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Jake Forster Caskey - waiting to hear if club will exercise 1 year option (p11)
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Regardless of who bodged the paperwork, it seems ridiculous that a team that really wanted the player is now without him whilst a team that clearly doesn't is stuck with him. Not a lot of fun for him either.9
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The CEO should be carpeting whichever muppet ballsed this up, failing to get costs off the books and treating a player so shabbily...Paddy7 said:Regardless of who bodged the paperwork, it seems ridiculous that a team that really wanted the player is now without him whilst a team that clearly doesn't is stuck with him. Not a lot of fun for him either.
Oh wait...
Who's supposed to be doing the CEO job..?
Ah...
(I'd better start looking over my shoulder for the danish mafia)1 -
Wonder where Jackson learnt the phrase ‘we worked tirelessly all day but just couldn’t get a deal over the line’0
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Garner claims lack of appearances is nothing to do with JFCs contract.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/ben-garner-charlton-midfielders-lack-of-league-one-game-time-not-down-to-contract-appearances-trigger/
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That makes Garner even dumber than I thoughtScoham said:Garner claims lack of appearances is nothing to do with JFCs contract.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/ben-garner-charlton-midfielders-lack-of-league-one-game-time-not-down-to-contract-appearances-trigger/12 -
To be fair, did Jake really put in a performance against Colchester to merit his inclusion in the First Team?
Did anyone from that team...7 -
Maybe not on that performance alone but I think he is of the calibre that should usually be in our 18 man match day squad. When match fit he looks a lot more comfortable on the ball than many of our other players. For example, Payne shows a lot of energy but there has been relatively little end product thus far. I would far rather JFC was coming on to replace Fraser or even starting ahead of him on occasions. I would give him some minutes in League games because he is not going to get match fit playing the occasional cup game.5
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So more bollocks that got repeated often enough that it became fact then.He’s suffered a couple of awful injuries. I understand he’s a fan favourite so it’s not welcomed to point out potential issues.
But like I said before, perhaps there’s a reason there was no League One interest when he was available during the summer window?4 -
Wasn't a fan of his but can't see him being any worse than Fraser. I'd play him at Lincoln.0
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Taylor.ForeverAddickted said:To be fair, did Jake really put in a performance against Colchester to merit his inclusion in the First Team?
Did anyone from that team...But people still basing opinion on JFC on what he was like a couple of years ago, pre injury. Since then I haven’t see enough of him to know if he can reach that standard again.0 -
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His argument will be that he was fit well before the end of last season, and wasn't given the chance to prove his fitness, both to us and other teams - Apparently too he's on a shite wage - Certainly doesnt sound like he's happy with the situation we've put him in, so wouldn't be surprised if he didnt have the full amount of commitment in training / pointless cup games as a result of those two thingsCallumcafc said:So more bollocks that got repeated often enough that it became fact then.He’s suffered a couple of awful injuries. I understand he’s a fan favourite so it’s not welcomed to point out potential issues.
But like I said before, perhaps there’s a reason there was no League One interest when he was available during the summer window?
Thought he looked average against Gillingham in the last round of the EFL Trophy
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That's a very respectful understatementSouthbank said:
That makes Garner even dumber than I thoughtScoham said:Garner claims lack of appearances is nothing to do with JFCs contract.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/ben-garner-charlton-midfielders-lack-of-league-one-game-time-not-down-to-contract-appearances-trigger/
Why mention the secretary's question if player payments aren't an issue? Not so much 'no smoke without fire' than 'liar liar pants on fire'.
A quarter of the season gone and the bald bungler has no idea what his best 18 or 11 might be nor much idea when to shut the fuck up. He's turning into a less cheerful Adkins.2 -
No, but JFC still outplayed Payne and McGrandles, who both will likely be in the squad tomorrowForeverAddickted said:To be fair, did Jake really put in a performance against Colchester to merit his inclusion in the First Team?
Did anyone from that team...4 -
So Garner has clarified that it is nothing to do with appearances triggering a pay rise and says he picks the team purely on what he sees on the training ground and in matches. The obvious follow up question is "Are you then not seeing enough effort from JFC on the training ground or in the cup matches to warrant him being in the match day squad.
I concede it is possible that the two ACL injuries may be catching up with JFC but as fans we are not seeing much evidence one way or another. On his day he was (is?) a good player and as said above, on Tuesday he was certainly better than Payne and McGrandles.2 -
Garner is completely bonkers if he doesnt reintegrate JFC back into the team steadily. He is bound to be rusty so he needs progressive minutes to get back to his best.
He is possibly the only player at the club who could still play at Championship level.2 -
Not sure I believe Garner, why specifically mention the conversation with the secretary?Callumcafc said:So more bollocks that got repeated often enough that it became fact then.He’s suffered a couple of awful injuries. I understand he’s a fan favourite so it’s not welcomed to point out potential issues.
But like I said before, perhaps there’s a reason there was no League One interest when he was available during the summer window?Your point about him having had injuries and not being the player he was would have more merit if we were doing well. I think it’s criminal he’s not had a chance if indeed it is for football reasons given our recent performances. Maybe this statement is to kick him a bit of a kick up the arse.4 -
No league 1 club wanted him because we wanted a fee and he had played 1 game in 14 months.Callumcafc said:So more bollocks that got repeated often enough that it became fact then.He’s suffered a couple of awful injuries. I understand he’s a fan favourite so it’s not welcomed to point out potential issues.
But like I said before, perhaps there’s a reason there was no League One interest when he was available during the summer window?
