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  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,903
    RonnieMoore said:
    vff said:
    I applaud 👏 Scott & Methven looking at managers with League 2 & National League experience. Its a win all round for Charlton. Excellent to have a manager experienced in League 2 & National League given the direction Methven, Scott & his pals club are sending the club in.

    These L2 / unemployed managers will also be cheap to hire & fire & perfect for pinning the blame on & distracting from the Methven & Scott genius strategy -  when everything goes even more pearshaped. 
    Charlton supporters have the added benefit of getting used to the standard of football coming our wayin future seasons, so its not too much of a shock. Throw ins should improve though. Happy days !

    Methven can also get those costs down by getting the budget down to national league / league two levels. Man of his word is Charlie. Not sure 🤔 why any Charlton supporter is unhappy given Scott & Methven solid preparation for the future. 
    Our best manager ever was not even a manager but a coach when he joined us and had never been a manager …… all managers have to start somewhere even Pep and co needed that break 
    Your faith in Methven & leaping to his defence in the face of evidence & current shambles is admirable & touching, brought a tear to my eye 😂 Example to us all. 
  • benno44
    benno44 Posts: 22
    If it is to be Challinor then why not?

    A good recent record, and potentially a "young, hungry" manager.

    Historically Eddie Firmani ,Lennie Lawrence,Alan Curbishley , Chris Powell and Lee Bowyer managed us successfully without any pedigree of success as managers. I think for all of them it was their first job in management. 

    We could have gone for the Cowleys.I like them.They talk a lot of sense but after great success at Lincoln are on a merry go round of recent disappointments. Sacked by Portsmouth last season!

    Darren Moore did well at Wednesday in the end. What a turnaround at Hillsborough in the 2nd leg and a lot down to his management of the team in the week leading up to the game.But after their collapse towards the end of the season many Wednesday fans lost faith in his tactics.There was even talk of his being sacked after their abysmal performance at Forest Green near the end of the season. 

    This could be thinking outside of the box and doing something a little bit different.Let's give the guy a chance - if it is him!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,890
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedRobin said:
    MattF said:
    Hilarious!!
    Same bloke that said he was gone, on a different account, about 6 hours ago.
    Probably a Nigel in his bedroom playing with himself on a wind up.
  • MickeyBennett
    MickeyBennett Posts: 681
    Why did Charlie Methven and his silly mates even bother going to the trouble of buying the club? It seems like they have no intention of serious investment or any coherent strategic plan.

    Starting to think that Methven has a kink for sharing fake transfer rumours/other assorted bullshit with gormless Charlton fans.

    It's the only explanation at this point.
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,988
    edited August 2023
    RedRobin said:
    MattF said:
    Hilarious!!

    Is this a fact?
  • IanJRO
    IanJRO Posts: 693
    Heard we are trying to tempt Steve Morison away from Hornchurch to solve our manager and striker problem. 

    Wages likely stumbling block as apparently he will want paying.


  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Callumcafc said:
    StrikerFirmani said:
    The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us.  That ended well.   
    Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.
    How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?


    Worked out very well at Watford.
    He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,828
    MattF said:
    I do hope so.

    Back to the drawing board guys. Who's next ?  We've gone from Darren Fergusson, through to Chris Powell, Lee Bowyer, The Cowley brothers & Michael Appleton. Now it looks like Dave Challinor has snubbed us too.

    who's for the Erith & Belvedere manager ?  Start off low & aim high... right ?
  • CafcCrazy
    CafcCrazy Posts: 808
    MattF said:
    Will have to start making a list of whose turned us down. 

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  • CharltontillidieCOYR
    CharltontillidieCOYR Posts: 781
    Funny if he rejects us and stays at stockport and they lose another 3/4 games and he gets sacked😂👍🏻

    Tbf he is northern and maybe we wasnt enough of a pull to uproot him and his family to come south🤷🏻‍♂️
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited August 2023
    soapboxsam said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Callumcafc said:
    StrikerFirmani said:
    The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us.  That ended well.   
    Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.
    How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?


    Worked out very well at Watford.
    He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
    You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?

    The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.  

    Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    Uboat said:


    Many bets coming in from the greater Manchester area.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Callumcafc said:
    Ryan Whelan is not a reliable source. I doubt it's even been offered formally to anyone yet, let alone been turned down.
    He was the original source of him getting the job in the first place.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,208
    RedChaser said:
    PragueAddick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Are we really dismissing a manager on the basis of a tackle he made before half our current squad were born?
    I am. If anybody has a problem with that, they can fuck off too. are free to disagree.
    Been on the Staropramen mate 🍻😉
    I am never, ever on that. It is nowadays produced for export to non- EU countries😉
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,882
    RedChaser said:
    Fully qualified Physiotherapist has a first class Hons degree which augers well, two for the price of one
    Physiotherapist you say? Sorry, we’re after a fully qualified psychotherapist!
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,163
    Further to a second interview, talks are now advancing with Mickey the pipe from Sidcup. 
    Mickey is currently coaching Crockenhills U18 team but what has attracted the Charlton SMT is that he can also fix their bogs, for free…
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,897
    edited August 2023
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Ryan Whelan is not a reliable source. I doubt it's even been offered formally to anyone yet, let alone been turned down.
    He was the original source of him getting the job in the first place.
    He’s just a bloke with a website and a Twitter blue tick trying to buy a bit of credibility by piggybacking on other established journos. I’m yet to be convinced he has his own reliable sources.

    Look at any of his articles of any substance and it’s just a rehash of what Alan Nixon, Pete O’Rourke or Darren Witcoop have already reported.
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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,268
    Braziliance said:
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Asked my mate about challinor and this is what I got… Can’t say it sounds too exciting and the general consensus I have seen from Stockport fans is he is struggling this year. 
    This sounds scarily familiar..
    To be honest it sounds like the description of every Football League manager ever. It's all a variation of 'doesn't have a Plan B' which is basically supporter code for 'sometimes we lose and I think we could have done something else with all this hindsight I have so he's rubbish'. The subs thing is a pretty common complaint from fans as well. Though to be honest given we've only got about 8 fit professionals at any given time at Charlton a bloke who doesn't like to make any subs will feel right at home.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,591
    It could be that DC knows he was not successful but it’s leaked today so damage control with Stockport fans. 
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    CL_Phantom said:







    Wasn't he the Lincoln fan who talked about Gilbey last year?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    Cafc43v3r said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Callumcafc said:
    StrikerFirmani said:
    The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us.  That ended well.   
    Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.
    How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?


    Worked out very well at Watford.
    He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
    You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?

    The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.  

    Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.

    JJ wasn't a failure if you take a team from 22nd to 13 despite what the experts said on CL.
    If he was a failure we would have ended up in League 2.
    Not saying he was a success but he did well with and I quote many posters on CL.
    "The worse squad in living memory"
    By the Ipswich 4-0 there was chaos behind the scenes (Washington) as we hadn't reached the high target that had been set for Jackson from 22nd place.
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    There is going to a massive reaction to this that we are being rejected now by Stockport managers etc. 

    However if true, I do think that location and moving his family etc could have a massive say in what he would want to do. 
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,466
    Garrymanilow said:
    Braziliance said:
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Asked my mate about challinor and this is what I got… Can’t say it sounds too exciting and the general consensus I have seen from Stockport fans is he is struggling this year. 
    This sounds scarily familiar..
    To be honest it sounds like the description of every Football League manager ever. It's all a variation of 'doesn't have a Plan B' which is basically supporter code for 'sometimes we lose and I think we could have done something else with all this hindsight I have so he's rubbish'. The subs thing is a pretty common complaint from fans as well. Though to be honest given we've only got about 8 fit professionals at any given time at Charlton a bloke who doesn't like to make any subs will feel right at home.
    Yup I'd be quite happy with a manager that has a Plan A that they can actually successfully execute to get results more often than not.

    Holden didn't have any plans, Garner had a plan A but couldn't execute and don't think JJ had a plan beyond play 532 either so it's been a while.
  • MikeBaileysFanClub
    MikeBaileysFanClub Posts: 314
    With the exception of CP looks like we are rummaging around in Poundland's clearance bin.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I think we can finally rule out the notion that the Shamocracy had any kind of plan as to what to do next after they sacked Dean Holden
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