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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,962
    Anyone else think it was brilliant that Rees Mogg managed to miss getting the Privy Council/chief annoucer type job that Penny Mordaunt carried out at the Ascension by 2 days.

    He'd have been so smug looking at looking important during the whole thing.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,873
    Billyboy said:
    stop_shouting said:
    Gribbo said:
    se9addick said:
    Dave2l said:
    soapboxsam said:
    CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.

    I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !

    King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen  has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king. 

    Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.

    Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to  William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.

    I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.

    Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.


    I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist,  but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.

    The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue. 

    We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
    Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.

    But let’s leave that debate for the HoC. 
    Going by most of your post regarding the monarchy, you're obviously anti, which is fair enough, but why scan through this thread looking to pull people up, to then tell them that any argument is for the HoC thread?


    I am a royalist.
    Me too
    Me too (monarchist is a better description than royalist)
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Charles III doing a Christmas speech. 

    Can't imagine it. 

    Reminded me she was the queen for 70 years. 
    We are now living in a bizarre time frame of dramatic change. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,629
    edited September 2022
    That chair needs changing. CIIIR. Although the tapestry behind still has VR


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,880
    I imagine I wasn't the only person who knew nothing about the position Lord President of the Council . Indeed I doubt Penny Mordaunt thought much about it on Tuesday when she was given the title, seeing that being Leader of the Commons is her primary role!

    Rees-Mogg actually only had the job until February, when Mark Spencer was given the position, so he's the one who just missed out on a place in history
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,154
    The organisation in getting these things done, plus the funeral next with with all the associated dignitaries having to be collated and informed and invited and to be housed must be phenomenal.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,421
    AFKABartram said:
    killerandflash said:
    King Charles has left Balmoral to travel to London.

    "King Charles" is going to take a lot of time to get used to.
    Thinking about it I rarely ever said or thought Queen  Elizabeth, it was simply The Queen.

    Thinking and saying ‘The King’ is what’s going to take time. 
      Just as @Redmidland gets used to singing “God save the Queen” it gets changed again. 
    God save the King.
    RIP My Queen 😪💔
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,472
    BR7_addick said:
    Covered End said:
    Quite right we don't need a Royal family, nor holidays, football, sport, pubs, alcohol, cinema, theatre, restaurants, music, trainers. 
    I could carry on for quite sometime.
    We need shelter, water and food, that's about it as a necessity.
    As with the other thread you’re saying things that no one said again in a tantrum, your head has absolutely gone this evening.  No one’s arguing with anyone, the debate it fine.  
     Off with his head??
  • Blackheathen
    Blackheathen Posts: 6,656
    A nice touch putting the picture of the Queen at the top of the main page.

    Thanks for your reply Fanny.  Answers my question 😄
  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    May the choirs of angels come to meet Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II may they lead her to Paradise. 

    An exemplary sovereign leader and steward. I overheard two people on the bus yesterday  "....The last great thing about this country has gone. She was solid, stable, dignified at all times and made me very proud. I'm heartbroken and sense a massive loss. Never thought I'd feel like this". 

    It was great that she cited her strength came from her Christian faith. King Charles echoed this for himself today in his speech.

    Perhaps there is still hope in the future of this country after all...

    God Save The King. 


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  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    North Lower Neil said:
    Anyone else think it was brilliant that Rees Mogg managed to miss getting the Privy Council/chief annoucer type job that Penny Mordaunt carried out at the Ascension by 2 days.

    He'd have been so smug looking at looking important during the whole thing.
    I think he would have been excellent. The peculiar  desire by the mob to demand the most bland in everything in this age is the mark of this generation.  If Mordaunt had been a piece of architecture King Charles would have called her a carbuncle! 


  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    stop_shouting said:
    Gribbo said:
    se9addick said:
    Dave2l said:
    soapboxsam said:
    CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.

    I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !

    King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen  has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king. 

    Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.

    Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to  William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.

    I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.

    Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.


    I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist,  but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.

    The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue. 

    We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
    Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.

    But let’s leave that debate for the HoC. 
    Going by most of your post regarding the monarchy, you're obviously anti, which is fair enough, but why scan through this thread looking to pull people up, to then tell them that any argument is for the HoC thread?


