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Pre, Match & Post (p14) Thread| Plymouth Argyle vs Charlton Athletic (PJ2R)| Tues 22 November 2022

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  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    This game totally passed me by until about 5.30pm yesterday, when my boss - a Plymouth fan - said "huge game for us two tonight then!".

    I promptly forgot about it again until this morning, when he said "disappointing result for us lot yesterday mate, well done". Thought we'd won, but upon finding out we'd lost, I... I literally did not care at all.

    I think this competition is pretty pointless all told, and only serves to congest an already tight fixture list. But glad that some youngsters get a taste of (nominally) men's football and it doesn't seem like it was a disgraceful performance. There we go.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,503
    A glorified training game with some of the worst goals you're ever going to see. Modern coaches? I'll shit 'em.....
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    soapboxsam said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Just a general observation as didn't see the game:
    Cafc seem to have very good academy age groups especially the 16 to 18 age group But then the majority of players appear to stagnant.*  I know enough about youth/academy football to understand that is not unique to Charlton. The transition from boys to men's football is a giant leap and Arron Henry appears to be an example of this despite making his 1st team debut when just 16, also Deji who was my tip for bigger and better things along with Mason Burstow from that age group back in 2019/20.

    The sad truth is the fact that Kanu and Deji are still at Cafc in the cut throat world of football tells you that their progress has slowed but I still believe both can have good careers as professional footballers.

    Daniel Kanu has just turned 18 (November born 2004) so can he take his scoring for fun at every level so far to 1st team men's football ? Goal scorers are like gold dust so I don't see why not but you are only as good as the service you receive when you are in space. Marked closely by a Pearce or Inniss type 3rd tier CB can be a shock after youth football. 

    I wish everyone of our academy boys good luck as the odds are against 'making it'.

    *Aribo and Lookman were older when they joined Charlton, at 18 and 16 respectively.
    Lookman's Representatives picked Cafc after being assured he would get an opportunity for 1st team football by 18 if he made quick progress; the rest is history.
    Is Kanu's goalscoring record any better than Charlie Macdonald or Kevin Lisbie at youth level? Genuine question.
    Lisbie carved out a career at the highest level, albeit he was anything but prolific once he made the first team.
    Charlie Macdonald, meh.
    Kanu should get an opportunity to break through whilst we remain at this level but I don't see anything to get hyper excited about.
    I think I'm getting cynical in my old age

    Good question ?
    I can't remember anyone scoring as many as Kanu for the U18 but Paul Walsh was prolific for the youth team back in the day and was elevated to the first team when Daniel Kanu's age. 

    I'm cynical about the crazy goals given away by the mindless Jeopardy taken by keepers and defenders when pressed by the opposition.
    Ah yeh, but you could tell Walshie was something special from the off. Same with Defoe.
    Kanu not so much
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,739
    Elthamaddick said:
    genuinely amazed there were 101 fans who travelled down there for that

    It will include the players comps whether used or not. I expect they get at least two each.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    We're shite in the cups again!

    Yeh!
  • alburyaddick
    alburyaddick Posts: 574
    It would be an interesting question to ask Guardiola and Klopp - if you guys were managing a 3rd division team with players of limited technical ability would you choose to play it out from the back 
    I know it’s hypothetical nonsense but I would be interested in their answers 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    No

    and

    Nein nein

    Would be my guess.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited November 2022
    Airman Brown said:
    Elthamaddick said:
    genuinely amazed there were 101 fans who travelled down there for that

    It will include the players comps whether used or not. I expect they get at least two each.
    I think some of them had to take a parent to be allowed out that late...
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    clive said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6NfM19Byg4
    Just watched this, christ those two goals we gave them were awful, my grandsons under 11 team don’t give goals away like that 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,267
    eaststandmike said:
    clive said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6NfM19Byg4
    Just watched this, christ those two goals we gave them were awful, my grandsons under 11 team don’t give goals away like that 
    Just watched as well. Kind of goals i'd like an inquiry and an explanation for (in any other competition maybe). Awful. If they did that in a league game i'd paid to watch i would find it unforgivable.
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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    alburyaddick said:
    It would be an interesting question to ask Guardiola and Klopp - if you guys were managing a 3rd division team with players of limited technical ability would you choose to play it out from the back 
    I know it’s hypothetical nonsense but I would be interested in their answers 
    The answer would be "if my uncle had tits he would be my auntie" obviously.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    mattinfinland said:
    I thought Anderson took his goal really well. Was it also him that had that long range drive from outside the box that forced a good save? it is rare we see a Charlton midfielder pinning those on target. 
    That was Asiimwe 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Terrible defending.  Unforgiveable.   Even if the edict is to play out from the back those goals we gave away are piss poor.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    alburyaddick said:
    It would be an interesting question to ask Guardiola and Klopp - if you guys were managing a 3rd division team with players of limited technical ability would you choose to play it out from the back 
    I know it’s hypothetical nonsense but I would be interested in their answers 
    I’m sure they would given clubs have proven it can be done at this level, the current top two for example. Bowyer’s promotion side did it too, though they went more direct if they had to.

    Making those mistakes is a good opportunity for the youngsters to learn from it. Much rather that than Henry doing it in a league game.
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,408
    TellyTubby said:
    Elthamaddick said:
    genuinely amazed there were 101 fans who travelled down there for that
    I'm only 45 miles away. I couldn't be arsed to go or pay a tenner.

    Still followed the scores though.
    No. 
    Now I know we are in trouble.

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