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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,240
    The man is a grade A fucking idiot. He was at best a below average heavyweight, he is playing up for cameras and all he is doing is proving to everyone how much of a fucking idiot he is. Bully. Went for the smallest target and showed himself up. The focus for this fight should be the two main men, undefeated heavyweight champions not this clown. 

    If I was Tyson Fury I would not want this moron anywhere near my camp, team, final preparation. 
  • ValleyOfTears
    ValleyOfTears Posts: 1,067
    CAFCsayer said:

    If this is true it's gold and Ryan is a genius
    I heard that almost all rock n roll stars pretend to be drunk and high all the time (maybe in the days of Hendrix but not now) but are in fact teetotaller health freaks. It's all a charade. I was fooled! Those snarling photos of the Gallaghers with can of Tramp strength beer in one hand (with evian inside it!) And a joint (an unlit roll up!) In the other hand! It's all illusion! 

     It's not quite the same as Garcia here but giving the illusion of being intoxicated is the same. I know I can't play lead guitar unless I'm fully compis mentis and, it transpires, when doing a multi million pound 60 date world tour with huge advertising deals propping you up, neither can anyone else! 
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    CAFCsayer said:

    If this is true it's gold and Ryan is a genius
    While I'm no expert, I'd be very surprised if a sportsbook took a $2m bet.
  • Blackheathen
    Blackheathen Posts: 6,655
    CAFCsayer said:

    If this is true it's gold and Ryan is a genius
    I heard that almost all rock n roll stars pretend to be drunk and high all the time (maybe in the days of Hendrix but not now) but are in fact teetotaller health freaks. It's all a charade. I was fooled! Those snarling photos of the Gallaghers with can of Tramp strength beer in one hand (with evian inside it!) And a joint (an unlit roll up!) In the other hand! It's all illusion! 

     It's not quite the same as Garcia here but giving the illusion of being intoxicated is the same. I know I can't play lead guitar unless I'm fully compis mentis and, it transpires, when doing a multi million pound 60 date world tour with huge advertising deals propping you up, neither can anyone else! 
    Not just rock n roll stars.  I remember Dean Martin used to saunter onstage hosting tv shows with slurry speech, cigarette in hand, not having even met those stars he was hosting. Probably just an image thing.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    PopIcon said:
    CAFCsayer said:

    If this is true it's gold and Ryan is a genius
    While I'm no expert, I'd be very surprised if a sportsbook took a $2m bet.
    Ones in Vegas probably will.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,221
    Bookies here would restrict him to 50p.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    PopIcon said:
    CAFCsayer said:

    If this is true it's gold and Ryan is a genius
    While I'm no expert, I'd be very surprised if a sportsbook took a $2m bet.
    Ones in Vegas probably will.
    Course they would. Mattress Mannis famous for putting big bets on Houston sport - mainly baseball 
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,866
    have a look at the picture of the Gallaghers with Maradona and try to tell me they’re faking it. 
  • CAFCsayer said:

    If this is true it's gold and Ryan is a genius
    I heard that almost all rock n roll stars pretend to be drunk and high all the time (maybe in the days of Hendrix but not now) but are in fact teetotaller health freaks. It's all a charade. I was fooled! Those snarling photos of the Gallaghers with can of Tramp strength beer in one hand (with evian inside it!) And a joint (an unlit roll up!) In the other hand! It's all illusion! 

     It's not quite the same as Garcia here but giving the illusion of being intoxicated is the same. I know I can't play lead guitar unless I'm fully compis mentis and, it transpires, when doing a multi million pound 60 date world tour with huge advertising deals propping you up, neither can anyone else! 
    Yeh, I remember Ollie Reed pretending to be drunk on the Aspel show.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    buckshee said:
    have a look at the picture of the Gallaghers with Maradona and try to tell me they’re faking it. 
    There are definitely exceptions ! 
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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914

  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    6 months ago I didn't think there was a boxer on the planet who could beat Fury, but as the fight draws closer I have a sneaky feeling Usyk will win.

    Hope he knocks John Fury spark out after the fight too for good measure
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    I’m going for Usyk to win 116-112 ish but Fury to get a bs decision.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    6 months ago I didn't think there was a boxer on the planet who could beat Fury, but as the fight draws closer I have a sneaky feeling Usyk will win.