    I am a royalist.
    Never said you weren't tbh
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    The Queen begins her final journey from Balmoral in an hours time.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,015

  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Been watching these pictures on the tele since 10am on the Queens finalourney to Edinburgh.
    Nearly all the properties theyve driven past someones been there to see the hearse through.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Has there been an announcement as to when the King's coronation will be?
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,765
    Chizz said:
    Has there been an announcement as to when the King's coronation will be?
    I doubt it, it's far too soon after the death of The Queen. It will probably be next year I imagine.
  • Billyboy
    Billyboy Posts: 520
    bazjonster said:
    It was a privilege to serve Queen and country for 28 years in the Royal Air Force.

    It was an absolute honour to be selected to serve on The Queen’s Flight at RAF Benson for 3 of those years.

    R.I.P Your Majesty 


    Thankyou for service sir 👏👏👏
  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    I have just been to sign the official book of condolences in the UK embassy in Madrid. They said the response has been incredible, with tributes from a huge amount of people here,  Spanish, British expats and from the international community. It was a very moving and proud moment.

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  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,298
    Thought I heard boos in Edinburgh 
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,615
    palarsehater said:
    Thought I heard boos in Edinburgh 
    No, it was one of the members of the military calling out to the troops to move.
    (if you’re talking about when they did the 3 cheers for the King bit)
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    edited September 2022
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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    jimmymelrose said:
    carly burn said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?

    People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
     Totally not. People are mourning because that's what you do when someone dies who is a part of your life.
    I understand the argument. It doesn't have to be someone you personally know; it can be a famous person who has influenced you or affected you emotionally.
    What I don't understand is how she has done that to you. In what way did you feel a connection to her? What things did she actually do? Did she use her power and influence to:
    - defend / improve any group's rights
    - promote any causes
    - help any philanthropial work
    - address any of the world's most pressing issues e.g. war, climate change etc
    ????

    Please note: I am not being disrespectful or trying to hurt anyone's feelings. There are one or two famous people who I've never personally known who I will feel sad about upon their death.

    I would just like some real explanation rather than the statutory reply of 'she did good service' or 'she represented the country.'


    Defend/improve any group's rights 
    You mean, like establishing the modern Commonwealth, spending 70 years as its head and attending almost every CHOGM meeting? 

    promote any causes 
    You mean, other than the 800+ charities of which she was head, and for which she helped raise more than £1.4bn? 

    help any philanthropial work 
    You mean, beyond the many hundreds of charitable organisations of which she was head, from the Aberdeen Association of Social Service to the YWCA? 

    address any of the world's most pressing issues e.g. war, climate change etc 
    You mean, aside from overseeing the removal of Commonwealth status to five countries for their human rights records; opposing apartheid (causing South Africa to withdraw from the Commonwealth); and rewilding 850,000 acres of land?

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,833
    jimmymelrose said:
    carly burn said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?

    People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
     Totally not. People are mourning because that's what you do when someone dies who is a part of your life.
    I understand the argument. It doesn't have to be someone you personally know; it can be a famous person who has influenced you or affected you emotionally.
    What I don't understand is how she has done that to you. In what way did you feel a connection to her? What things did she actually do? Did she use her power and influence to:
    - defend / improve any group's rights
    - promote any causes
    - help any philanthropial work
    - address any of the world's most pressing issues e.g. war, climate change etc
    ????

    Please note: I am not being disrespectful or trying to hurt anyone's feelings. There are one or two famous people who I've never personally known who I will feel sad about upon their death.

    I would just like some real explanation rather than the statutory reply of 'she did good service' or 'she represented the country.'


    You are being disrespectful. Well I think you are. If you want to continue this debate, copy and paste it onto the Monarchy thread on there with those that can be bothered. 

    No further replying on this thread please peeps, thank you. 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,309
    Beautiful photos @Chizz thanks for sharing 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,309
    Will post boxes have to be replaced?
    the ones with ER on…
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,833
    Any advice from anyone whose been up to Buck House / Green Park last couple days ?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,629
    EugenesAxe said:
    Will post boxes have to be replaced?
    the ones with ER on…
    No. There are still to be found post boxes from monarchs before Elizabeth II. GIIR AND VIIR are still about.

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