By the time the window "slammed shut" he had played 3 games in 16 months and we either wanted a fee or a loan until January.
If he is 90% of the player he was in 20/21, after his first ACL, he would be amongst the 1st handful of names on the team sheet.
It maybe factually correct that his inclusion in the league team doesn’t trigger payments/pay rises etc.
However it is his contract situation, that is the instigater for it. JFC isn't totally innocent in all this but the outcome is the worst possible scenario for both parties and could have been easily avoided at about 5 different points. Now both are stuck with the status quo until at least January.2 -
There is absolutely no way a fit JFC is not able to get into this current side based on ability alone. Something else is going on and I don't necessarily blame Garner for not airing it publicly either.3
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There is so much bollox comes out of the club these days I'm not even sure I believe that F-C's non-appearance at League level has nothing to do with money.
All I can say is after all the rubbish we have had to put up with this year from our midfield maestros Morgan, McGrandles and Payne (and even Fraser has hardly been a shining light) I just don't see why F-C hasn't been given a chance.
And if we don't want to play him, just come to some mutual agreement to cancel his contract. We can save on wages and F-C can fix himself up with a contract somewhere else and get on with his football life.4 -
Would have made sense before the window ended but not now (unless JFC fancies a stint in non league which seems unlikely).Fortune 82nd Minute said:There is so much bollox comes out of the club these days I'm not even sure I believe that F-C's non-appearance at League level has nothing to do with money.
All I can say is after all the rubbish we have had to put up with this year from our midfield maestros Morgan, McGrandles and Payne (and even Fraser has hardly been a shining light) I just don't see why F-C hasn't been given a chance.
And if we don't want to play him, just come to some mutual agreement to cancel his contract. We can save on wages and F-C can fix himself up with a contract somewhere else and get on with his football life.0 -
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Shame there wasn't the obvious follow up question as to why he's not even getting on the bench.4
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But you're basing that on what he was like before the serious injury. Aren't you?alburyaddick said:Garner is completely bonkers if he doesnt reintegrate JFC back into the team steadily. He is bound to be rusty so he needs progressive minutes to get back to his best.
He is possibly the only player at the club who could still play at Championship level.
I'm assuming it must have affected him, or else surely his quality would shine during training.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
But wouldn't people like Pearce and Steve Gallen be bigging him up to Garner, if he's still the player he once was.
If he is still the player he once was then sure, Garner is making a massive mistake.
Even if he's only 75% of what he was I'd give him a go.0 -
He can't do any worse than some of the other midfield incumbents. About time he was given sometime on the pitch in the league, even if it is from the bench.0
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Can a player who is a free agent not sign for a League club outside the transfer window?cafcfan1990 said:
Would have made sense before the window ended but not now (unless JFC fancies a stint in non league which seems unlikely).Fortune 82nd Minute said:There is so much bollox comes out of the club these days I'm not even sure I believe that F-C's non-appearance at League level has nothing to do with money.
All I can say is after all the rubbish we have had to put up with this year from our midfield maestros Morgan, McGrandles and Payne (and even Fraser has hardly been a shining light) I just don't see why F-C hasn't been given a chance.
And if we don't want to play him, just come to some mutual agreement to cancel his contract. We can save on wages and F-C can fix himself up with a contract somewhere else and get on with his football life.0 -
Only if he was released whilst the Transfer Window was openFortune 82nd Minute said:
Can a player who is a free agent not sign for a League club outside the transfer window?cafcfan1990 said:
Would have made sense before the window ended but not now (unless JFC fancies a stint in non league which seems unlikely).Fortune 82nd Minute said:There is so much bollox comes out of the club these days I'm not even sure I believe that F-C's non-appearance at League level has nothing to do with money.
All I can say is after all the rubbish we have had to put up with this year from our midfield maestros Morgan, McGrandles and Payne (and even Fraser has hardly been a shining light) I just don't see why F-C hasn't been given a chance.
And if we don't want to play him, just come to some mutual agreement to cancel his contract. We can save on wages and F-C can fix himself up with a contract somewhere else and get on with his football life.
Jake could sign for a club now if he got released, but wouldnt be allowed to play for them until January3 -
Fraser been excellent this season … and scoring goalsTEL said:Wasn't a fan of his but can't see him being any worse than Fraser. I'd play him at Lincoln.1 -
You think all our players have been excellent. So excellent that we at 16th and have won twice all seasonRonnieMoore said:
Fraser been excellent this season … and scoring goalsTEL said:Wasn't a fan of his but can't see him being any worse than Fraser. I'd play him at Lincoln.2 -
Really? He’s played what, two, three league one games in the last two seasons and yet he could still play at Championship level. On what do you base that? In my opinion, he was never that good and League One is his level based on previous experiences but maybe not even that now. The club were stupid in the summer by holding out for a fee and are now reaping the financial consequences of that. Probably a decision made by the same person who paid a 300k fee for Aneke and gave him a three and a half year contract. His initials might be MS.alburyaddick said:Garner is completely bonkers if he doesnt reintegrate JFC back into the team steadily. He is bound to be rusty so he needs progressive minutes to get back to his best.
He is possibly the only player at the club who could still play at Championship level.1 -
I’m baffled he’s not in the squad. Cannot get my head around it at all3
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You have a very low bar for excellence.RonnieMoore said:
Fraser been excellent this season … and scoring goalsTEL said:Wasn't a fan of his but can't see him being any worse than Fraser. I'd play him at Lincoln.2
