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England Cricket 2022

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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,752
    100/4 was a great fightback. That wicket the last ball before lunch is a kick in the knackers 
    England will do well to make 200 from here.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    116-6, poor light, rapid fast bowling. Welcome to the crease Stuart Broad  :#
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,944
    116-6, poor light, rapid fast bowling. Welcome to the crease Stuart Broad  :#
    When he's batting at 8 you know we're in trouble. Oh for the days when we had Moeen at 8 and Woakes at 9.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    Broad is saved by the rain
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    116-6, poor light, rapid fast bowling. Welcome to the crease Stuart Broad  :#
    When he's batting at 8 you know we're in trouble. Oh for the days when we had Moeen at 8 and Woakes at 9.
    It would weaken the bowling, but Sam Curran would be an option to lengthen the batting 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,944
    edited August 2022
    Strauss refuses to answer the question re the optimum number of County Championship games. He should become a politician. Atherton stinging in his criticism of the ECB and the way they have promoted the Hundred to the extent that they have alienated traditional cricket fans. He wants June/July for the CC but where would you fit the Blast in given that the Hundred is taking up August?

    Strauss then asks the question "what skills do counties need to work on in order for them to become Test cricketers?". This from the man who instructed counties some years ago to concentrate on producing white ball cricketers and as a result counties stopped looking at technically sound batsmen who couldn't hit the ball 360 degrees.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    The one good thing about Lord's is that there is good cover!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited August 2022
    Strauss refuses to answer the question re the optimum number of County Championship games. He should become a politician. Atherton stinging in his criticism of the ECB and the way they have promoted the Hundred to the extent that they have alienated traditional cricket fans. He wants June/July for the CC but where would you fit the Blast in given that the Hundred is taking up August?

    Strauss then asks the question "what skills do counties need to work on in order for them to become Test cricketers?". This from the man who instructed counties some years ago to concentrate on producing white ball cricketers and as a result counties stopped looking at technically sound batsmen who couldn't hit the ball 360 degrees.
    What the ECB need to do is find a game that encourages "proper" batting and bowling, whilst also allowing for range hitting and death bowling, that are so highly valued in the t20 world.  Some sort of compromise between the two.

    I would suggest about 50 overs a side would be about right?

    You could even have a cup competition.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,752
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Strauss refuses to answer the question re the optimum number of County Championship games. He should become a politician. Atherton stinging in his criticism of the ECB and the way they have promoted the Hundred to the extent that they have alienated traditional cricket fans. He wants June/July for the CC but where would you fit the Blast in given that the Hundred is taking up August?

    Strauss then asks the question "what skills do counties need to work on in order for them to become Test cricketers?". This from the man who instructed counties some years ago to concentrate on producing white ball cricketers and as a result counties stopped looking at technically sound batsmen who couldn't hit the ball 360 degrees.
    What the ECB need to do is find a game that encourages "proper" batting and bowling, whilst also allowing for range hitting and death bowling, that are so highly valued in the t20 world.  Some sort of compromise between the two.

    I would suggest about 50 overs a side would be about right?

    You could even have a cup competition.
    Exactly. 
    If it ain't broke don't try and fix it springs to mind. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    Absolutely drenched as the rain went biblical just as I was leaving the ground after play was abandoned  :D

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    Seriously unimpressed that the cutoff for a 50% refund is 29.5 overs, and as 32 overs were bowled, we get nothing back
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Strauss refuses to answer the question re the optimum number of County Championship games. He should become a politician. Atherton stinging in his criticism of the ECB and the way they have promoted the Hundred to the extent that they have alienated traditional cricket fans. He wants June/July for the CC but where would you fit the Blast in given that the Hundred is taking up August?

    Strauss then asks the question "what skills do counties need to work on in order for them to become Test cricketers?". This from the man who instructed counties some years ago to concentrate on producing white ball cricketers and as a result counties stopped looking at technically sound batsmen who couldn't hit the ball 360 degrees.
    Play the blast on the Sunday during the CC games . Ie play Surrey Thursday - Monday and have the Blast vs Surrey Sunday. Cuts down on travelling costs as well . Where’s my job at the ECB?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,944
    edited August 2022
    Strauss refuses to answer the question re the optimum number of County Championship games. He should become a politician. Atherton stinging in his criticism of the ECB and the way they have promoted the Hundred to the extent that they have alienated traditional cricket fans. He wants June/July for the CC but where would you fit the Blast in given that the Hundred is taking up August?

