Sport in the aftermath - What should happen? (EFL fixtures resume Tues 13th Sept - p20)

Chelsea v Liverpool & Man United v Leeds are both now off at the weekend as well as Crystal Palace v Brighton

LargeAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

Funerals cancelled. the funerals of ordinary citizens. Just listened to a woman on a radio phone-in describing how she was called yesterday by the crematorium where her mother was to be buried today. They said "we suppose you know why we are calling". She had no idea. When they told her, they were, she said "very matter-of -fact" in tone, and claimed that all crematoria are taking the same action. She had relatives flying in from the US, hotels booked etc.

Two questions

1. While we cannot presume to know our late Queen's mind, is there a single person on here who wants to suggest she would have been happy with this?

2. Who, exactly, needs to "get a grip" about random cancellations?

Our friends buried their mother today at Falconwood.

Edit - ignore me I got the wrong end of the stick.

No, sounds interesting. Falconwood was operating normally today? If so I’ll pass that on to the radio prog. The poor woman was led to believe it was a nationwide decision. She was intelligent and lucid. No chance that she misheard what her crematorium told her.

EDIT: I think I misheard. This poor lady's funeral is on the same day as the now announced Royal funeral. It remains an absolutely shameful decision. When I think of the logistics that went into my own late Mum's relatively simple funeral at Falconwood (led brilliantly by a Lifer btw), I think I would never forgive the people who made this decision.

Spurs manager Conte also said he had been to Buckingham Palace to pay his respects. "On Friday I went to Buckingham Palace because I think for sure we will remember this for the rest of our lives."

"I want to give condolences from me, from the club, from the players to the Royal Family. Then football has to go ahead and we will do it, but I think the Premier League made an important decision to stop football and show respect for the death of the Queen."

Airman Brown said:

PragueAddick said:

LargeAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

Funerals cancelled. the funerals of ordinary citizens. Just listened to a woman on a radio phone-in describing how she was called yesterday by the crematorium where her mother was to be buried today. They said "we suppose you know why we are calling". She had no idea. When they told her, they were, she said "very matter-of -fact" in tone, and claimed that all crematoria are taking the same action. She had relatives flying in from the US, hotels booked etc.

Two questions

1. While we cannot presume to know our late Queen's mind, is there a single person on here who wants to suggest she would have been happy with this?

2. Who, exactly, needs to "get a grip" about random cancellations?

Our friends buried their mother today at Falconwood.

Edit - ignore me I got the wrong end of the stick.

No, sounds interesting. Falconwood was operating normally today? If so I’ll pass that on to the radio prog. The poor woman was led to believe it was a nationwide decision. She was intelligent and lucid. No chance that she misheard what her crematorium told her.

EDIT: I think I misheard. This poor lady's funeral is on the same day as the now announced Royal funeral. It remains an absolutely shameful decision. When I think of the logistics that went into my own late Mum's relatively simple funeral at Falconwood (led brilliantly by a Lifer btw), I think I would never forgive the people who made this decision.

Do funerals normally take place on bank holidays? I understand the practical and personal issue the postponement causes but it also means other people don’t have to work.

Well that’s a take I didnt expect, not from you anyway.

I daresay funerals dont take place on “bank” holidays, but they are in the calendar for all to see. Unlike this one. Then of course, people do have to work on those holidays. NHS, fire service, etc, not to mention all those poor souls who have to man the tills at retail outlets that stay open on Bank holidays.

But if you really want to stick to that line you might at least agree that the State should endeavour to make an out-of -pocket payment to all those affected. Or perhaps even better that the King sends condolences to all those affected. I will bet a lot of money that no one in the relevant positions has given that second thought.

It is even a greater pity that some patients who have been scheduled for operations/tests/investigations on Monday will now have further delays due to the bank holiday - thanks King

PragueAddick said:

Airman Brown said:

PragueAddick said:

LargeAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

Funerals cancelled. the funerals of ordinary citizens. Just listened to a woman on a radio phone-in describing how she was called yesterday by the crematorium where her mother was to be buried today. They said "we suppose you know why we are calling". She had no idea. When they told her, they were, she said "very matter-of -fact" in tone, and claimed that all crematoria are taking the same action. She had relatives flying in from the US, hotels booked etc.

Two questions

1. While we cannot presume to know our late Queen's mind, is there a single person on here who wants to suggest she would have been happy with this?

2. Who, exactly, needs to "get a grip" about random cancellations?

Our friends buried their mother today at Falconwood.

Edit - ignore me I got the wrong end of the stick.

No, sounds interesting. Falconwood was operating normally today? If so I’ll pass that on to the radio prog. The poor woman was led to believe it was a nationwide decision. She was intelligent and lucid. No chance that she misheard what her crematorium told her.

EDIT: I think I misheard. This poor lady's funeral is on the same day as the now announced Royal funeral. It remains an absolutely shameful decision. When I think of the logistics that went into my own late Mum's relatively simple funeral at Falconwood (led brilliantly by a Lifer btw), I think I would never forgive the people who made this decision.

