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London Overground - new line names revealed.
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Lucky it’s not extending to Charlton as we could have had the Relegation Line.15
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Lioness and Liberty are shit names.
Not too bothered about the rest of the names but I do feel it could have been a bit less divisive, it's obviously going to wind people up when it doesn't need to.
Would have liked names like Brunel etc.6 -
That cost £115kTodds_right_hook said:
Regardless of budget, is £6m value to come up with line names.colthe3rd said:
Quite, TFL have a budget of £9bn, so this is about 0.07%. Some people need a bit of perspective but then I feel they will look for any reason to have a moan about the mayor even when they don't live in London. Bizarre.Jac_52 said:Plenty of illiterate people voted for Brexit despite the billions and billions of damage it has inflicted on the UK economy and was always predicted to inflict. Over £100bn and counting so far (30bn for London alone) which massively reduces government revenue, which could have paid for all your thousands of doctors and teachers.
6.3m as a one off cost to TfL is nothing worth moaning about.How did it cost £6m. Hire a company, pay them £2k for a couple of days work, job done0 -
se9addick said:palarsehater said:easy sell for the media.
i generally thin khan is a waste of space but am i triggered over the naming of a tube line not really.
all politicians are spineless cnuts in my opinion that sqaunder money on a daily basis
is london a shit hole yes
is there an out of control knife problem and general violence yes
is it all khans fault probably notBoth of these statements are absolute bollocks.London is the greatest city in the world and remarkably safe given its size.
Knife crime is very much out of control otherwise you'd expect children not to be stabbed and often killed on a weekly basis if it were under control.
Can't blame the mayor for that as it's a multitude of problems probably stemming from lack of (decent) male role models and gang culture in inner and increasingly so outer london.
Great city on the whole though.
Anyway don't want to derail (boom boom!) such a wonderfully balanced and non partisan debate lolz.4 -
Underground lines on the map are single lines. Overground lines are double lines.cafc999 said:
Same mapValleyGary said:
That’s undergroundcafc999 said:
But isn't the Central Line red?ValleyGary said:They should have just named it the colours.
“You need to take the Windrush Line”
”What one’s that…?”
”The red one”
Easier innit.0 -
Way more complaints about £6.3m being wasted than £43m. I wonder why?cafc999 said:
So we had outrage thenFriend Or Defoe said:
Only 3 pagescafc999 said:
That was another waste of money which had equal outrage I believe?Chizz said:I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/77742/thames-garden-bridge1 -
Liz Line and DLR are also double lines, and on the same map.Chizz said:
Underground lines on the map are single lines. Overground lines are double lines.cafc999 said:
Same mapValleyGary said:
That’s undergroundcafc999 said:
But isn't the Central Line red?ValleyGary said:They should have just named it the colours.
“You need to take the Windrush Line”
”What one’s that…?”
”The red one”
Easier innit.
The reality is, is that did we really need to change the name of these 'lines' when we have been using them for approx 15 years with general ease?1 -
Why can't they name the lines after white blokes?
Yeah, where's the Terry and June line?
I don't think the trans community have been fairly represented here at all
What a waste of money how many homeless ex soldiers that I've never mentioned or cared about before could have been houses with that
Actually it's a tiny amount of money in comparison, they should have spent a lot more on it
...something about suffragettes being fake or something
It's all part of the woke agenda they should have called one of them the woke line woke woke woke
(Insert snide comment about specific geographical design of existing lines, surface nature of some underground stations)
You don't even live here why do you care
Right - round the back of Makro's car park in 2 hours - you can team up if you like and you can bring yer dinner
That about cover it?25 -
The number of lines is going to make the TFL ‘rainbow’ board of status even more busy than it is today!
My serious point being it’s a lot of new names to adopt into your general recognition/awareness.
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Welcome back chapLeroy Ambrose said:Why can't they name the lines after white blokes?
Yeah, where's the Terry and June line?
I don't think the trans community have been fairly represented here at all
What a waste of money how many homeless ex soldiers that I've never mentioned or cared about before could have been houses with that
Actually it's a tiny amount of money in comparison, they should have spent a lot more on it
...something about suffragettes being fake or something
It's all part of the woke agenda they should have called one of them the woke line woke woke woke
(Insert snide comment about specific geographical design of existing lines, surface nature of some underground stations)
You don't even live here why do you care
Right - round the back of Makro's car park in 2 hours - you can team up if you like and you can bring yer dinner
That about cover it?3 -
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Always thought the rebranding was necessary considering the current ‘orange’ set up has about 100 stations all over the place. Whether it was a critical issue worth the spend is up for debate.No problem with it representing different pieces of history, but would have preferred names that are a little more linked to location/landmarks without tenuous links that feel a little shoehorned in.Got a lot of time for the Lionesses and their achievement, but if you’re going for a sports/Wembley connection then 1966 or Live Aid are far more significant moments IMO.Does feel as though the options have been selected with political thinking over logic.I’ve actually just moved to the borough of Havering. Didn’t even know it had its own line (of a whopping 3 stops!)8
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Just about - although I don’t know any blokes called June,Leroy Ambrose said:Why can't they name the lines after white blokes?
Yeah, where's the Terry and June line?