    Strauss then asks the question "what skills do counties need to work on in order for them to become Test cricketers?". This from the man who instructed counties some years ago to concentrate on producing white ball cricketers and as a result counties stopped looking at technically sound batsmen who couldn't hit the ball 360 degrees.
    Play the blast on the Sunday during the CC games . Ie play Surrey Thursday - Monday and have the Blast vs Surrey Sunday. Cuts down on travelling costs as well . Where’s my job at the ECB?
    The only issue with that is that teams in the CC are in two divisions. Unless you do the same with the Blast, it doesn't work. It would also mean that a team that is in Div 2 of the CC has a potentially easier group in the Blast.

    I don't disagree with doing something similar with the CC/Blast though. Perhaps Sunday-Wednesday the CC and then the Blast on Friday evenings. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    Or play the 50 over alongside the CC as it used to be played, e.g. Sunday 50 over, CC Tuesday to Friday
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,944
    Or play the 50 over alongside the CC as it used to be played, e.g. Sunday 50 over, CC Tuesday to Friday
    Good idea - and play the Blast throughout August when the kids can come and watch. And the Hundred in April.
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Strauss refuses to answer the question re the optimum number of County Championship games. He should become a politician. Atherton stinging in his criticism of the ECB and the way they have promoted the Hundred to the extent that they have alienated traditional cricket fans. He wants June/July for the CC but where would you fit the Blast in given that the Hundred is taking up August?

    Strauss then asks the question "what skills do counties need to work on in order for them to become Test cricketers?". This from the man who instructed counties some years ago to concentrate on producing white ball cricketers and as a result counties stopped looking at technically sound batsmen who couldn't hit the ball 360 degrees.
    Play the blast on the Sunday during the CC games . Ie play Surrey Thursday - Monday and have the Blast vs Surrey Sunday. Cuts down on travelling costs as well . Where’s my job at the ECB?
    The only issue with that is that teams in the CC are in two divisions. Unless you do the same with the Blast, it doesn't work. It would also mean that a team that is in Div 2 of the CC has a potentially easier group in the Blast.

    I don't disagree with doing something similar with the CC/Blast though. Perhaps Sunday-Wednesday the CC and then the Blast on Friday evenings. 
    North and South and playoffs ? 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,083
    Mad to think that Harmy and Fred are only 3 and 4 years older than him but have been retired more than 10 years.
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    Mad to think that Harmy and Fred are only 3 and 4 years older than him but have been retired more than 10 years.
    Not so mad if life was measured in alcohol units drunk rather than time
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    I still find it staggering that Stewart and Anderson played in the same side, but then Stewart was the last England player to play when over 40 before Jimmy!

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  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    I still find it staggering that Stewart and Anderson played in the same side, but then Stewart was the last England player to play when over 40 before Jimmy!
    And his Dad played for Charlton 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,944
    Does that mean that Pope has been dropped four times? 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Oh pope… golden opportunity to prove his doubters completely wrong. Great knock but could’ve pushed on 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,785
    Oh pope… golden opportunity to prove his doubters completely wrong. Great knock but could’ve pushed on 
    Got a life this morning only to play that nothing shot. 200 almost certainly out of reach now
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,944
    edited August 2022
    To be fair, when you have 73 in the book and the next top is 20, you are King by a very long way in the Land of the Blind. These conditions are as difficult as they can be especially given that South Africa's seam attack is top drawer.  
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited August 2022
    To be fair, when you have 73 in the book and the next top is 20, you are King by a very long way in the Land of the Blind. These conditions are as difficult as they can be especially given that South Africa's seam attack is top drawer.  
    i agree, but a century at lords in difficult conditions vs bowlers like rabada and nortje would tell everyone that he clearly is good enough. Something that dogged another player with beautiful technique in ian bell was that he only played well when the team played well. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,374
    England have been bowled out for less than 180 in their first innings of a Lord's Test - and gone on to win - six times.  Once in the nineteenth century; twice in the twentieth century; and already three times this century.  You only have to go back as far as June this year for the last time it happened. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,405
    Brad's final Test. Calling it now 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,405
    Also Broad's 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,847
    Good toss to win yesterday. Put the opposition in when its cloudy & rain around. Bowl them out cheaply & then bat in lovely sunny conditions.