Do funerals normally take place on bank holidays? I understand the practical and personal issue the postponement causes but it also means other people don’t have to work.

Well that’s a take I didnt expect, not from you anyway.

I daresay funerals dont take place on “bank” holidays, but they are in the calendar for all to see. Unlike this one. Then of course, people do have to work on those holidays. NHS, fire service, etc, not to mention all those poor souls who have to man the tills at retail outlets that stay open on Bank holidays.

But if you really want to stick to that line you might at least agree that the State should endeavour to make an out-of -pocket payment to all those affected. Or perhaps even better that the King sends condolences to all those affected. I will bet a lot of money that no one in the relevant positions has given that second thought.

You don’t think it’s a consideration if people are being asked to work a bank holiday? Supposing they are particularly anxious to watch the Queen’s funeral, which I imagine some people will be. I just think there are two sides to it, but you’re only looking at one. Why make it a bank holiday at all if people have to work?

The others you mention all work bank holidays and will understand that is part of their job.

PragueAddick said:

Funerals cancelled. the funerals of ordinary citizens. Just listened to a woman on a radio phone-in describing how she was called yesterday by the crematorium where her mother was to be buried today. They said "we suppose you know why we are calling". She had no idea. When they told her, they were, she said "very matter-of -fact" in tone, and claimed that all crematoria are taking the same action. She had relatives flying in from the US, hotels booked etc.

Two questions

1. While we cannot presume to know our late Queen's mind, is there a single person on here who wants to suggest she would have been happy with this?

2. Who, exactly, needs to "get a grip" about random cancellations?

EDIT: Seeing Prague's edit does change things. The poor lady's funeral is now a Bank Holiday. But you would still expect them to honour the arrangement. As you say, the logistics of funeral arrangement are difficult enough.

Karim_myBagheri said:

Banner at yestedays Champions league match between Bayern and Barcelona 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11209467/Bayern-Munich-fans-unveil-banner-protesting-against-impact-Queens-death-fixtures.html

bit rich there nation got football stopped for a good few years. 

palarsehater said:

Karim_myBagheri said:

Banner at yestedays Champions league match between Bayern and Barcelona 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11209467/Bayern-Munich-fans-unveil-banner-protesting-against-impact-Queens-death-fixtures.html

bit rich there nation got football stopped for a good few years. 

Completely fair banner though 

PragueAddick said:

Off_it said:

PragueAddick said:

Off_it said:

Airman Brown said:

PragueAddick said:

Airman Brown said:

PragueAddick said:

LargeAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

Funerals cancelled. the funerals of ordinary citizens. Just listened to a woman on a radio phone-in describing how she was called yesterday by the crematorium where her mother was to be buried today. They said "we suppose you know why we are calling". She had no idea. When they told her, they were, she said "very matter-of -fact" in tone, and claimed that all crematoria are taking the same action. She had relatives flying in from the US, hotels booked etc.

Two questions

1. While we cannot presume to know our late Queen's mind, is there a single person on here who wants to suggest she would have been happy with this?

2. Who, exactly, needs to "get a grip" about random cancellations?

Our friends buried their mother today at Falconwood.

Edit - ignore me I got the wrong end of the stick.

No, sounds interesting. Falconwood was operating normally today? If so I’ll pass that on to the radio prog. The poor woman was led to believe it was a nationwide decision. She was intelligent and lucid. No chance that she misheard what her crematorium told her.

EDIT: I think I misheard. This poor lady's funeral is on the same day as the now announced Royal funeral. It remains an absolutely shameful decision. When I think of the logistics that went into my own late Mum's relatively simple funeral at Falconwood (led brilliantly by a Lifer btw), I think I would never forgive the people who made this decision.

Do funerals normally take place on bank holidays? I understand the practical and personal issue the postponement causes but it also means other people don’t have to work.

Well that’s a take I didnt expect, not from you anyway.

I daresay funerals dont take place on “bank” holidays, but they are in the calendar for all to see. Unlike this one. Then of course, people do have to work on those holidays. NHS, fire service, etc, not to mention all those poor souls who have to man the tills at retail outlets that stay open on Bank holidays.

But if you really want to stick to that line you might at least agree that the State should endeavour to make an out-of -pocket payment to all those affected. Or perhaps even better that the King sends condolences to all those affected. I will bet a lot of money that no one in the relevant positions has given that second thought.

You don’t think it’s a consideration if people are being asked to work a bank holiday? Supposing they are particularly anxious to watch the Queen’s funeral, which I imagine some people will be. I just think there are two sides to it, but you’re only looking at one. Why make it a bank holiday at all if people have to work?

The others you mention all work bank holidays and will understand that is part of their job.

Completely agree. 

@PragueAddick; you're wrong here, as Airman has explained. So just leave it there.

I'm quite happy to leave it there. Fortunately I  don't have to witness the mass hysteria up close and personal, See y'all on Tuesday

I haven't seen any "mass hysteria" at all. Or any hysteria of any kind. Far from it.

