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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446

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  • edited August 2023
    Cafc43v3r said:
    There are dozens of posts saying we only need one more striker, or people saying we are only after one more and being happy with that.  Or that we should wait to get the one and sod the second. 

    So literally more than one person thinks that. 

    You said people are saying 1 star striker is enough. Presumably May is our star striker. One additional striker would be enough. May on his own would not be enough.
  • Southbank said:
    Dean Holden 'We’re still nowhere near where we want to get to as a team, of course, '
    Exactly
    Oh well there's always next season  :D


  • Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but thought it was relevant because ourselves and Derby were linked with Alfie May originally, also sheds some light on how a Derby fan said we outdid Derby by quite an amount in landing May.

    If Derby are so bad financially that they can't afford to pay Lech Poznan 1.5million, so much so that it would bankrupt them, surely they can't make any further signings? 

    Seems like promotion is a must for them. Credit to Lech Poznan for letting it go, but at the same time hardly seems right.



    Further confirmation from their press manager 
    EFL got no bollocks can you see Charlton getting the chances these clubs get.. 

  • EFL got no bollocks can you see Charlton getting the chances these clubs get.. 

    Yes, they want to avoid clubs going out of business.
  • EFL got no bollocks can you see Charlton getting the chances these clubs get.. 

    Mate they let us start the season when even the owners didn't know who owned us.
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  • Redrobo said:
    I thought not paying a football debt was considered serious, which is why football debts must be paid first if a Club goes into administration?
    The fact that the debt has been forgiven should not IMO stop the EFL from punishing the Club.
    I don’t think it is a good look for Clubs to buy players they can’t afford and let’s face it, it is basically cheating.
    It brings football into disrepute and damages our reputation abroad. They should have points deducted.
    I was disagreeing with the idea that we’d be treated differently to Derby. As said above they let us start the season during the ESI v1 and v2 nonsense.

  • You said people are saying 1 star striker is enough. Presumably May is our star striker. One additional striker would be enough. May on his own would not be enough.
    We are talking about signing players.  One more star striker, Nombe, Lapado, JCH who ever isn't enough, we need a 4th adult striker, if we are going to play two up front.

    You always need a striker on the bench and normally, especially with 5 subs, you will bring them on.  
  • se9addick said:
    Dangerous game to play.
    It is i agree but maybe im just an pragmatic optimist
  • Wouldn't be surprised to see Smith reunited with Paul Warne. Also Derby supposedly in for Martyn Waghorn on a free. 
  • The big problem we have is Chuks A&E.

    In 2023 he has been out injured since February. 

    Even before this latest injury in February, he only appeared as a sub in a few matches, where in my opinion watching as a spectator he definitely lacked mobility.

    Let’s us be realistic, he is never going to be fit, and
    his playing days are over.

    Therefore he should be medically retired.

    We need a forward capable of playing 30 or 35 matches a season, not a forward capable of playing 30 or 35 minutes once or twice a month, if we are lucky.
    This isnt Chuks fault though as much as i agree. We gave him a silly contract knowing his problems.

    If im Chuks in his situation i wouldnt go unless Charlton paid up my contract (which what i think we should do to free up space on wage bill).

    I used to do some Cyber Sec consulting and on a couple of occassions companies came to me wanting to cancel contract mid-period for budget reasons brought on by C-19, revenue etc not once did i entertain the idea unless they paid me for the whole period. Chuks is in a similar position but even worse as this is more than likely his last contract. Why would he walk ?
  • J BLOCK said:
    How can they still be in the market of buying players/offering contracts when they can't pay other clubs the fees they owe. 

    They did this in the Champ with a stupid gamble on the Prem, it stinks. 
    Is that story not an old one from when they nearly went bust last summer? I think they are fine now after their takeover last year 
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  • This isnt Chuks fault though as much as i agree. We gave him a silly contract knowing his problems.

    If im Chuks in his situation i wouldnt go unless Charlton paid up my contract (which what i think we should do to free up space on wage bill).

