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Post-Match Thread: Burton Albion V Charlton Athletic FC Saturday 12th November 2022

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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    But swordfish said:
    Croydon said:
    A draw before the game would have been a crap result. A draw after being 2-0 up is criminal. 
    Not having been 3-2 down it isn't.
    Being 3-2 down after being 2-0 up is. A good rally in the last 15 shouldn't paper over how poor a performance that was. They had a free header pretty much every ball in the box and had the run of the midfield for the entire match 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    Wycombe and Oxford both top half now and climbing the table 
    Table now looking split in half almost exactly the way everyone expected before the season started. Just swap Exeter and MK.
  • Croydon said:
    A draw before the game would have been a crap result. A draw after being 2-0 up is criminal. 
    How about a draw after being 3-2 down?
    Still a crap result, but would take it as it was all we deserved after letting the 2 goal lead, and what should have been an easy three points, just go due to some basic defensive errors, thought Mac had an ok game and could not be blamed for any of the goals conceded..
  • Never been MacGillivray's greatest fan but credit where credit us due, he had a really good game today and made a number of good saves that kept us in the game.

    Inniss and Lavelle trying to pass out from the back is one of those things that just has you scratching your head at whoever thought that would be a good idea.

    As Croydon says above, don't be fooled by a good last 10 minutes. We should have been long buried by then.

    But at least this team has one thing. Resilience. That's another game where we have kept playing to the end and managed to scrape a result when it looked unlikely.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,210
    Quadruple still on with a wibble wobble. 
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    edited November 2022
    Croydon said:
    But swordfish said:
    Croydon said:
    A draw before the game would have been a crap result. A draw after being 2-0 up is criminal. 
    Not having been 3-2 down it isn't.
    Being 3-2 down after being 2-0 up is. A good rally in the last 15 shouldn't paper over how poor a performance that was. They had a free header pretty much every ball in the box and had the run of the midfield for the entire match 
    Had it stayed 3-2, there's a better case for arguing it was criminal, but it didn't and you said yourself we were second best. Picking up points from losing positions when playing badly is a positive and shows fighting spirit if nothing else.

    Going 4-2 up in the fourth minute of  injury time and drawing, now that's what I call criminal.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,501
    what a what an incredible and very strange game not sure how you can describe it .. you have to give Burton credit was not pretty but their direct , bullying pressing and set plays we never to grip with the whole game younger players struggled , never seen Inniss bulled like the number 14 did today they made very difficult for us . They never let midfield in the in the game by bypassing it most of the game .. but then two very goals out of nothing from Kirk we could not believe it and we just had to get to HT .. unfortunately a poor free kick was given incorrectly when SS was fouled then win the ball and Oshilaja headed in with Dobson really needing to do better . Second goal was just a mess , third goal not sure what Fraser left the ball for but really should be dealing with it but what a strike …. we looked dead and buried as BG said looked like we had given everything but then out of nothing Raki scores .. and then Raki only has to pass to CBT for a tap in and keeper making a great save from Payne in injury time we could have snatched it .. did we deserve it no …. 3-3 is a point gained 
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,153
    Never been MacGillivray's greatest fan but credit where credit us due, he had a really good game today and made a number of good saves that kept us in the game.

    Inniss and Lavelle trying to pass out from the back is one of those things that just has you scratching your head at whoever thought that would be a good idea.

    As Croydon says above, don't be fooled by a good last 10 minutes. We should have been long buried by then.

    But at least this team has one thing. Resilience. That's another game where we have kept playing to the end and managed to scrape a result when it looked unlikely.
    Certainly think Dazzler's been harsh marking him the lowest on the scores for fisting too much. Didn't see any of that myself... 
  • Never been MacGillivray's greatest fan but credit where credit us due, he had a really good game today and made a number of good saves that kept us in the game.

    Inniss and Lavelle trying to pass out from the back is one of those things that just has you scratching your head at whoever thought that would be a good idea.

    As Croydon says above, don't be fooled by a good last 10 minutes. We should have been long buried by then.

    But at least this team has one thing. Resilience. That's another game where we have kept playing to the end and managed to scrape a result when it looked unlikely.
    Certainly agree with this, we are anything but gutless as a team. 

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  • Jonniesta said:
    Never been MacGillivray's greatest fan but credit where credit us due, he had a really good game today and made a number of good saves that kept us in the game.

    Inniss and Lavelle trying to pass out from the back is one of those things that just has you scratching your head at whoever thought that would be a good idea.

    As Croydon says above, don't be fooled by a good last 10 minutes. We should have been long buried by then.

