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Scott Fraser - pg 36 - left by mutual consent

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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,653
    edited August 2023
    I wonder if there were Charlton fans back in the 80’s slagging Alan Simonnsen off because he didn’t run around a lot, and put in crunching tackles on players.

    You need different styles of players to get out of this division, brain as well as brawn.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,678
    Scored 9 in 42 in an absolutely terrible side last season. At the heart of most things we do in an attacking sense. If he was a complete footballer in he wouldn't be in League 1.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    I do think he'll do well this season. I just don't think he played very well on Saturday and he continues to look unfit. 

    Maybe that is just him. He's been here long enough to start showing us otherwise. He can twist and turn on the ball, but maybe he just has no comparative pace or stamina. 
    Football is a funny old sport and divided by opinions. I think the opposite, he sets up a lot of our forward moves, covers the grass well, and looks to make something happen. 
    I can see both sides. I do see how he's not really an all action type and has a fairly languid style in general BUT I don't think that doing lots of running and tackling suits his strengths anyway.

    He's better suited to being in the right place at the right moment to pick out the likes of May and CBT. In an Ideal world he'd do that AND bring more dynamism too but if he was that good he wouldn't be in L1 anyway.
  • Definitely more of a fine bottle of wine, rather than a pint of fosters.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Anyone have access to running stats from Saturday would be interested to see? I think he covers the pitch well, others don't. would be good to see the stats on it
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    I quite like Fraser myself. He knits play nicely. I do think we've missed his ability to just keep the ball and provide some variety in passing. 
  • mendonca said:
    I quite like Fraser myself. He knits play nicely. I do think we've missed his ability to just keep the ball and provide some variety in passing. 
    Agreed. Think we miss his quality in the final 3rd. Definitely one player who benefits from CBT in the team, as by CBT being double marked by two players it usually gives him extra space and time on the ball. 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    I rate Fraser! 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    I rate Fraser's ability though his work rate can often be lacking. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,336
    The best technical and most creative player we have. Will be missed next few games. 

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    Our best creative player, though whether he's good enough is I guess debatable. Slightly worrying that McKenna at Ipswich was happy to be rid of him.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    When is he due back?

  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    Redhenry said:
    When is he due back?

    I’ve been wondering this. I can’t remember the club putting out and timeline and I’ve noticed he’s back up Scotland with his family. 

    Sounds like a long-term injury. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    Our standout player in pre-season really, few games in and......yep.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Redhenry said:
    When is he due back?

    Keeping it quiet it seems.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    For all of my criticisms of Holden and how much he's getting out of this squad, we do miss Fraser. He is good at moving the ball up the field, and has shown a cutting edge in the final third that I wasn't expecting. Camara and Payne can do parts of what Fraser does, but they aren't the technicians that Fraser is. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,178
    back on the grass from the looks of things 
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,984
    edited September 2023
    fenaddick said:
    back on the grass from the looks of things 
    Well spotted lol
  • Stewart
    Stewart Posts: 2,451
    Like the white training top. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    It will be like a new signing...

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited September 2023
    Scored 9 in 42 in an absolutely terrible side last season. At the heart of most things we do in an attacking sense. If he was a complete footballer in he wouldn't be in League 1.

    Charlton finished 10th out of 24 so we were bang average rather than Terrible.

    Totally agree about Scott Fraser, don't think he has ever played higher than League 1 and it's quite obvious why he hasn't but when fit he still starts. It's for all the other midfielder to be stronger, fitter, mobile and skilful to take his place. He scores more than our other midfielders and a few assists so let's replace players when we get better, not before.
    I still like Scott as a player and mobile players around him will help.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Cafc43v3r said:
    It will be like a new signing...

    A great cliche but with both Leaburn and Fraser coming back, Alfie May will be happy and so should the fans and Critics.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    The good thing is that with Chempbell apparently hitting the ground running (2 assists in 2 games) Fraser will legitimately have to earn his place back and not just get back in because he's the only option there.

    Watson II also looks like he could possibly do a job there too which is positive.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,804
    Chem & Fraser are different types of players though. No?
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    Rob said:
    Chem & Fraser are different types of players though. No?
    In how they play yes. But in more general terms Chem seems to be the one who is filling the main creative role formerly occupied by Fraser, inasmuch as what they bring to the team overall.


  • After all that it looks like Fraser will actually beat Camara back.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    After all that it looks like Fraser will actually beat Camara back.
    After all what? I've not seen many updates apart from a calf impact for Fraser and minor foot niggle for Camara.
  • mendonca said:
    After all that it looks like Fraser will actually beat Camara back.
    After all what? I've not seen many updates apart from a calf impact for Fraser and minor foot niggle for Camara.
    Once the Charlton medical department get their hands on a minor niggle, that's a 4 month absence. He'll be out until Christmas, play one game then get recalled by Ipswich and sold to Peterborough where he'll plays every minute for the rest of the season...
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,785
    edited September 2023
    mendonca said:
    After all that it looks like Fraser will actually beat Camara back.
    After all what? I've not seen many updates apart from a calf impact for Fraser and minor foot niggle for Camara.
    In an Instagram post, Fraser was back on the grass today. Still in the dark on Camara.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Saviour?