same time criticising an owner for trying to reduce costs.
This applies whether it's to playing or non playing staff.
As fans many of us have unrealistic expectations and I include myself in that.
(I'm not talking about how matters are dealt with, just the necessity to do so and I appreciate that not all decisions are correct).

Or as in this case retaining the role fully time but paying a wage rather than free lance rates which are usually higher per day.

Covered End said:

Some fans want it both ways.
Criticise an owner for running up massive debts and at the same time criticising an owner for trying to reduce costs.
This applies whether it's to playing or non playing staff.
As fans many of us have unrealistic expectations and I include myself in that.
(I'm not talking about how matters are dealt with, just the necessity to do so and I appreciate that not all decisions are correct).

It cuts both ways. Decision makers sometimes have no understanding of workload in specialist areas and are unable to understand the pressure their decisions put on staff.

shirty5 said:

Scoham said:

Different situation this one. Football clubs are never going to pay the highest salaries, especially at our level.

https://cafc.peoplehr.net/Pages/JobBoard/Opening.aspx?v=703d8ddc-5579-4f01-b1d0-57c6fe802772

Not surprised at that salary, I think the recent first team analyst role was being advertised at about £26k.

Any idea how it compares to similar clubs in our league?

Don’t think we pay well for any non football roles do we - nor particularly ever have?

With general cost of living concerns these roles may go unfilled as staff choose a better paid position. 

Airman Brown said:

Covered End said:

Some fans want it both ways.
Criticise an owner for running up massive debts and at the same time criticising an owner for trying to reduce costs.
This applies whether it's to playing or non playing staff.
As fans many of us have unrealistic expectations and I include myself in that.
(I'm not talking about how matters are dealt with, just the necessity to do so and I appreciate that not all decisions are correct).

It cuts both ways. Decision makers sometimes have no understanding of workload in specialist areas and are unable to understand the pressure their decisions put on staff.

It happens under new administrations and it happened to me,  an incoming boss who didn't understand my niche role, nor it's scope, left me to get on with it, not  appreciating the scale of my workload given the limited staffing resources available to me.

It didn't end well because I walked after 23 years of service and having been denied redundancy (twice). I left in order to preserve my sanity (some on here might argue I failed in that) and because I could. I later learned he left soon after 😂(🐓🐓➡️🛖)

But I digress. I find it strange that us fans seem to have developed such an interest in the movements of non playing staff, but I understand why in the broader context.

Croydon said:

Football clubs always take the piss with wages as they know there's fans/interested people willing to work for a club. Mad when you think how overpaid players are in relation 

They can just be smug money chasing narrow minded idiots.

These people don't think ahead. 

Yes, make the required cut backs. It is reasonable and healthy for the club...but don't take the piss.

If staff are paid well, then they will have increased job satisfaction and they will work harder. 
They will also speak out more fondly about working for Charlton. 

Got to say looking through the club’s vacancies, it’s embarrassing what is being offered for these roles.

Even in the roles where a degree and experience is the absolute minimum needed, so years of hard work and dedication, money spent to get to that position, the salaries and hours expected to work mean they are constantly working and struggling to get by with the current living crisis.

It’s disrespectful, and as much as I want the club to appoint people in roles that are needed, if you take the mick out future potential employees, don’t expect anything in return.

What’s the legitimate concern? That we’re not paying top dollar for a non football job? This is a consistent thing across football and sport as a whole