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Chuks Aneke - speculation re 2023/24 season (p60)
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He needs to be the back up, someone at least equally as good that can play a full game if required, is of far more value to the team.shirty5 said:Will pick up at least a couple of injuries this season that will see him miss a few weeks at least.
Always been that way and won’t change now. Just need adequate back up when that happens.0 -
And probably unaffordablepaulfox said:
He needs to be the back up, someone at least equally as good that can play a full game if required, is of far more value to the team.shirty5 said:Will pick up at least a couple of injuries this season that will see him miss a few weeks at least.
Always been that way and won’t change now. Just need adequate back up when that happens.2 -
Almost certainly🤷🏻♂️, probably explains the perseverance with Chuks.cafcfan1990 said:
And probably unaffordablepaulfox said:
He needs to be the back up, someone at least equally as good that can play a full game if required, is of far more value to the team.shirty5 said:Will pick up at least a couple of injuries this season that will see him miss a few weeks at least.
Always been that way and won’t change now. Just need adequate back up when that happens.0 -
Technically speaking Chuks is always injured or about to be injured, but then aren't we all. We need a striker to compete with Stockley as a starter, with them both knowing that if they haven't scored by the 65th minute Chuks is coming on to absolutely ruin a journeyman centre back's afternoon. It'll be a good spot to be in.
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Chuks has averaged 33.6 games per season over the past 5 years. Gilbey (just for example, not a player people consider injury prone) has averaged 34.4.
(Yes, I know Chuks wasn't playing 90 minutes for a lot of those games, you don't need to tell me - but he's not always injured)3 -
Let’s hope we have him available to come off the bench regularly. That’s not a given.Garrymanilow said:Technically speaking Chuks is always injured or about to be injured, but then aren't we all. We need a striker to compete with Stockley as a starter, with them both knowing that if they haven't scored by the 65th minute Chuks is coming on to absolutely ruin a journeyman centre back's afternoon. It'll be a good spot to be in.3 years on his contract remaining as well. I think he’s got some great attributes, but 3 years of this is going to be quite frustrating0 -
He can be a ticking timebomb aswell when things aren’t going well, so if he stays fit you have to hope he’s not missing games.cabbles said:
Let’s hope we have him available to come off the bench regularly. That’s not a given.Garrymanilow said:Technically speaking Chuks is always injured or about to be injured, but then aren't we all. We need a striker to compete with Stockley as a starter, with them both knowing that if they haven't scored by the 65th minute Chuks is coming on to absolutely ruin a journeyman centre back's afternoon. It'll be a good spot to be in.3 years on his contract remaining as well. I think he’s got some great attributes, but 3 years of this is going to be quite frustrating0 -
We all know his game time limitations, however, he is the best impact sub in the division. Couldn’t care less if he only plays 20 mins a game if he scores 15 goals again in those minutes. Stockley will get 20+ playing 70 mins per game. We do still need another striker to fill in from the start when Stockley is not available but that doesn’t detract from the fact that Aneke is a fantastic option to change a game when needed.21
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Absolutely this. If we can sign a decent second striker then Aneke’s inability to start doesn’t matter. We go with Stockley, Leaburn and Aneke and we can be in trouble.Covered_End_Lad said:We all know his game time limitations, however, he is the best impact sub in the division. Couldn’t care less if he only plays 20 mins a game if he scores 15 goals again in those minutes. Stockley will get 20+ playing 70 mins per game. We do still need another striker to fill in from the start when Stockley is not available but that doesn’t detract from the fact that Aneke is a fantastic option to change a game when needed.1 -
Agreed. Great impact sub.Covered_End_Lad said:We all know his game time limitations, however, he is the best impact sub in the division. Couldn’t care less if he only plays 20 mins a game if he scores 15 goals again in those minutes. Stockley will get 20+ playing 70 mins per game. We do still need another striker to fill in from the start when Stockley is not available but that doesn’t detract from the fact that Aneke is a fantastic option to change a game when needed.