    Hope he knocks John Fury spark out after the fight too for good measure
    Steve Bunce reckons that lad from Venus, who reputedly has a vicious upper cut, would beat him 🙄 Why is the world not enough when talking about boxers? I don't think it's necessary to acknowledge that somewhere in our solar system, or the universe, there may be a better boxer than one on this planet. Rant over.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Unlike many I want our man to win even if his father leaves a lot to be desired.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,240
    I think it will be either a Fury masterclass or him falling over his feet and Usyk really getting close to him and working away to his body. No inbetween, can't see it ebbing and flowing. If Fury can't control the distance it will be a long night for him, if he can he will win but it won't be a classic 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Plenty of questions were asked of Fury after the Ngannou farce where he clearly thought he could just turn up and win easily, which wasn't so. But he looks switched on for this and much fitter than he's done for a very long time. He has to impose his size and reach on Usyk and if he does that i think he wins on points.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    It will be controversial. 

    No idea of what will happen,  but I guarantee it will be controversial 
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    It will be controversial. 

    No idea of what will happen,  but I guarantee it will be controversial 
    Was thinking the same, which way are the bent judges going to lean on this one I wonder. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Unless it's really one sided, I can potentially see a draw
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    CAFCsayer said:
    Unless it's really one sided, I can potentially see a draw
    Was thinking the same. 
    As they have signed a two fight contract a draw would set up the second fight perfectly. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    edited May 2024
    LenGlover said:
    Unlike many I want our man to win even if his father leaves a lot to be desired.

    I'm the opposite.

    Fury is a 100% arse and apart from the second Wilder fight he is boring as f*ck to watch. He is very lucky to have been around when the heavyweight division was a shadow of its former self (the same can be said to a lesser degree with Vlad).

    Usyk is an absolute master boxer and in my lifetime the only heavyweight with better pure boxing skills (variety, angles, movement, hand speed) was Ali pre-ban. Ali had a lot more than that of course. Holyfield was very good but the fact he was always juiced up has to be accounted for. 

    Usyk is also a fighter with immense courage, and comes across as a very decent man.

    I want Usyk to secure his legacy as one of the very best ever - school Fury - and then retire. Fury and Joshua can then finally get it on and even in a non-title fight it would gross huge amounts.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,698
    Usyk win for me. Think he will suss Fury out and get in on the inside with ease in the end. Points win though.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Usyk win for me. Think he will suss Fury out and get in on the inside with ease in the end. Points win though.
    Maybe just me, but I don't think him getting in on the inside will serve him very well. It'll give Fury a chance to smother him, lean all over him and wear him down through pure weight and strength advantage. Usyk needs to use his footwork and get in and get out
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,736
    One thing you can't accuse Fury of is not taking this very seriously. He looks in the best shape I have ever seen him in. 

    For me it's Fury all the way if he can keep Usyk at length. That's not a sure thing though. On pure boxing skills Usyk wins. 

    Controversial split decision on points imo. No idea who gets it though.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    I'm away at the minute, forgot to bring my firestick. If you anyone happens to know of any decent streams for the Fury Usyk fight later, I would appreciate it
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,698
    CAFCsayer said:
    Usyk win for me. Think he will suss Fury out and get in on the inside with ease in the end. Points win though.
    Maybe just me, but I don't think him getting in on the inside will serve him very well. It'll give Fury a chance to smother him, lean all over him and wear him down through pure weight and strength advantage. Usyk needs to use his footwork and get in and get out
    That was my thinking...didnt get it across well obviously! 
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    I hope Usyk wins but don't think it will happen. He'd need to knock Fury out for a start as you can almost guarantee some questionable point scoring from the judges to engineer a "result" if it goes the distance.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    I hope Usyk wins but don't think it will happen. He'd need to knock Fury out for a start as you can almost guarantee some questionable point scoring from the judges to engineer a "result" if it goes the distance.
    A rematch is already in the pipeline so that might remove any doubts over dodgy scorecards as they'll be fighting again regardless of what happens.

    "Saudi boxing chief His Excellency Turki Alalshikh confirmed that a rematch is likely to go ahead on 12th October 2024"
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,069
    Fancy Usyk to win on points, but Fury looks in great shape