    But at least this team has one thing. Resilience. That's another game where we have kept playing to the end and managed to scrape a result when it looked unlikely.
    Certainly think Dazzler's been harsh marking him the lowest on the scores for fisting too much. Didn't see any of that myself... 
    I'm sure there is a joke there somewhere..!
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    I’m a glass half full guy and what with the injuries we have sustained to our defence I’d say we are doing alright. Wasn’t worried at 3-2 knowing we have game changers on the bench and I was proved right. 
  • That was our worst result of the season IMO
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    edited November 2022
    Lavelle is so pants, don’t like to verbal players but he can’t pass, can’t run, isn’t very strong, not good in the air. List goes on, Jason Pearce was far better and a lot of us were critical of Pearcey towards the end. 

    Stockley 2 goals in 18 league games so far, 1 of which being a penalty. Be very lucky if he hits 10 in 46 at this rate! 20 goal a season striker my arse 

    I would honestly make the best of a bad situation and stick him as a centre back instead of Lavelle, at least he will win some aerial duals and won’t waste a spot further up the pitch 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    Can't really be arsed anymore.

    I know I am alone with my views re Aneke & I accept that. What I don't accept is that CBT can't start a game.  He used to & he only missed a couple of games through injury. If he is now fully fit he should be back to where he was at the start of the season.....starting games, not coming on for 15/20 mins. And dont say he's more effective coming off the bench as teams are tiring then.......because I dont remember Giggs, Kanchelsis, Ronaldo in their prime not starting games due to this. Its bollox.Start with your best players.

    Today was unfortunate due to us missing 3 of our usual back 5. Even our GK gets injured in the warm up ! 

    It's all been said before. We shouldn't have started the season with no left back. We shouldn't be playing Chin there. We should have effective back up to Stockley THAT CAN START. 

    But I didnt expect much at the start of the season & nothings changed. We are still is a slightly false position & if we dont beat Port Vale next week we will be mid table & amongst the also rans like Fleetwood & Cambridge. 


  • Croydon said:
    But swordfish said:
    Croydon said:
    A draw before the game would have been a crap result. A draw after being 2-0 up is criminal. 
    Not having been 3-2 down it isn't.
    Being 3-2 down after being 2-0 up is. A good rally in the last 15 shouldn't paper over how poor a performance that was. They had a free header pretty much every ball in the box and had the run of the midfield for the entire match 
    Nailed it.
    This was a shocking performance papering over wider cracks than my a***.
  • Very disappointing to see a VERY prominent fan urinate on somebody's property after the game.
  • Jonniesta said:
    Never been MacGillivray's greatest fan but credit where credit us due, he had a really good game today and made a number of good saves that kept us in the game.

    Inniss and Lavelle trying to pass out from the back is one of those things that just has you scratching your head at whoever thought that would be a good idea.

    As Croydon says above, don't be fooled by a good last 10 minutes. We should have been long buried by then.

    But at least this team has one thing. Resilience. That's another game where we have kept playing to the end and managed to scrape a result when it looked unlikely.
    Certainly think Dazzler's been harsh marking him the lowest on the scores for fisting too much. Didn't see any of that myself... 
    Well, you wouldn't see it, would you?  But you'd certainly feel it!
  • Jonniesta said:
    Never been MacGillivray's greatest fan but credit where credit us due, he had a really good game today and made a number of good saves that kept us in the game.

    Inniss and Lavelle trying to pass out from the back is one of those things that just has you scratching your head at whoever thought that would be a good idea.

    As Croydon says above, don't be fooled by a good last 10 minutes. We should have been long buried by then.

    But at least this team has one thing. Resilience. That's another game where we have kept playing to the end and managed to scrape a result when it looked unlikely.
    Certainly think Dazzler's been harsh marking him the lowest on the scores for fisting too much. Didn't see any of that myself... 
    I'm sure there is a joke there somewhere..!
    Done, just for you.
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  • I don't know anything about the match, but what I do know is that Woolocott's injury is phoney, like Sterling's and Madison's.
  • 3G
    3G Posts: 730
    Five wins in 18 league games. Big questions for Garner now. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    Five wins in 18 league games. Big questions for Garner now. 
    How many of them have you watched? And - what do you expect of Garner beyond what he's doing? Yes, we could be 'defensively organised' and dour, but with this squad that'd be working out even worse probably
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    We are at the back. Garner wanted a left back, we didn’t get one and now we’re a full-back short. Unlucky with injuries at CB but we’re a decent one short, again something Garner knew over the summer. 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,909
    Really poor defence today. I would start Deji next game I cant see him being any worse than Lavelle today. How many times did he give the ball away trying to pass to someone ?
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    I’m not usually one to criticise players but Sam Lavelle is stealing a living with us. I’d sooner start Deji than him, bloke is a donkey. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    That was our worst result of the season IMO
    Disagree. Losing at home to the then bottom side was worst.....especially as we had been on a good run up to that point. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    Five wins in 18 league games. Big questions for Garner now. 
    We've lost almost the same number as we've won.