Stil, pretty remarkable that we have ended up with the only player in professional football who gets visibly upset if required to play more than 30 minutes in a game.4 - Sponsored links:
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There were players in our squad last year taking up wages and a squad space who played far less minutes and effected games far less than Aneke will this year. Squads will always have players who play less, Aneke will at least score goals to aid our seasonal objectives.addick1956 said:
Occasionally maybe. However while paying him to be a medical couch tester we cannot employ and pay someone else who is match fit 3 times in a week because of the money management strictures. Unless he works for free and even then there is a body count in operation.Covered_End_Lad said:We all know his game time limitations, however, he is the best impact sub in the division. Couldn’t care less if he only plays 20 mins a game if he scores 15 goals again in those minutes. Stockley will get 20+ playing 70 mins per game. We do still need another striker to fill in from the start when Stockley is not available but that doesn’t detract from the fact that Aneke is a fantastic option to change a game when needed.3 -
Do any other teams division have a player whose roll is only that of ‘impact sub’?Covered_End_Lad said:We all know his game time limitations, however, he is the best impact sub in the division. Couldn’t care less if he only plays 20 mins a game if he scores 15 goals again in those minutes. Stockley will get 20+ playing 70 mins per game. We do still need another striker to fill in from the start when Stockley is not available but that doesn’t detract from the fact that Aneke is a fantastic option to change a game when needed.
You can’t even rotate Aneke out with Stockley over a congested Saturday/Tuesday schedule because we know he will break down.What are the stats for how many points are won or lost in the last 20 minutes of a game? For me it does not matter if Aneke comes on and can score goals during this period when the squad and team as a whole are affected by his inability to cover our 1st choice striker being injured or suspended.
Of course we can always get a quality 3rd striker in. However which other quality striker wants to come in knowing that we are going to play one CF, and that they will essentially be third choice when Stockley and Aneke are fit and will have limited game time.How much of the wage budget are we spending on that player? Why are they not going to go to a team where they know they will get guaranteed game time?0 -
It was a ludicrous signing . We can only hope that they have a good loan lined up - someone that can play wide and up front and is a guaranteed starter in each position - like a KAG type player - they don’t grow on trees.FishCostaFortune said:
Do any other teams division have a player whose roll is only that of ‘impact sub’?Covered_End_Lad said:We all know his game time limitations, however, he is the best impact sub in the division. Couldn’t care less if he only plays 20 mins a game if he scores 15 goals again in those minutes. Stockley will get 20+ playing 70 mins per game. We do still need another striker to fill in from the start when Stockley is not available but that doesn’t detract from the fact that Aneke is a fantastic option to change a game when needed.
You can’t even rotate Aneke out with Stockley over a congested Saturday/Tuesday schedule because we know he will break down.What are the stats for how many points are won or lost in the last 20 minutes of a game? For me it does not matter if Aneke comes on and can score goals during this period when the squad and team as a whole are affected by his inability to cover our 1st choice striker being injured or suspended.
Of course we can always get a quality 3rd striker in. However which other quality striker wants to come in knowing that we are going to play one CF, and that they will essentially be third choice when Stockley and Aneke are fit and will have limited game time.How much of the wage budget are we spending on that player? Why are they not going to go to a team where they know they will get guaranteed game time?0 -
No one is as deaf as the man who will not listen.addick1956 said:Here we are again . Season not started and it is all about Aneke....
How we gave him a 3 Yr contract when he can't manage half a game a week is stupid.
So far he has had 50 odd minutes or so and he needs a bloody rest..
The only impact he has is on our frustration and my blood pressure!5 -
As suggested by someone above, Aneke should be the first name on the bench.
That's his role: super sub.
He's not cover to start for a perhaps injured Stockley.
And I wouldn't want to put that responsibility entirely on the promising but only 18 and very raw Leaburn.
