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Post-Match Thread: Stevenage vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 16th September 2023 @ 3pm

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  • edited September 2023
    Cafc43v3r said:
    We get over run in central midfield with 3.  That's why people don't play 442.

    Of you play 442 against a 433 your spare man is a center half and theirs is a center mid, if you tuck someone in to make a middle 3 you get a 2 v 1 over load on that wing.  It might work if you have John Stones at center back?
    Or you sit behind the ball and play more direct/counter attacking football. Which is the kind of 4-4-2 I was saying I think we’d suit at the moment. With a very good front 2 that would work with direct football, Taylor and Dobson in the middle both better at longer passing and have plenty of legs, quick and direct wingers. I think it would suit us while Fraser is out with the squad we’ve got 

    That’s not what Appleton/Scott wants though so that’s why I’d expect 4-3-3 or 3-5-2 for more control and probably better options long term for when Fraser and Camara return. 3-5-2 would be my preference but I’d expect Appleton might go with 4-3-3
  • Talal said:
    Nitpicking a bit but Thomas is right footed and competent with his left. Can play the role but wouldn't say he's a natural there myself. 
    A fair point so I’d change that to our most natural there
  • NabySarr said:
    Or you sit behind the ball and play more direct/counter attacking football. Which is the kind of 4-4-2 I was saying I think we’d suit at the moment. With a very good front 2 that would work with direct football, Taylor and Dobson in the middle both better at longer passing and have plenty of legs, quick and direct wingers. I think it would suit us while Fraser is out with the squad we’ve got 

    That’s not what Appleton/Scott wants though so that’s why I’d expect 4-3-3 or 3-5-2 for more control and probably better options long term for when Fraser and Camara return. 3-5-2 would be my preference but I’d expect Appleton might go with 4-3-3
    The biggest problem is what ever formation you play you have to either play players out of formation or leave out players that are better than the ones you pick.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    The biggest problem is what ever formation you play you have to either play players out of formation or leave out players that are better than the ones you pick.
    Yes very true, that’s what years of poor recruitment and squad building does for you 
  • Old Evans is one deluded prize  ****!

    Quote from him in todays paper. "It was a little bit galling to see every time there's a free kick and it's contested there's seven Charlton players running around the referee. I think they get the penalty from that because there's not a chance in the world that's a penalty"

    There maybe an element of truth in the second bit but there was only one team demanding free kicks for most of the game and it sure as heck wasn't us!
    On CTV both Curbs and Brownie were complaining our player don’t appeal enough, and I agree. 
  • edited September 2023
    You are going to get desperate appeals when the ref has missed a few clear penalties before. It comes from frustration and desperation and sadly it was justified yesterday. Evans admitted that we should have had a penalty in the first half but said it was evened out by them not getting one which I agree was a foul but it was clearly outside the area. What about the other penalty shouts we had Evans? As far as I am concrened, you are doing a good job at Stevenage but you can F off you biased see you next Tuesday.
  • CBT is a conundrum. Can Appleton coach him into being an efficient wingback is the question?

    You’re not going to turn him into a thundering tackler, but can you get him to simply be disruptive and break up play, focus on getting back, get in the passing lane, and simply make sure any wide play is always forced outside. 

    I agree with another comment on here, he was too high in this game. He needs to get the ball nearer halfway to make his pace really effective. 
  • edited September 2023
    We are definitely not currently in a relegation battle, as has been suggested. 

    Clearly it’s a possibility given the poor start however far to early to be characterising our current situation in such a manner.
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  • Stevenage are an efficient side at what they do but sod watching a steve evans side week in week out. They'd get mullered most weeks if they ever somehow got to the championship.
  • Croydon said:
    I see it's Thomas' turn for 'players who get better when they're not playing'. 
    Have the day off pal
  • Ignore what Evans says, he's playing the victim as it's a crucial part of what's made so many of his teams successful. Building a siege mentality that other clubs are getting all the decisions, that big clubs get the decisions etc

    All designed to keep his players motivated and a bit angry.
    That is how I've read it.

    I also genuinely think he's had a look at our managerial merry go round and has chucked us a couple of compliments on the chance we sack another manager and he's in the good books. Sneaky bloke Evans 
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  • Croydon said:
    I see it's Thomas' turn for 'players who get better when they're not playing'. 
    AMB too. 
  • edited September 2023
    I should imagine The Valley Cafe'll be all over that.
    Actually that was mean what I posted, edited. 
  • ValleyBen said:
    AMB too. 
    Except AMB wasn't on the pitch for 42 minutes 
  • edited September 2023
    Really think we needed Fraser on Saturday. Felt like we needed someone to try and keep the ball in their half in first half. Don’t think the 3 of Campbell x2 & CBT was the correct line up against the profile of team of Stevenage. Plenty of positives for me in the second half though.
  • ValleyBen said:
    AMB too. 
    And Fraser.
  • Rothko said:
    Evans is scum, never should have been allowed back into the sport after what he did at Boston
    What did he do at Boston ?
  • What did he do at Boston ?
    https://twohundredpercent.net/steve-evans-football-manager-convicted-criminal/
  • And Evans is mates with Rodwell???

    Is that the 'football professional' Rodwell now with us?
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