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seth plum said:

West2003 said:

seth plum said:

Now people can’t calculate the change from £1 for an 80p purchase without a machine.

Total rubbish.

My experience differs.

seth plum said:

No, I don't think that.
Everything at the Valley is cashless, received and understood.

seth plum said:t

TelMc32 said:

seth plum said:

West2003 said:

seth plum said:

Now people can’t calculate the change from £1 for an 80p purchase without a machine.

Total rubbish.

My experience differs.

If you’re as condescending in real life as you are on here, I’d give you a wrong answer just to wind you up! 😖

If you believe mentioning the imperial system, and my having knowledge of it is condescending then crack on.
I will try to refrain from making personal remarks about you as you do so.
Go for it.

West2003 said:

seth plum said:

Now people can’t calculate the change from £1 for an 80p purchase without a machine.

Total rubbish.

seth plum said:

Maybe the two pint price is to help people who struggle with sums.

I automatically know because of my age and education that if you hand over £1 for something costing 80p the change is 20p.
Indeed I also know in old money that if you hand over £1 for something costing 7s11d you get 12s1d change.
Most of my generation can do that kind of thing in their head. Now people can’t calculate the change from £1 for an 80p purchase without a machine.

LarrysMobileBar said:

We will be in The Fans Bar again tomorrow with our cocktails.

£6 each or 2 for £8.50

or if we win after the match - 2 for £6! 

Chippycafc said:

se9addick said:

I still can’t get over a pint of Peroni in a plastic cup costing £7.40 at a third division football stadium. Absolute madness. 

Especially as two stops down the line is the old harry at WA where you can get a decent pint of real ale for £2.74, or go one more to Plumstead and at the Radical Club get a pint for around £3.

Algarveaddick said:

Covered End said:

Algarveaddick said:

valleynick66 said:

seth plum said:

The staff should be paid a good rate.
The staff should be properly paid because the prices people pay are very high.
I have heard capitalists say that a market finds its own level, if that is true then something has to happen. Exploiting the workforce in order to squeeze a marginal profit whilst alienating customers seems to be a poor version of capitalism…unless you have a monopoly or a captive market.

I assume they are paid minimum wage or very marginally only a little better. 

I doubt any government will materially change that rate. 

In this case I think really the issue is training / familiarity and that can only be down to the third party outsourced provider. 

Supply and demand will ultimately apply and mean custom is limited but practically I think it’s just another example of how poor a choice food and drink is inside football grounds and indeed any comparable venue. I make you right in your observation that chips from the local chip shop are better value. 

My point is better pay gives you a better chance of retaining staff, at risk of slightly contradicting myself, experienced staff are going to be better at their job and more able to pass on their experience of how to do things more efficiently to newbies. Most jobs involve finding more effective ways to do the job that the manual doesn't tell you, and that comes with experience. 

Anyone who falls for the Peroni baloney deserves to pay £7.40 a pint... 

 

They are part time staff employed by Gather and Gather, not ours.
We don't/barely train them, don't retain them and they won't be passing on their experience as it's generally different people each match behind the bars.
Presumably when they have more experience of bar work they will be paid more by G&G and won't be at The Valley.

I know they are employed by G&G mate. 

If the scenario is as you say, then we are wasting out time even discussing it. 

Solidgone said:

Algarveaddick said:

West2003 said:

seth plum said:

Now people can’t calculate the change from £1 for an 80p purchase without a machine.

Total rubbish.

It may not be widespread, but it happens. Hand on heart, I have had two experiences since we got to the UK on Aug 1st where staff given cash have been bamboozled by what should be a simple mental calculation.  

I think this is slightly unfair. Nowadays when nearly everything is done by computers and that service staff rarely get the chance to use their brains. Most restaurants and pubs have tills that provide the names of the food and drink and only show how much it costs once it’s been entered, and then it’s totalled for them. This is probably down to reducing the error rate from calculating the costs using their brain and staff from making some extra dosh on the side.

I kind of remember many moons ago I had been travelling and working abroad doing various jobs that didn’t require me to use my brain when it came to simple arithmetic (other than foreign exchange). I returned to the UK and worked in a pub where you had to add up the price of the drinks as you went along (and playing darts). I then started work in an office whereby I had to use a calculator (only recently introduced into the office which shows how long ago I am talking about). I continued to work in the pub for a little while longer but then found it increasingly difficult to mentally add up and then became more and more reliant on a calculator. I quit the pub. 

I also find the same with the use of a pen as nowadays I’m always using typing into my laptop, IPad or IPhone. My handwriting now looks as though I’ve written out a prescription! And lets not get on to remembering telephone numbers like we use to do.How many people here know their family and friends phone number? 🥸