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London Overground - new line names revealed.
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If you don't think £6.3m is a drop in the bucket then it is your financial literacy that needs questioning I'm afraid.Lincsaddick said:
another one who considers £6.3 Million to be just a drop in the bucket .. financial and social illiteracycolthe3rd said:
Quite, TFL have a budget of £9bn, so this is about 0.07%. Some people need a bit of perspective but then I feel they will look for any reason to have a moan about the mayor even when they don't live in London. Bizarre.Jac_52 said:Plenty of illiterate people voted for Brexit despite the billions and billions of damage it has inflicted on the UK economy and was always predicted to inflict. Over £100bn and counting so far (30bn for London alone) which massively reduces government revenue, which could have paid for all your thousands of doctors and teachers.
6.3m as a one off cost to TfL is nothing worth moaning about.9 -
I like the names and the links back to history of the locations they run through. Think the Lionness one is bit OTT but that's it.
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hey Big Spender .. hahahahha .. be very afraidJac_52 said:
If you don't think £6.3m is a drop in the bucket then it is your financial literacy that needs questioning I'm afraid.Lincsaddick said:
another one who considers £6.3 Million to be just a drop in the bucket .. financial and social illiteracycolthe3rd said:
Quite, TFL have a budget of £9bn, so this is about 0.07%. Some people need a bit of perspective but then I feel they will look for any reason to have a moan about the mayor even when they don't live in London. Bizarre.Jac_52 said:Plenty of illiterate people voted for Brexit despite the billions and billions of damage it has inflicted on the UK economy and was always predicted to inflict. Over £100bn and counting so far (30bn for London alone) which massively reduces government revenue, which could have paid for all your thousands of doctors and teachers.
6.3m as a one off cost to TfL is nothing worth moaning about.0 -
Lincsaddick said:
hey Big Spender .. hahahahha .. be very afraidJac_52 said:
If you don't think £6.3m is a drop in the bucket then it is your financial literacy that needs questioning I'm afraid.Lincsaddick said:
another one who considers £6.3 Million to be just a drop in the bucket .. financial and social illiteracycolthe3rd said:
Quite, TFL have a budget of £9bn, so this is about 0.07%. Some people need a bit of perspective but then I feel they will look for any reason to have a moan about the mayor even when they don't live in London. Bizarre.Jac_52 said:Plenty of illiterate people voted for Brexit despite the billions and billions of damage it has inflicted on the UK economy and was always predicted to inflict. Over £100bn and counting so far (30bn for London alone) which massively reduces government revenue, which could have paid for all your thousands of doctors and teachers.
6.3m as a one off cost to TfL is nothing worth moaning about.
I am very afraid of your terminal case of stupidity.7 -
Well, the obvious answer to that is that it might be a bit confusing to people trying to navigate a map in which one named line is coloured in six different ways.MrOneLung said:
well at the moment there is one 'overground' line covering all these lines and it is one colour, so why not ?Chizz said:
You'd prefer there were one "overground" line, in six different colours?MrOneLung said:Dont know why the couldnt keep the generic Overground name, but just had the relevant sections in the colours they have just introduced
"I want to go on the Overground, which colour is that?"
"Well, part of the Overground line is in the top left of the map, in yellow. And another part is over there in blue. The rest of it is red. Apart from the maroon and green ones. And the grey one over there is also included".0 -
https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2023/march/annual-budget-for-2023-24-shows-tfl-set-to-deliver-operating-surplus
Drop in the ocean so you can stop crying about nothing now.
I can only guess by the wanton illiteracy you've displayed with regards to the UK public spending and general economy that you voted for Brexit, in which case your moaning about this £6.3m is doubly worthless.
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Surely you ask 'how do i get to..." Then being told which colours is simpler than overground to Highbury then change to a different overground line etc.Chizz said:
Well, the obvious answer to that is that it might be a bit confusing to people trying to navigate a map in which one named line is coloured in six different ways.MrOneLung said:
well at the moment there is one 'overground' line covering all these lines and it is one colour, so why not ?Chizz said:
You'd prefer there were one "overground" line, in six different colours?MrOneLung said:Dont know why the couldnt keep the generic Overground name, but just had the relevant sections in the colours they have just introduced
"I want to go on the Overground, which colour is that?"
