London Overground - new line names revealed.

Covered End said:

Great thread, classic CL.

Fwiw I didn't realise there was a London Overground until about 15 years ago, when I discovered you could go to Alexander Palace on the overground, rather only Wood Green on the underground.

It's definitely a good idea to have the underground, overground and DLR all on the same map.

 

SporadicAddick said:

Stig said:

SporadicAddick said:

Stig said:

LenGlover said:

What's wrong with the traditional names?

Nothing. What's wrong with new names?

They are based almost wholly on identity politics.

some think that’s good.

Others think that is divisive.

so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.

and I think that somewhat proves the point.

In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't? 

Correct.

SporadicAddick said:

Stig said:

SporadicAddick said:

Stig said:

LenGlover said:

What's wrong with the traditional names?

Nothing. What's wrong with new names?

They are based almost wholly on identity politics.

some think that’s good.

Others think that is divisive.

so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.

and I think that somewhat proves the point.

In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't? 

Correct.

Gribbo said:

Great game of Politics Only Poster (POP) Bingo. Think I've got a full house!

SporadicAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

SporadicAddick said:

Stig said:

SporadicAddick said:

Stig said:

LenGlover said:

What's wrong with the traditional names?

Nothing. What's wrong with new names?

They are based almost wholly on identity politics.

some think that’s good.

Others think that is divisive.

so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.

and I think that somewhat proves the point.

In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't? 

Correct.

You obviously know the origins behind the names that Stig reminds us of ? If you do then your previous assertion is completely redundant.

Only if you don’t understand the concept of identity politics…

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.

For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.

Good point that offy.

So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea? 

Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...         

Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.

What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"

But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...    

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.

For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.

Good point that offy.

So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea? 

Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...         

Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.

What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"

But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...    

Christ, it must be so fucking tiresome living in your world where you keep having to fight the good fight and put people straight on things on a daily basis.

Seriously mate, you need to have a word with yourself. Tory this, Khan that, handwringing, gerrymandering, ..... you sound like you're on a crusade and are one of the main culprits for making everything a political statement on here. It's boring. Its draining. Its tedious.

Clever post Dave, if I defend myself you are going to say "There you go again".

Lincs politicised this thread, not me. 
               

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

ValleyGary said:

Classic stuff, it really is.

If only our squad had so many assertive left right wingers as this forum we'd fly up the leagues like a Tory politician up a brass or a Labour politician up a virtue signal flagpole.

Covered End said:

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Algarveaddick said:

Off_it said:

Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.

For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.

Good point that offy.

So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea? 

Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...         

Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.

What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"

But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...    

Christ, it must be so fucking tiresome living in your world where you keep having to fight the good fight and put people straight on things on a daily basis.

Seriously mate, you need to have a word with yourself. Tory this, Khan that, handwringing, gerrymandering, ..... you sound like you're on a crusade and are one of the main culprits for making everything a political statement on here. It's boring. Its draining. Its tedious.

Clever post Dave, if I defend myself you are going to say "There you go again".

Lincs politicised this thread, not me. 
               

I'm not trying to be clever. And I dont care who started it. I have no political dog in the fight and therefore am just saying it as I see it. 

I've "picked" on you on this occasion as we have met and therefore hopefully I wont be accused of internet bullying again. But you're not alone. I think the majority on here find the constant political point scoring on here tedious, although I do appreciate that this thread is naturally more political than others.

Genuinely no malice intended,  Perry. All the best, comrade! ;-)

Cheers Dave, appreciate it. Your post did prompt me to have a look at myself. I looked back as far as November at my posts, not once have I been the one who turned a normal thread political or started a thread with the potential to be political, just for the record like... 

Power to the people.   

Ignoring the political posts on photos only no discussion of course