    I used to do some Cyber Sec consulting and on a couple of occassions companies came to me wanting to cancel contract mid-period for budget reasons brought on by C-19, revenue etc not once did i entertain the idea unless they paid me for the whole period. Chuks is in a similar position but even worse as this is more than likely his last contract. Why would he walk ?
    How would paying his contract up free up wages?
  • edited August 2023
    arny23394 said:
    How would paying his contract up free up wages?
    Every year there is a budget for wages,

    Lets say for sake of argument our budget for whole squad is 120k a month and he is getting paid 10k a month with a  year left on contract.

    The club has the option of swallowing the bullet and paying him the rest of his contract which would mean we pay 10k a month less which we could spend on other players.

    Now the argument against would be that we would still pay him his contract just in one go instead of bit by bit so its if the club decide they would rather just offload him. Another argument for releasing him is that there are additional fees incurred by the club (which dont go to Chuks) to keep him as there are for any other employees I.E. payroll, equipment, catering, travel etc

    Also i assume he is still getting treated by our physios who could be spending more time on other players.
  • RC_CAFC said:
    If his name’s not Matt, we’re not interested.
    Ticks the former player box though 
  • edited August 2023
    NabySarr said:
    How would paying Chuks off free up space on the wage bill? We will still have to pay the full wages he is owed so that money is still gone to Chuks rather than saving us any to use on other players. 

    There is no point paying him off, as you say he will rightly want the full amount he is owed, so we might as well pay it to him over 2 years and use him when we can rather than just losing the full amount now and not being able to use him 
    Just answered this above. The idea that its just paying him the full contract is a simplistic naive understanding of financies for a business.

    As said there are additional costs also based on employing. We also insure our players, remember that. If we decide to carry on using him and he gets injured again we will no doubt pay premiums on him and the cost of rehab as well.

    Also forecast spending is a useful tool in deciding how to budget. You can try to reclaim the money from else where. Lets say for example you have 10k a more month but have paid 110k to free that up. You sign two players on 4k a month thats 8k. You are now paying 2k less so over a time period you will actually save money by getting a player who cant play out the door.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Ticks the former player box though 
    Played for Swindon as well
  • NabySarr said:
    We won’t pay 10k lees though as that money has already been spent and taken from the total budget in paying him off. It doesn’t make sense at all to pay him off so it’s not going to happen

    Hes probably on at least £5k a week, so the total pay off would be at least £500k. Would be stupid to pay that all in one go 
    I explained it in a bit more detail in your other post.

    Also i know he is NOT on 5k a week.

    The idea that its just paying him the full contract is a simplistic naive understanding of financies for a business.

    As said there are additional costs also based on employing. We also insure our players, remember that. If we decide to carry on using him and he gets injured again we will no doubt pay premiums on him and the cost of rehab as well.

    Also forecast spending is a useful tool in deciding how to budget. You can try to reclaim the money from else where. Lets say for example you have 10k a more month but have paid 110k to free that up. You sign two players on 4k a month thats 8k. You are now paying 2k less so over a time period you will actually save money by getting a player who cant play out the door.
  • Every year there is a budget for wages,

    Lets say for sake of argument our budget for whole squad is 120k a month and he is getting paid 10k a month with a  year left on contract.

    The club has the option of swallowing the bullet and paying him the rest of his contract which would mean we pay 10k a month less which we could spend on other players.

    Now the argument against would be that we would still pay him his contract just in one go instead of bit by bit so its if the club decide they would rather just offload him. Another argument for releasing him is that there are additional fees incurred by the club (which dont go to Chuks) to keep him as there are for any other employees I.E. payroll, equipment, catering, travel etc

    Also i assume he is still getting treated by our physios who could be spending more time on other players.
    He has 18 months left on a contract which is, I understand, £7k per week. That’s about £540k to pay him off.  I take it you’re just magicking up a different budget to “swallow this” in order to free up your salary budget and buy other players? 🤦🏻‍♂️

    p.s. I certainly wouldn’t have thought of re-hiring you after the pandemic with that attitude. There are plenty of cyber sec options out there. 


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