"Well, part of the Overground line is in the top left of the map, in yellow. And another part is over there in blue. The rest of it is red. Apart from the maroon and green ones. And the grey one over there is also included".0 -
The issue around line confusion is a thing, simply saying their is problems on Overground at Highbury and Islington, doesn’t help passengers, which line? Where the new names you can say there are problems on the Windrush, and a good service on the Mildmay. It makes life easier for the long term
also the DLR is prime for this6 -
let me guess .. circus clown ?colthe3rd said:
Financial illiteracy? You might be shocked to know what my job is.Lincsaddick said:
another one who considers £6.3 Million to be just a drop in the bucket .. financial and social illiteracycolthe3rd said:
Quite, TFL have a budget of £9bn, so this is about 0.07%. Some people need a bit of perspective but then I feel they will look for any reason to have a moan about the mayor even when they don't live in London. Bizarre.Jac_52 said:Plenty of illiterate people voted for Brexit despite the billions and billions of damage it has inflicted on the UK economy and was always predicted to inflict. Over £100bn and counting so far (30bn for London alone) which massively reduces government revenue, which could have paid for all your thousands of doctors and teachers.
6.3m as a one off cost to TfL is nothing worth moaning about.
I'm struggling with the social illiteracy though? Care to expand on that?2 -
as typed way up the page, £6.3 Million pounds would pay the salaries of hundreds of nurses, doctors, teachers .. QEDJac_52 said:https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2023/march/annual-budget-for-2023-24-shows-tfl-set-to-deliver-operating-surplus
Drop in the ocean so you can stop crying about nothing now.
I can only guess by the wanton illiteracy you've displayed with regards to the UK public spending and general economy that you voted for Brexit, in which case your moaning about this £6.3m is doubly worthless.1 -
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Absolutely, you always get confused tourists asking if this train goes to Greenwich. It's why i always wear headphones! 😃Rothko said:The issue around line confusion is a thing, simply saying their is problems on Overground at Highbury and Islington, doesn’t help passengers, which line? Where the new names you can say there are problems on the Windrush, and a good service on the Mildmay. It makes life easier for the long term
also the DLR is prime for this0 -
TFL is responsible for paying NHS workers now is it?Lincsaddick said:
as typed way up the page, £6.3 Million pounds would pay the salaries of hundreds of nurses, doctors, teachers .. QEDJac_52 said:https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2023/march/annual-budget-for-2023-24-shows-tfl-set-to-deliver-operating-surplus
Drop in the ocean so you can stop crying about nothing now.
I can only guess by the wanton illiteracy you've displayed with regards to the UK public spending and general economy that you voted for Brexit, in which case your moaning about this £6.3m is doubly worthless.8 -
When I heard about the Liberty line, I thought it was some sort of tribute to the old school gangsters, as in "He took a liberty, so I shot him".5
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Lincsaddick said:
as typed way up the page, £6.3 Million pounds would pay the salaries of hundreds of nurses, doctors, teachers .. QEDJac_52 said:https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2023/march/annual-budget-for-2023-24-shows-tfl-set-to-deliver-operating-surplus
Drop in the ocean so you can stop crying about nothing now.
I can only guess by the wanton illiteracy you've displayed with regards to the UK public spending and general economy that you voted for Brexit, in which case your moaning about this £6.3m is doubly worthless.
The NHS already receives over £400m of funding per day for paying nurses and doctors what has this amount got to do with it? Any amount of money spent could be spent on hiring doctors and nurses. The £12m our investors apparently spent on buying us could have been used to fund some?
Also your 6.3m wouldn't get you very far unless you plan to get rid of your hundreds of new employees after a year?2 -
Money well spent0
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Over 100 comments arguing over the names of some train lines.
Classic Charlton life11 -
New names seem good and it's nice to learn some new stuff about the ones I didn't know much about before. Hardly seems like something to get upset over with so much going on in the world.7
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These weirdos care too much…blackpool72 said:Over 100 comments arguing over the names of some train lines.
Classic Charlton life0 -
Yes, as it sorts out a messy system with multiple routes and destination under a single brand. If Overground had stayed with just the old North London Line, then you wouldn’t need this, but it’s become this huge interconnected system that needs lines that are easier to understand. It’s also a one off costbobmunro said:seth plum said:Well done Sadiq Khan, best Mayor since Livingstone. If the people don’t like you they have a chance to vote you out in May (if they can abide by the restrictive Tory voter ID rules).
So you think £6.3m is value for money?
