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Post-Match Thread: Burton Albion V Charlton Athletic FC Saturday 12th November 2022
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But none of them are fit to start.....so I keep being told.blackpool72 said:
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Golfie, everyone on here would love Chuks to start and have the impact that we all want, and you are spot on about the left back vacancy not being filled but and it's a big but, this is the world of Charlton Athletic a Third-tier football club whose best striker is not physically able to compete over 90 mins and guarantee that he will retain that same level of fitness or even be fit to play in the next game. A third tier football club where the owner has made mistakes that have cost him and is now trying to count every penny and reduce his losses by dismissing valued members of staff.golfaddick said:Can't really be arsed anymore.
I know I am alone with my views re Aneke & I accept that. What I don't accept is that CBT can't start a game. He used to & he only missed a couple of games through injury. If he is now fully fit he should be back to where he was at the start of the season.....starting games, not coming on for 15/20 mins. And dont say he's more effective coming off the bench as teams are tiring then.......because I dont remember Giggs, Kanchelsis, Ronaldo in their prime not starting games due to this. Its bollox.Start with your best players.
Today was unfortunate due to us missing 3 of our usual back 5. Even our GK gets injured in the warm up !
It's all been said before. We shouldn't have started the season with no left back. We shouldn't be playing Chin there. We should have effective back up to Stockley THAT CAN START.
But I didnt expect much at the start of the season & nothings changed. We are still is a slightly false position & if we dont beat Port Vale next week we will be mid table & amongst the also rans like Fleetwood & Cambridge.
Quite simply, it's where we are mate, it's where we are.24 -
Perhaps we would enjoy the season(s) more if we could make a couple of changes to the League structure. 1. We never have to play any side in the bottom 4, we just get the points cos we would have beaten them anyway 2. We only play any team in the Top 10 at home and 3. We qualify for the playoffs if we finish in the top 14.With those changes the porous defence and bothering to paper over the real issues become somewhat moot, while giving us the real hope of a play off place at least up to Christmas. 😀7
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Very very disappointed with Dobson today….I think it was possibly his worst performance since he joined us…..if I was giving him a mark out of 10 it would be a 4.
He is normally pivotal to our level of performance but today he was pretty much absent.
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Good summary cabbs and this is what mid table teams do. I predicted 12th this season and at this point confident I won’t be far offcabbles said:
I agree with this. I think we’re on course to achieve a similar season to last, albeit with nowhere near as bad a start, but we’re doing it in a different way and the games are slightly more entertaining.soapy_jones said:We are stuck in a limbo land of majority shitness with brief farts of expectation then a swift return to niggling stomach cramps. We are more than comfortable in this latrine of a league sometimes getting off the pot just as the dropped bog roll rolls out under the cubicle door!
Apart from that...
There’s brief pockets of decent play, the odd good performance, individually and collectively, but I think we’re quite far off the pace when it comes to being a decent side. You can argue that injuries have gone against us recently and I would agree, but take Kirk today as an example of our season. Comes in and scores two, but we might have to wait until January again for him to repeat that. CBT isn’t consistent enough, and our most effective player going forward can only come off the bench. JRS hasn’t been setting the world alight recently but scores today so again, highlights an inconsistency very common to a lot of our players.
I think to enjoy this season, expectations will have to be lowered and you’d have to accept that the team isn’t strong enough to go on a sustained run, even when we win a few in a row. For the 3 wins against Exeter, Pompey and Lincoln, we’ve now gone 3 without a win.1 -
Apathy abounds … minimum comments as we fumble our way through another season of third tier obscurity0
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Respect to Kirk for two decent finishes … i hope he continues to make me eat humble pie with goals even if he doesn’t want to get stuck in , make an effort or hurt himself during a game5
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The game was, at least, entertaining
My glass half full mentality towards Charlton leads me to have hope of the play offs still... we can put the ball away...so... if we can tighten it up at the back with the right signing/s, there has to be a chance
Plenty of positives from that game, as well as a whole bunch of glaring issues to fix4 -
We’ve been unlucky with defensive injuries but we look incapable of keeping clean sheets. You don’t win promotion with a shit defence and that’s what we’ve got.6
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Yep not only are we conceding a lot of goals, but we are also not keeping clean sheets either. No wonder we are drawing so many games.ShootersHillGuru said:We’ve been unlucky with defensive injuries but we look incapable of keeping clean sheets. You don’t win promotion with a shit defence and that’s what we’ve got.
