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That Titanic submersible

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  • The banging noises a few days ago gave everyone hope but appears they were never alive in the first place. As others have said, at least they died via the easier route rather than counting down the hours.

    RIP
  • Well I suspect it blew up 4 days ago. I'd be interested in knowing how many dives that craft had been on and whether the body had just fatigued from the pressure stress after multiple dives.

  • Apparently, it was this particular Subs 4th Dive after 1 in each of the past 3 years. This was OceonGate's 3rd vessel they'd built and this was the largest as it was capable taking 5 passengers.

    Such a sad story despite their enormous wealth. They were all still someone's family member.

    I must say, like a lot on here, the moment that final bolt was tightened I'd have been screaming and flipping out and would have to get out. Baffles my why anyone would want to do it but each their own. R.I.P to all 5 and love to their families.
  • five preventable deaths .. even so, surely better to die suddenly through drowning/water pressure than slowly suffocating trapped inside a very confined space .. R I P .. and may the money scrimping unsavoury 'entrepreneur' behind the 'Titanic tourist trips' be prosecuted  to the full extent of the law
  • five preventable deaths .. even so, surely better to die suddenly through drowning/water pressure than slowly suffocating trapped inside a very confined space .. R I P .. and may the money scrimping unsavoury 'entrepreneur' behind the 'Titanic tourist trips' be prosecuted  to the full extent of the law
    If you mean the CEO behind the company, as far as I am aware he was the "pilot" of the craft.

    It's one of those occasions when we come to realise the value of regulations and standards, and slightly ironic that it was at the site of a previous disaster with led to major improvements in maritime safety.
  • Jessie said:
    I don't think that's weird. They just "suspected" it was the sound of an explosion. They weren't sure. Now that the debris has been found near the sound of explosion, they can be sure about their earlier suspicions.
    Exactly - imagine if they released this and focused the attention at the point and it wasn't the sub. Then the sub located a couple of miles away with notes from the passengers saying 'day 3, we still hold out hope of being found...' 
  • According to James Cameron, he said the info was shared right away, just not to the public. The sound on it's own wouldn't be conclusive even if it indicated what might have happened. I'd imagine that the authorities had a good idea what happened, but it was still spun into a drama until is was conclusively known what had happened.
  • I just can’t understand the engineering decisions made, unless he surrounded himself with yes-men, I know there’s the one guy who was sacked but I can’t understand how anybody  would have not spoken up considering the design decisions.
    if I’d have been in that design review I’d have offered my resignation on the spot!
  • He was .. there was/is also a co-founder of the company, but it seems he has left the organisation .. there are also a few 'money men' behind the founders .. I suppose they are free from blame as they had no control over how the business was run or how the craft were constructed
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  • Hal1x said:
    He promoted a service that had high risk, using unsafe equipment, no one said he dragged anyone along, but it was his actions and his submarine that caused others to die.
    But maybe they took a calculated risk as several previous dives had completed successfully. 

    It seems like the implosion occurred because of a build up of stress on the structure from previous dives. The CEO did know this risk and who knows if he actually conveyed that message to the passengers. 
  • edited June 2023
    The CEO (RIP) was criminally reckless in his attitude to safety. Ignored expert advice and disregarded all warnings. 
  • Reckless!!
  • "OceanGate has stated that the Titan completed over 50 test dives, including to depths similar to those of the Titanic, both in waters around the Bahamas as well as in a pressure chamber."

    Even though not all dives were to the same depths, or even in open sea, and giving them the benefit of doubt; one catastrophic failure out of fifty, ain't really a good safety record. 
  • Gribbo said:
    "OceanGate has stated that the Titan completed over 50 test dives, including to depths similar to those of the Titanic, both in waters around the Bahamas as well as in a pressure chamber."

    Even though not all dives were to the same depths, or even in open sea, and giving them the benefit of doubt; one catastrophic failure out of fifty, ain't really a good safety record. 
    I think it’s the obvious arrogance of the CEO in flying in the face of all expert advice and opinion regarding the safety of the vessel. That’s unforgivable. 
  • Obviously tragic. Now watch the american legal system go full blast. Hope the operators had good insurance - they'll need it - signed waivers or not.
  • Chizz said:
    Wendy Rush, the wife of the CEO who perished is a descendant of two Titanic victims 
    That would have made a decent Yankee 
  • Obviously tragic. Now watch the american legal system go full blast. Hope the operators had good insurance - they'll need it - signed waivers or not.
     Wasn't the pilot the owner and operator?

    Good luck suing him.
  • Dazzler21 said:
     Wasn't the pilot the owner and operator?

    Good luck suing him.
    Presumably it's a public company, not just a one man band.
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  • Presumably it's a public company, not just a one man band.
    It was a company, whether it was private or public who knows. 
  • McBobbin said:
    According to James Cameron, he said the info was shared right away, just not to the public. The sound on it's own wouldn't be conclusive even if it indicated what might have happened. I'd imagine that the authorities had a good idea what happened, but it was still spun into a drama until is was conclusively known what had happened.
    Without taking away from the gravity of the situation I can't wait for James Cameron to give his opinion when someone builds a buff Austrian cyborg using ChatGPT.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    It was a company, whether it was private or public who knows. 
    Privately owned 
  • bobmunro said:
    James Cameron was on the radio when I was driving in this morning. He had been told of the sound detected on Sunday that occurred at about the time all contact was lost. He also added that the sonar blip mechanism was separately battery powered whereas the comms were powered from a generator - to lose both at the same time meant there was only one explanation and that as soon as they could get a ROV down there they would find the debris in minutes, directly below the point (3000m) when contact was lost. 

    It is highly likely they died instantly without any warning, and there is some small solace in that.

    RIP

    James Cameron visited the wreck of the Titanic 33 times in the making of his film.  So he certainly knows what he is talking about.
  • JaShea99 said:
    Reckless!!

    Indeed! Recklessness of titanic
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Without taking away from the gravity of the situation I can't wait for James Cameron to give his opinion when someone builds a buff Austrian cyborg using ChatGPT.

    Yeah :D
    What?
  • At a quarter of a million dollars a trip? If there are other means of seeing it it makes going in the mini capsule even more bizarre.
  • I wouldn't thrust his judgement he still hired that Celine Dion to go on Dan Don.
  • I get on a train to work most days. Doesn't mean I'm a rail crash investigator all of a sudden.
  • He's also been in a one man submersible that went considerably deeper than even the Titanic dive, and has done quite a lot of research and exploration regarding deep oceans.

    He probably really does know what he's talking about.
  • You would think the structure of these things shouldn't be strong enough to withold the pressures but at least twice as strong.  It is the principle which makes air travel relatively safe. We will have to wait for the enquiry to get more information.
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