Yep, we need a player who can cover for an injured Stockley.
Unless the plan is to amend the game plan to do without a conventional number 9 at such a time - and play Jack Payne as a 'false 9'.
That'll confuse the oppo. And us!
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Don’t worry guys, this is all part of Ben G’s master plan to keep Accy guessing next weekend!0
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He’s 29, I don’t think anything is going to change on that front sadly.7
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Could do , he looks weak and punyFishCostaFortune said:He’s 29, I don’t think anything is going to change on that front sadly.3 -
The only masterplan I want it to be a part of is one that ends up with us signing a new first team striker!Mendonca In Asdas said:Don’t worry guys, this is all part of Ben G’s master plan to keep Accy guessing next weekend!4 - Sponsored links:
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Scan on Monday....great. Didn't see him at the Valley today. Egbo and the players from yday where up there. Mmmh.0
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Well, Ben Garner's talking absolute tosh there isn't he. I'm sure i read on here that Chuks has no problem with his fitness and has played more games than anyone else ....... apparently.LouisMend said:2 -
The human body is a wonderful yet weird thing. If you look at Chucks he is a proper unit but obviously made of glass and then you look at players like Dobson who tackle all day long with legs that look like spindles and they just shake the knocks off it seems2
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Hasn't taken Garner long to work Aneke out. Deconditioned. Thats a new one. Or did he mean Decommissioned. Whatever - all it means is that another striker is paramount. By that I mean this week. Before the season starts. Not on Aug 31st when we've already played 6 matches & are behind the 8 ball.9
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Why the rush? We are likely to be playing one striker who will be Stockley. How can the club persuade a top quality player to come when they can be confident of being the third option for one place when everyone is fit?1
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Chucks is built like a light heavyweight boxer and not a modern day footballer. I’m not sure energetic bursts of speed, twisting and turning are something his body can cope with. Certainly not week in week out.2
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I’m not a sports scientist but surely the medical team have tried many things with him, his legs just look dead when he is running, they must of tried to reduce the muscle mass a bit? He reminds of the times people used to say frank bruno was muscle bound, that lack of mobility. But then are they keeping the muscle on to help another issue? Guess we’ll never know whilst he is playing, trouble is I think it causes us more trouble than it’s maybe worth.0
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His fitness levels are for an athlete appalling. Not suggesting in any way it’s his fault. A fit Chuks is a real asset but having a footballer who can’t ever play 90 minutes is a concern and in many respects a liability. Hopefully he can have an impact for us this year but if he can’t stay fit then he’s really just clogging up a squad place.addick1956 said:
He has been a football player for years. Nobody spots it until now ? That would be a surprise.ShootersHillGuru said:Chucks is built like a light heavyweight boxer and not a modern day footballer. I’m not sure energetic bursts of speed, twisting and turning are something his body can cope with. Certainly not week in week out.1 -
The other thing with resigning Aneke is this.
Presumably he must be one of our highest paid players - otherwise he surely wouldn't have given a lucrative contract up at Birmingham to come back. If I was one of the other players who plays his heart out on a Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday then I'd be well fed up that I was getting paid a lot less than someone who plays 30 minutes occasionally. If we are lucky.
I'd still love to know who it was thought that giving an injury prone player a 3 and a half year contract was a good idea.6 -
And to think we paid money to resign him, madness.ShootersHillGuru said:
His fitness levels are for an athlete appalling. Not suggesting in any way it’s his fault. A fit Chuks is a real asset but having a footballer who can’t ever play 90 minutes is a concern and in many respects a liability. Hopefully he can have an impact for us this year but if he can’t stay fit then he’s really just clogging up a squad place.addick1956 said:
He has been a football player for years. Nobody spots it until now ? That would be a surprise.ShootersHillGuru said:Chucks is built like a light heavyweight boxer and not a modern day footballer. I’m not sure energetic bursts of speed, twisting and turning are something his body can cope with. Certainly not week in week out.2
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