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When you look at the table, top six is definitely still possible but we are going to have to strengthen in January and not be too far away. The defence was as fragile as I can remember today. I think some of it can be improved by work on organisation but only some.
In all honesty, their defence looked more fragile than ours but we didn't ask as many questions as they did. Another five minutes and one of us would have won it. I ca't honestly say which one of us. It was that sort of game.0 -
Don't worry about the result.
The highlight was 2 20 year old not knowing what a faggot was.
They sell them In the ground.1 -
“Fisting” - where’s that Kenneth Williams GIF?Jonniesta said:
Certainly think Dazzler's been harsh marking him the lowest on the scores for fisting too much. Didn't see any of that myself...Fortune 82nd Minute said:Never been MacGillivray's greatest fan but credit where credit us due, he had a really good game today and made a number of good saves that kept us in the game.
Inniss and Lavelle trying to pass out from the back is one of those things that just has you scratching your head at whoever thought that would be a good idea.
As Croydon says above, don't be fooled by a good last 10 minutes. We should have been long buried by then.
But at least this team has one thing. Resilience. That's another game where we have kept playing to the end and managed to scrape a result when it looked unlikely.0 -
Bilko said:Let’s be honest if Chuks could play 90 mins, he wouldn’t be playing for Charlton.
This 100%
If Chuks Aneke could play the majority of games he would be in a top end Championship side as one of the four strikers that rotate over a long season. Chuks can't so he is stuck at a mid table League 1 side. So on to Port Vale on the 19th November and Charlton are still waiting to beat a team in the bottom 12 of League 1 !
Perhaps I shouldn't accept we are a mid table League 1 side but there was a reason why I predicted we would draw today and go joint top with Fleetwood with games drawn.
When your two most dangerous attacking players spend so much time on the bench* how on earth are we ever going to win more League matches. One point at a time won't get you in the top six even if we don't lose that often in the mediocre Third tier.
*Ben Garner must be so frustrated with this situation which I'm not aware happens at any other club when two of your game changes mainly have to play cameos?
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“Fisting” - where’s that Kenneth Williams GIF?Jonniesta said:
Certainly think Dazzler's been harsh marking him the lowest on the scores for fisting too much. Didn't see any of that myself...Fortune 82nd Minute said:Never been MacGillivray's greatest fan but credit where credit us due, he had a really good game today and made a number of good saves that kept us in the game.
Inniss and Lavelle trying to pass out from the back is one of those things that just has you scratching your head at whoever thought that would be a good idea.
As Croydon says above, don't be fooled by a good last 10 minutes. We should have been long buried by then.
But at least this team has one thing. Resilience. That's another game where we have kept playing to the end and managed to scrape a result when it looked unlikely.
Only too pleased...😉4 -
A masterclass in defensive ineptitude, with the exception of Sessegnon and MacGillivray, and I thought we were fortunate to come away with a point. Burton outplayed us for most of the game, although we still managed to score three good goals, including two very neat lobs - something I can’t remember happening twice before in a game.Clare will be back next week and I do wonder whether it’s time to give Deji Elewere a go in central defence. Inniss and Lavelle were both very poor and we are missing O’Connell in a big way.Burton seemed to outnumber us in midfield and really should have put the game to bed after they went 3-2 ahead. Our substitutes had their customary impact - with CBT repeatedly roasting their left back - but the last 10 minutes were end to end and either side could have won it. We were incredibly open throughout and fortunate to come away with something from the game. In fairness, Burton played very well and looked anything but a bottom of the table side.
Frustrating in many respects but a good day out and we enjoyed the Burton pubs - the Devonshire Arms and the Coopers Tavern before the game and the Burton Bridge Inn and The Last Heretic post-match. Leaning on a terrace bar behind the goal also made a pleasant change.
It’s fair comment from Garner to say that we’re down to the bare bones with 7 or 8 players out but the reality is that the team and the squad are well short of what’s required to mount a serious challenge.11 -
MK done are way, way better (much, much less worse) than burton though, and we were awful in that game.golfaddick said:
Disagree. Losing at home to the then bottom side was worst.....especially as we had been on a good run up to that point.paulsturgess said:That was our worst result of the season IMOBurton were/are utterly fucking terrible, we lead 2-0 despite playing shit, still managed to spas it up and still managed to have sufficient chance to win it again later on, and if anything the fact we’d been on a run pre-MK made the result slightly less crucial.