Same can be said for the DLR, where it’s a mess now at Canning Town, Canary Wharf and Limehouse.Johnson bottled changing them in 2010, and Khan made a manifesto commitment to look at sorting out the naming.4 -
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I'm outraged that you aren't bothered.CharltonMadrid said:New names seem good and it's nice to learn some new stuff about the ones I didn't know much about before. Hardly seems like something to get upset over with so much going on in the world.0 -
as I pointed out up the page, despite @Rothko's assertion that the 'government does not subsidise tfl', the govt has actually subsidised tfl to the tune of several BILLION pounds .. now some might think this is another mere drop in the bucket .. all a question of 'priorities' when allocating public funds.colthe3rd said:
TFL is responsible for paying NHS workers now is it?Lincsaddick said:
as typed way up the page, £6.3 Million pounds would pay the salaries of hundreds of nurses, doctors, teachers .. QEDJac_52 said:https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2023/march/annual-budget-for-2023-24-shows-tfl-set-to-deliver-operating-surplus
Drop in the ocean so you can stop crying about nothing now.
I can only guess by the wanton illiteracy you've displayed with regards to the UK public spending and general economy that you voted for Brexit, in which case your moaning about this £6.3m is doubly worthless.
as to tfl paying NHS workers, surely some of the money given to tfl to keep this inefficient quango afloat should/could/would have been better allocated to the NHS to recruit, train and pay it's staff, or possibly to recruit and pay more teachers, refuse collectors or whatever, and not to allow some bird brains at tfl or the London mayor's office, or a daft marketing/rebranding firm or wherever, to think up nonsense schemes like giving stretches of railway lines cutesy new names
BUT ALAS, would/could/should ??? .. all far too late, it's only the mug tax payers money, who cares how much is tossed into the wind and wasted instead of being wisely spent ? .. b t w, the government and civil service are as much to blame for this and other scandalous wastes of tax payers money as the mayor or his staff who probably couldn't get employed anywhere else
Also, I might no longer live in London, but I have lots of family who still do and who pay their taxes and fares .. I POST ONCE MORE .. Ministers and TfL agree £250 million government funding to upgrade London’s transport system - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
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easy sell for the media.
i generally thin khan is a waste of space but am i triggered over the naming of a tube line not really.
all politicians are spineless cnuts in my opinion that sqaunder money on a daily basis
is london a shit hole yes
is there an out of control knife problem and general violence yes
is it all khans fault probably not5 -
I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.12
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Whataboutery at its finestChizz said:I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.5 -
Not really. If people are only upset about the cost, then I'm sure they'll be much, much more upset about other egregious sums wasted by TfL.blackpool72 said:
Whataboutery at its finestChizz said:I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.
Spending £6.3m on something that works efficiently is, to me, far less worthy of opprobrium than spending seven times as much on something that doesn't exist.12 -
blackpool72 said:
Whataboutery at its finestChizz said:I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.
Did you reply to the wrong post?
Whataboutary at its finest is saying this money could be spent on the NHS. This is way down the list of things for why the NHS is underfunded and wouldn't even fund it for an hour.2 -
OK.Chizz said:
Not really. If people are only upset about the cost, then I'm sure they'll be much, much more upset about other egregious sums wasted by TfL.blackpool72 said:
Whataboutery at its finestChizz said:I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.
Spending £6.3m on something that works efficiently is, to me, far less worthy of opprobrium than spending seven times as much on something that doesn't exist.
I am annoyed at the cost of the Bridge that never got built.
I'm also annoyed at the amount of money wasted on PPE during the pandemic.
I'm also annoyed at the amount of money it costs to house illegal immigrants.
I'm also annoyed with Blair taking us into an illegal war.
I'm also annoyed at the way Thatcher handled the miner's strike.
But none of this has fuck all to do with this thread.14 -
The cost to TfL are absolutely pertinent to this thread.blackpool72 said:
OK.Chizz said:
Not really. If people are only upset about the cost, then I'm sure they'll be much, much more upset about other egregious sums wasted by TfL.blackpool72 said:
Whataboutery at its finestChizz said:I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.
Spending £6.3m on something that works efficiently is, to me, far less worthy of opprobrium than spending seven times as much on something that doesn't exist.
I am annoyed at the cost of the Bridge that never got built.
I'm also annoyed at the amount of money wasted on PPE during the pandemic.
I'm also annoyed at the amount of money it costs to house illegal immigrants.
I'm also annoyed with Blair taking us into an illegal war.
I'm also annoyed at the way Thatcher handled the miner's strike.
But none of this has fuck all to do with this thread.
Yes, you've brought up some things that are completely irrelevant. But, don't you agree that the costs paid by TfL for transport projects in London are relevant? I imagine most do.0 -
Well done Sadiq Khan, you have saved London, again.4