Even some of the news crews desperately trying to create an "angle" and shoving microphones into peoples faces in the queue or as they leave Westminster Hall seem to have been met with solemn and dignified responses in the main, from what I've seen.

Lucky you. 

I don't make a habit of watching BBC TV news any more. I just happened to land on it last night after finishing something pre-recorded.

They showed the moment when the cavalcade including the hearse arrived at Buckingham Palace. As it did a twirl around, and at relatively high speed,  people cheered and *whooped* as if it was an F1 car on a victory lap. That was the moment I said to myself I'm done with this. Definitely not my idea of dignified. 

And that really is my last word on this. I won't undignify this thread by introducing the issue of the protest arrests. That can wait until Tuesday as far as I'm concerned.

I don't like the whooping and clapping either, but perhaps that's a generational thing, however I wouldn't call it mass hysteria, but an outpouring of love, affection and respect for a woman who has devoted her whole life to the service of her country, realms and territories. No-one could have done better than the Queen, whose service started long before she was crowned and continued to the very end of her life.

I have watched many hours of tv coverage and it is wonderful to see the respect for the Queen with which most people have responded. It is wonderful to hear of the bonds made between strangers whilst queuing to pay their respects. Sadly, we have a very divided country, however this is a chance to come together and mourn the loss of a very much loved lady.

PragueAddick said:

Off_it said:

PragueAddick said:

Off_it said:

Airman Brown said:

PragueAddick said:

Airman Brown said:

PragueAddick said:

LargeAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

Funerals cancelled. the funerals of ordinary citizens. Just listened to a woman on a radio phone-in describing how she was called yesterday by the crematorium where her mother was to be buried today. They said "we suppose you know why we are calling". She had no idea. When they told her, they were, she said "very matter-of -fact" in tone, and claimed that all crematoria are taking the same action. She had relatives flying in from the US, hotels booked etc.

Two questions

1. While we cannot presume to know our late Queen's mind, is there a single person on here who wants to suggest she would have been happy with this?

2. Who, exactly, needs to "get a grip" about random cancellations?

Our friends buried their mother today at Falconwood.

Edit - ignore me I got the wrong end of the stick.

No, sounds interesting. Falconwood was operating normally today? If so I’ll pass that on to the radio prog. The poor woman was led to believe it was a nationwide decision. She was intelligent and lucid. No chance that she misheard what her crematorium told her.

EDIT: I think I misheard. This poor lady's funeral is on the same day as the now announced Royal funeral. It remains an absolutely shameful decision. When I think of the logistics that went into my own late Mum's relatively simple funeral at Falconwood (led brilliantly by a Lifer btw), I think I would never forgive the people who made this decision.

Do funerals normally take place on bank holidays? I understand the practical and personal issue the postponement causes but it also means other people don’t have to work.

Well that’s a take I didnt expect, not from you anyway.

I daresay funerals dont take place on “bank” holidays, but they are in the calendar for all to see. Unlike this one. Then of course, people do have to work on those holidays. NHS, fire service, etc, not to mention all those poor souls who have to man the tills at retail outlets that stay open on Bank holidays.

But if you really want to stick to that line you might at least agree that the State should endeavour to make an out-of -pocket payment to all those affected. Or perhaps even better that the King sends condolences to all those affected. I will bet a lot of money that no one in the relevant positions has given that second thought.

You don’t think it’s a consideration if people are being asked to work a bank holiday? Supposing they are particularly anxious to watch the Queen’s funeral, which I imagine some people will be. I just think there are two sides to it, but you’re only looking at one. Why make it a bank holiday at all if people have to work?

The others you mention all work bank holidays and will understand that is part of their job.

Completely agree. 

@PragueAddick; you're wrong here, as Airman has explained. So just leave it there.

I'm quite happy to leave it there. Fortunately I  don't have to witness the mass hysteria up close and personal, See y'all on Tuesday

I haven't seen any "mass hysteria" at all. Or any hysteria of any kind. Far from it.

Even some of the news crews desperately trying to create an "angle" and shoving microphones into peoples faces in the queue or as they leave Westminster Hall seem to have been met with solemn and dignified responses in the main, from what I've seen.

Lucky you. 

I don't make a habit of watching BBC TV news any more. I just happened to land on it last night after finishing something pre-recorded.

They showed the moment when the cavalcade including the hearse arrived at Buckingham Palace. As it did a twirl around, and at relatively high speed,  people cheered and *whooped* as if it was an F1 car on a victory lap. That was the moment I said to myself I'm done with this. Definitely not my idea of dignified. 

And that really is my last word on this. I won't undignify this thread by introducing the issue of the protest arrests. That can wait until Tuesday as far as I'm concerned.

Oh thats really good of you....

MuttleyCAFC said:

I prefer the clapping to silence. Especially for a 96 year old where I believe it should be more about a celebration of a great life.

There is a time for clapping, but yesterday wasn't that time, it seemed to me to be inappropriate for such a solemn occasion.