we badly needed a win today and had it presented on a silver plate to us, gift wrapped with shedloads of icing + a free ford mondeo and a week in the seychelles with spending money on top and still managed to walk away with a wet weekend in Worthing1 -
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Should I keep saving for a May trip? Or should I have a kebab0
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Keep saving for a May trip. It's unlikely you'll need to book it, but you could spend the money on going somewhere nice instead, rather than having blown it on a succession of dodgy kebabs over the course of the season.LennyLowrent said:Should I keep saving for a May trip? Or should I have a kebab
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I'm a little confused here. I may get things wrong occasionally, but I always thought losing and getting 0 points was a worse result than drawing and getting 1. I never thought to see an argument suggesting otherwise, not even on here.paulsturgess said:
MK done are way, way better (much, much less worse) than burton though, and we were awful in that game.golfaddick said:
Disagree. Losing at home to the then bottom side was worst.....especially as we had been on a good run up to that point.paulsturgess said:That was our worst result of the season IMOBurton were/are utterly fucking terrible, we lead 2-0 despite playing shit, still managed to spas it up and still managed to have sufficient chance to win it again later on, and if anything the fact we’d been on a run pre-MK made the result slightly less crucial.
we badly needed a win today and had it presented on a silver plate to us, gift wrapped with shedloads of icing + a free ford mondeo and a week in the seychelles with spending money on top and still managed to walk away with a wet weekend in Worthing
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Lovely, Spring like day out for the Fanackapans for only their 2nd away match of the season. Lightweights ! Yes, we are mainly responsible for the encouraging increase in the number of international fans watching via Charlton TV as stated by our owner at the recent Zoom Q & A .....doh !
Zero problems en route & homewards for once with no sight of those dreaded diversion signs on the A21, although we could have missed them in the swirling fog that welcomed us back to E.Sussex.
Lovely lunch & catch up with our special (?) group of friends followed by a brisk walk to the stadium after a " Oh, just one more drink!" from someone whose name I shall not mention.
And what a great start from our lads with 2 strikes from an unexpected but welcome source. Surely a cricket score was on the cards ! But then reality kicked in ....and continued apace into the second half.
But for our replacement 'keeper, we could have been heading home with our tails between our legs, so thanks, Craig for those superb saves today.
Then at long last, the cavalry arrived led by unstoppable Col Chuks Custer & a glimmer of hope appeared on the darkening horizon. And with supreme finishing from young JRS, the finale was complete.
If we could clone this unique individual, then promotion would be a doddle.
BG's comment that we were running on fumes hit the spot for me. The irrepressible Dobbo was a mere shadow of the player we've come to love for his work rate & commitment was the stand out example. A week without the rigours of Cups must surely see a stronger, more composed squad travelling to Port Vale.
When he arrived in SE7, we were told that the gaffer's team would score goals but also concede with today being a prime example of this prediction. The success we've achieved in non league games thus far is undoubtedly a long awaited, welcome "distraction" but the question is whether we have the necessary depth of squad to continue what was an encouraging rise up L1. And whether our notorious injury record will scupper our ambition in all competitions....
We can but hope that against those odds & with it unlikely, IMO, that reinforcements will arrive in January, our battle scarred warriors will give their all for Ben & the faithful to the bitter end.6 -
We’d be a couple of places higher in the league if Bonne had signed on deadline day imoDazzler21 said:
Aneke was fit when originally signed, wasn't he? If we had kept him fit we might not be in League 1 again.Bilko said:Let’s be honest if Chuks could play 90 mins, he wouldn’t be playing for Charlton.
Also we played Bonne ahead of him at times when he was fit... There's a player that I'd prefer not to see again... But...1 -
1 goal from open play this season - regardless of his role in the team that’s not enoughtangoflash said:1 -
Seeing as we can't seem to beat teams below 12th position I suggest that we try losing our next 6 games & therefore drop into the bottom 4. Then we can beat all those above us & get promoted.
Genius.21 -
The defending/unforced errors for all three of Burton’s goals is so poor.0
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First 20 mins I thought Oshilaja was an attacking midfielder for them ….
he got boooo’d a little and the inevitable goal arrived for him
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Great atmosphere created by our travelling supporters
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After listening on CATV it sounded as though we were completely disorganised at the back, virtually from the get go.
Yes we are suffering an injury crisis (again), especially in defence, but we need squad players to step up, and the defence certainly didn't, Lavelle was out jumped and out fought.
Reinforcements are required in January and not just 1 body at the back, but at least 2, a CB and a LB, without doubt.
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