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ECB’s “The Hundred”
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Saw some highlights as had sky Sports News on last night, and I really really hate the graphics they use for the scores etc.4
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IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.7 -
IAgree said:moutuakilla said:Be good if they would promote the county game during this, mention some games people could go and see in the one day game. Get some games on terrestrial and the counties are hardly mentioned.
The shorter formats, and I include T20 in this, do make for potentially closer and more exciting finishes, and I like the idea of having a player draft recruitment system to even up competition. A bit early to judge how well that's working this year though.
It's cricket, just not as you and many others like it and I get that. My preference is for test cricket and T20, but I'll watch anything that moves if on readily available TV.
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MuttleyCAFC said:Was very entertaining last night.
For 80/90% of the game there was no atmosphere whatsoever. It was like being at a Fulham game! And even a screaming presenter couldnt raise the crowd.
OK the last 10 or so balls were interesting but surely a game has to be more than that to make it entertaining.3 -
Fortune 82nd Minute said:MuttleyCAFC said:Was very entertaining last night.
For 80/90% of the game there was no atmosphere whatsoever. It was like being at a Fulham game! And even a screaming presenter couldnt raise the crowd.
OK the last 10 or so balls were interesting but surely a game has to be more than that to make it entertaining.0 -
Well it was lashing all day & once the women’s game was cancelled we didn’t expect to get any cricket at all. But the weather gods were clearly on my side & we got 40 balls a side & boy did they deliver.
Delighted the Welsh won & I finally got to say, ‘the batsmen’s Holden the bowlers Willy’ to the delight of all around me! 🤣🤣🤣
Then off to the Old Arcade for a Brains & to watch the Invincibles beat the Spirit.
Curry picked up on the way home.
Happy Smudge 😎5 -
Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.3 -
PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.2 -
Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.2 - Sponsored links:
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PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.0 -
Never look at year 1 start up costs, especially as there were costs from aborting in 2020, let’s see what the numbers are like for ‘22.
as for ticket sales, it isn’t exactly easy to get tickets for London games as I’ve found out this week0 -
PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.I don’t know the answer but IMO the county game cannot continue churning out the same product to the same low numbers of spectators if the numbers don’t add up.1 -
Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.1 -
PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.
The relationship between ECB revenue generation (England sponsorship and ticket receipts, The Hundred sponsorship and ticket receipts, broadcast revenues and so forth) and the "counties" is symbiotic. If there's a winner, or a loser, it's cricket.0 -
Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.
The relationship between ECB revenue generation (England sponsorship and ticket receipts, The Hundred sponsorship and ticket receipts, broadcast revenues and so forth) and the "counties" is symbiotic. If there's a winner, or a loser, it's cricket.0 -
PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.
The relationship between ECB revenue generation (England sponsorship and ticket receipts, The Hundred sponsorship and ticket receipts, broadcast revenues and so forth) and the "counties" is symbiotic. If there's a winner, or a loser, it's cricket.0 -
Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.
The relationship between ECB revenue generation (England sponsorship and ticket receipts, The Hundred sponsorship and ticket receipts, broadcast revenues and so forth) and the "counties" is symbiotic. If there's a winner, or a loser, it's cricket.1 -
billysboots said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:PrincessFiona said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Chizz said:IAgree said:Anyway I’m starting to sound grumpy and some of you enjoy the format
I shall return next year with further scathing comments……
It would be very odd if everyone liked all forms of cricket - there's a lot to choose from these days. In many ways, cricket has changed in the last fifty years from being one format (like, say, football) to being two formats when ODIs were introduced (like rugby with XV and VII versions of the game) to the multi-format sport we have now (now, perhaps, closely mirroring cycling). The Hundred is not my favourite, but also far from being the worst (in my view).
Test cricket offers the supreme in cerebral conflict; T20Is offer a quick fix of international combat; The Hundred offers fans the chance to watch very high quality matches in both men's and women's sport. These are all good things.
Around half a million tickets will be sold to watch The Hundred this month. That's a huge number of people engaged and excited by a sport within a very short period of time. Much more than the Ryder Cup; about the same as Wimbledon; about half as many as the Six Nations. As a gateway drug for spectators to Test cricket, that would be a very good thing.
If you don't like it, no-one is going to force you to. But some people will progress from attending their first games in The Hundred to watching even better formats in the future. I like that.
My view is that anyone can decide for themselves whether they like it; and it seems that many people do.I don’t know the answer but IMO the county game cannot continue churning out the same product to the same low numbers of spectators if the numbers don’t add up.0 -
The current TV deal between the ECB and Sky/BBC has been extended until 2028, this includes the Hundred, so it'll last until then.
The plan is from next year for 90 hours of live domestic cricket across Sky/BBC per year. This doesn't include England overseas tours where the broadcast rights are owned by other cricket boards. If you are interested the broadcast rights for the international world cup (T20 and 50 over formats) and other ICC sanctioned events are owned by Star Sports of India who have that contract for years to come, they then sell them on to other national broadcasters. Star are owned by Disney (who bought it from Fox 21st Century a few years back).
I think the Hundred is good for the Women's game giving it a higher profile etc, but it's a negative for the Men's game, the 50 Over One Day cup began this week (England are only the current world champions) and has been relegated in importance, many of the best players are heading for the Hundred instead including most Test players.