I don't think the trans community have been fairly represented here at all
What a waste of money how many homeless ex soldiers that I've never mentioned or cared about before could have been houses with that
Actually it's a tiny amount of money in comparison, they should have spent a lot more on it
...something about suffragettes being fake or something
It's all part of the woke agenda they should have called one of them the woke line woke woke woke
(Insert snide comment about specific geographical design of existing lines, surface nature of some underground stations)
You don't even live here why do you care
Right - round the back of Makro's car park in 2 hours - you can team up if you like and you can bring yer dinner
That about cover it?2 -
Well balanced postcafctom said:Always thought the rebranding was necessary considering the current ‘orange’ set up has about 100 stations all over the place. Whether it was a critical issue worth the spend is up for debate.No problem with it representing different pieces of history, but would have preferred names that are a little more linked to location/landmarks without tenuous links that feel a little shoehorned in.Got a lot of time for the Lionesses and their achievement, but if you’re going for a sports/Wembley connection then 1966 or Live Aid are far more significant moments IMO.Does feel as though the options have been selected with political thinking over logic.I’ve actually just moved to the borough of Havering. Didn’t even know it had its own line (of a whopping 3 stops!)
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I will personally find the rebranding useful. When I'm travelling to somewhere unfamiliar in the city, I often discount the overground lines as it all seems a bit complex. Anything that makes it a bit clearer will definitely help me and will surely prove positive to many others.
The names are alright. They wouldn't all be my choice and some seem better than others but there's absolutely nothing for any normal person to take offence at in any of them.
As for the costs, I don't think it's a lot in the wider scheme of things. Sooner or later the old maps would get updated anyway so it won't all be new costs. And if it helps to make the stations and trains look a bit more kempt and cared for that will be a good thing. Six million is enough to look like a lot of money, especially to those who would would like to use if for a spot of mayor bashing, but in the bigger scheme of public finances in general and in terms of the London Overground operation it really is small fry. Everyday 625,000 journeys are made on the Overground lines. The rebranding costs amount to just 10p per journey for a period of 2½ months.
My only hope is that the newly named lines now get included on Metrodle. That will make it more challenging.5 -
Good to see you, LeroyLeroy Ambrose said:Why can't they name the lines after white blokes?
Yeah, where's the Terry and June line?
I don't think the trans community have been fairly represented here at all
What a waste of money how many homeless ex soldiers that I've never mentioned or cared about before could have been houses with that
Actually it's a tiny amount of money in comparison, they should have spent a lot more on it
...something about suffragettes being fake or something
It's all part of the woke agenda they should have called one of them the woke line woke woke woke
(Insert snide comment about specific geographical design of existing lines, surface nature of some underground stations)
You don't even live here why do you care
Right - round the back of Makro's car park in 2 hours - you can team up if you like and you can bring yer dinner
That about cover it?
Miss your influence here4 -
Cheers. Fell out of love with football in the last few years, and Charlton have tried my patience far too much in the last decade 😂
Find most of my time on here was spent arguing, so stopped bothering!
Hope (most of) you are well... 😏8 -
Great thread, classic CL.
Fwiw I didn't realise there was a London Overground until about 15 years ago, when I discovered you could go to Alexander Palace on the overground, rather only Wood Green on the underground.
It's definitely a good idea to have the underground, overground and DLR all on the same map.
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Start a garden bridge thread and I (and this is just a guess) will say there will be way more complaints about the garden bridge (or lack of) than any other projectFriend Or Defoe said:
Way more complaints about £6.3m being wasted than £43m. I wonder why?cafc999 said:
So we had outrage thenFriend Or Defoe said:
Only 3 pagescafc999 said:
That was another waste of money which had equal outrage I believe?Chizz said:I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/77742/thames-garden-bridge2 -
Please don't start a new one. https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/77742/thames-garden-bridge/p1MrOneLung said:
Start a garden bridge thread and I (and this is just a guess) will say there will be way more complaints about the garden bridge (or lack of) than any other projectFriend Or Defoe said:
Way more complaints about £6.3m being wasted than £43m. I wonder why?cafc999 said:
So we had outrage thenFriend Or Defoe said:
Only 3 pagescafc999 said:
That was another waste of money which had equal outrage I believe?Chizz said:I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge.
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/77742/thames-garden-bridge1 -
Chizz said:
Underground lines on the map are single lines. Overground lines are double lines.cafc999 said:
Same mapValleyGary said:
That’s undergroundcafc999 said:
But isn't the Central Line red?ValleyGary said:They should have just named it the colours.
“You need to take the Windrush Line”
”What one’s that…?”
”The red one”
Easier innit.
Everday's a school day. Never knew that.1 -
Needed to be done and names could be worse. The money is a lot but probably about what it costs and hardly much compared to other bits and pieces.
Nothing compared to the money wasted on the garden bridge and chairlift no one uses1 -
The Overground service started in 2007.Covered End said:Great thread, classic CL.
Fwiw I didn't realise there was a London Overground until about 15 years ago, when I discovered you could go to Alexander Palace on the overground, rather only Wood Green on the underground.
It's definitely a good idea to have the underground, overground and DLR all on the same map.
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They've been on the same map for 15 years or so.Covered End said:Great thread, classic CL.
Fwiw I didn't realise there was a London Overground until about 15 years ago, when I discovered you could go to Alexander Palace on the overground, rather only Wood Green on the underground.
It's definitely a good idea to have the underground, overground and DLR all on the same map.
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🤦🏻♂️Friend Or Defoe said:£6.3m isn't a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, far more is spent repairing traffic lights.1 -
I'm not sure by that reaction if you got the reference or not!buckshee said:
🤦🏻♂️Friend Or Defoe said:£6.3m isn't a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, far more is spent repairing traffic lights.0 -
Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.12 -
That was just the rebranding and bringing together of several already existing lines though. Each of which already had a name. Arguably the original decision to lump them all together under one name was the stupid one, so in that context giving them back individual names isnt that odd. Of course, what you think of the names is a personal opinion!Chizz said:
The Overground service started in 2007.Covered End said:Great thread, classic CL.
Fwiw I didn't realise there was a London Overground until about 15 years ago, when I discovered you could go to Alexander Palace on the overground, rather only Wood Green on the underground.
It's definitely a good idea to have the underground, overground and DLR all on the same map.
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