The Hundred's popularity might have something to do with it being virtually the only live cricket on terrestrial TV but from anecdotal evidence it seems to be mostly popular with families wanting to keep their children/grandchildren occupied in school holidays rather than because it has any intrinsic sporting value. Whether it has any financial value is moot. It has soaked up a lot of start up money from the ECB and needs to start paying something back. If not then the ECB will deserve an award for destroying the 50 Over format and wasting money on a competition that few people want (other than the commentators who are contractually obliged to get giddy with excitement on command).
I'd rather that the T20 format was extended, perhaps by bringing in a few new franchise teams in say Scotland/Ireland/Norn Iron to take the game to parts of the British Isles that currently have little or no First Class cricket. The problem with this idea was that the ECB wanted to crowbar some extra money out of Sky and get some live cricket on the BBC, the existing broadcast rights contract made that impossible so a new format was dreamt up. It'll be interesting to see whether the Hundred survives after 2028 when the new broadcast contract kicks in. I can see it being kicked into touch and the BBC bidding for some T20 Blast matches instead. There's been an idea floating around that one live Test per year could be shown on terrestrial TV (i.e. one of the Lord's Tests) that could work but the BBC (or ITV, C4 etc) can't really compete with Sky's deeper pockets and while the latter are happy to see cricket broadcast on the BBC they don't want to hand over too much lest people start cancelling their subscriptions.
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Do some posters think that their opinion of the Hundred should define it as an experience for all. Saying it's not cricket, it's no good, and it's not entertaining are all subjective judgements, not fact.
I like it, along with other forms of cricket, all of which I find entertaining. That's just personal preference and nothing anyone says can influence how I feel watching it.
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swordfish said:Do some posters think that their opinion of the Hundred should define it as an experience for all. Saying it's not cricket, it's no good, and it's not entertaining are all subjective judgements, not fact.
I like it, along with other forms of cricket, all of which I find entertaining. That's just personal preference and nothing anyone says can influence how I feel watching it.0 -
Rothko said:Never look at year 1 start up costs, especially as there were costs from aborting in 2020, let’s see what the numbers are like for ‘22.
as for ticket sales, it isn’t exactly easy to get tickets for London games as I’ve found out this week2 -
swordfish said:Do some posters think that their opinion of the Hundred should define it as an experience for all. Saying it's not cricket, it's no good, and it's not entertaining are all subjective judgements, not fact.
I like it, along with other forms of cricket, all of which I find entertaining. That's just personal preference and nothing anyone says can influence how I feel watching it.
The ECB binned the 40 Over competition because no other nation played that format, they wanted players to develop their skills in red ball FC cricket plusT20 and 50 Over cricket as these were played internationally. Now they've introduced a 100 ball game because something, actually it was to make money and plug a few financial holes and fit neatly into the evening TV schedules and not over-run with the 10PM news.
Good batsmen are having to develop their games now to play four separate formats which isn't good for them. You can see the effects of T20 franchise cricket in the lack of batsmen able to play at opener/number three for our Test team. We simply aren't giving batsmen the opportunity to play long innings and County sides are preferring to contract players who have a white ball game because that's where the money is.
Personally I consider the Hundred to be a grievous crime against cricket and humanity, whether that's objective or subjective I don't really care.7 -
Fortune 82nd Minute said:Rothko said:Never look at year 1 start up costs, especially as there were costs from aborting in 2020, let’s see what the numbers are like for ‘22.
as for ticket sales, it isn’t exactly easy to get tickets for London games as I’ve found out this week
5 Ashes Tests at Lord's please .2 -
FSLN1 said:swordfish said:Do some posters think that their opinion of the Hundred should define it as an experience for all. Saying it's not cricket, it's no good, and it's not entertaining are all subjective judgements, not fact.
I like it, along with other forms of cricket, all of which I find entertaining. That's just personal preference and nothing anyone says can influence how I feel watching it.
The ECB binned the 40 Over competition because no other nation played that format, they wanted players to develop their skills in red ball FC cricket plusT20 and 50 Over cricket as these were played internationally. Now they've introduced a 100 ball game because something, actually it was to make money and plug a few financial holes and fit neatly into the evening TV schedules and not over-run with the 10PM news.
Good batsmen are having to develop their games now to play four separate formats which isn't good for them. You can see the effects of T20 franchise cricket in the lack of batsmen able to play at opener/number three for our Test team. We simply aren't giving batsmen the opportunity to play long innings and County sides are preferring to contract players who have a white ball game because that's where the money is.
Personally I consider the Hundred to be a grievous crime against cricket and humanity, whether that's objective or subjective I don't really care.
In terms of the game itself, I don't regard the Hundred as so different to T20 and didn't see the need for both, but it's here and widely accessible, so I watch it and have seen games I've enjoyed, both men's and women's, irrespective of the razzmatazz.
A grievous crime against humanity? Don't make yourself look so ridiculous.
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Another close ending! Southern Brave beat Welsh Fire1
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What a finish - Tie at the Oval0
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Could have been rained off for the points they get for that entertainment. Oval manage a draw by millimetres.Women invincibles lost earlier with a terrible tally posted. Almost the lowest in hundred history.0
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One of the attractions (not for me but I assume others) of The Hundred is that the shorter you make a game the greater the chance of a close finish. This forgets the fact that a one-sided game is dull (IMHO).1