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Charlie Methven and Gavin Carter at Bromley Addicks

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    This coming Thursday
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Well, unless win v Rovers on Tuesday I can see Thursday night at Bromley Addicks with Charlie Methven and Gavin Carter being interesting.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,736
    Henry Irving said:
    Well, unless win v Rovers on Tuesday I can see Thursday night at Bromley Addicks with Charlie Methven and Gavin Carter being interesting.
    Charlie might have to wear brown trousers instead of his usual red or yellow ones. 
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited September 2024
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    There was the infamous one that Richard Murray spoke at where he said that "caretaker" boss Phil Parkinson was going to be sacked imminently.......and then  promptly made him permanent manager. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    Henry Irving said:
    Well, unless win v Rovers on Tuesday I can see Thursday night at Bromley Addicks with Charlie Methven and Gavin Carter being interesting.

    It may be if a follow up question can be given to Methven.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.


    I went to a meeting once when somebody asked a question and one of the organisers stopped the question being answered as being inappropriate to the meeting.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    I have been to plenty of Bromley meetings and been unimpressed with a few of the guests in the past few years.  Still found the evening enlightening and worthwhile so not a criticism of Bromley Addicks, I hope to be along on the 3rd.

  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    I have a question for Charlie……

    Is The Valley, including the car park/fan zone a non smoking stadium?
    If so, how come on the couple of occasions I’ve been in the fan zone he is smoking?

    Cigarettegate 

    😜
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,355
    Am looking forward to going to this. A lot of questions to be asked about the future of this club. 
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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Doubt I’ll be able to make this, unfortunately.

    Would love to know what the realistic plans for The Valley is going forward. Would love to know why no one in any kind of position identified the glaring lack of creativity and whether this is an urgent priority to be addressed.

    Can see Methven really using as much PR skills as possible though without really giving a clear answer to some questions. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,889
    Braziliance said:
    Am looking forward to going to this. A lot of questions to be asked about the future of this club. 
    Questions are fine. Answers however….🙂
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Think more searching questions should be levelled at Jones at this point tbh. It's not like he's not had the backing
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144
    Gribbo said:
    Think more searching questions should be levelled at Jones at this point tbh. It's not like he's not had the backing
    I agree. But someone could, indirectly, by asking Charlie about our transfer and wages budget for this season compared with Wrexham's. (Forget Birmingham, it's a grotesque aberration). Charlie may try to deflect by saying that actual fees  and wages can never be known, but in truth he has a spreadsheet which gives him a very good idea.

    Ask him, somebody, please. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    PragueAddick said:
    Gribbo said:
    Think more searching questions should be levelled at Jones at this point tbh. It's not like he's not had the backing
    I agree. But someone could, indirectly, by asking Charlie about our transfer and wages budget for this season compared with Wrexham's. (Forget Birmingham, it's a grotesque aberration). Charlie may try to deflect by saying that actual fees  and wages can never be known, but in truth he has a spreadsheet which gives him a very good idea.

    Ask him, somebody, please. 
    I’m sure he believed our budget was around the 4th highest, he talked about the breakdown of our income and spend on a recent YouTube interview.

    This one I think: https://youtu.be/9sk77BnfkN0?si=-Zqw-UfSB3HGaQna
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Sage said:
    Doubt I’ll be able to make this, unfortunately.

    Would love to know what the realistic plans for The Valley is going forward. Would love to know why no one in any kind of position identified the glaring lack of creativity and whether this is an urgent priority to be addressed.

    Can see Methven really using as much PR skills as possible though without really giving a clear answer to some questions. 
    I think he's well within his rights to say that they feel they've supported the manager, and cover themselves by saying the manager still nas the backing of the board
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    Isn’t the issue that in these types of meetings people usually have to submit questions through a ‘top table’ of the organisers who filter things, rather than direct two way conversations happening?
    Question and answer sessions can mean attendees have a very passive role, where a ding dong debate might be more revealing.
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    seth plum said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    Isn’t the issue that in these types of meetings people usually have to submit questions through a ‘top table’ of the organisers who filter things, rather than direct two way conversations happening?
    Question and answer sessions can mean attendees have a very passive role, where a ding dong debate might be more revealing.
    That is not what occurs at Bromley meetings, has happened at previous club organised events
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited September 2024
    I think the problem is closer to this: I get asked questions by other councillors at our council meetings, some of them politically hostile. As leader I am immersed in what goes on to a far greater extent than any of the people asking questions. I know a lot more than they do by virtue of being leader. I have a team of people working under me. They don’t. Other things being equal I am always in a strong position to reply. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    JohnnyH2 said:
    seth plum said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    Isn’t the issue that in these types of meetings people usually have to submit questions through a ‘top table’ of the organisers who filter things, rather than direct two way conversations happening?
    Question and answer sessions can mean attendees have a very passive role, where a ding dong debate might be more revealing.
    That is not what occurs at Bromley meetings, has happened at previous club organised events
    That is why I said ‘usually’.
    I have never been to a Bromley meeting, I certainly wouldn’t be welcome there for a very specific reason, and I wouldn’t attend for a very specific reason.
    If people like going to a Bromley meeting then good for them.
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    seth plum said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    seth plum said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    Isn’t the issue that in these types of meetings people usually have to submit questions through a ‘top table’ of the organisers who filter things, rather than direct two way conversations happening?
    Question and answer sessions can mean attendees have a very passive role, where a ding dong debate might be more revealing.
    That is not what occurs at Bromley meetings, has happened at previous club organised events
    That is why I said ‘usually’.
    I have never been to a Bromley meeting, I certainly wouldn’t be welcome there for a very specific reason, and I wouldn’t attend for a very specific reason.
    If people like going to a Bromley meeting then good for them.
    No vegan options?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Off_it said:
    seth plum said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    seth plum said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    Isn’t the issue that in these types of meetings people usually have to submit questions through a ‘top table’ of the organisers who filter things, rather than direct two way conversations happening?
    Question and answer sessions can mean attendees have a very passive role, where a ding dong debate might be more revealing.
    That is not what occurs at Bromley meetings, has happened at previous club organised events
    That is why I said ‘usually’.
    I have never been to a Bromley meeting, I certainly wouldn’t be welcome there for a very specific reason, and I wouldn’t attend for a very specific reason.
    If people like going to a Bromley meeting then good for them.
    No vegan options?
    I don’t know if there is food offered at a Bromley meeting.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Sage said:
    Doubt I’ll be able to make this, unfortunately.

    Would love to know what the realistic plans for The Valley is going forward. Would love to know why no one in any kind of position identified the glaring lack of creativity and whether this is an urgent priority to be addressed.

    Can see Methven really using as much PR skills as possible though without really giving a clear answer to some questions. 
     To be fair to him, he's consistently said he's not the football man and he's left that side of it to people who know best.
    What we really need is Andy Scott In attendance to explain the successive process of god awful transfer windows.
    Suppose you could ask Methven why the blokes still here?
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    edited September 2024
    seth plum said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    Isn’t the issue that in these types of meetings people usually have to submit questions through a ‘top table’ of the organisers who filter things, rather than direct two way conversations happening?
    Question and answer sessions can mean attendees have a very passive role, where a ding dong debate might be more revealing.
    Probably why the questions get "filtered", because some people go to these things intent of having a ding dong, regardless if it's called for or not. Reckon this would also make it hard to find people from the club to appear at these types of events, if they are just run as a free for all.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Gribbo said:
    seth plum said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    Isn’t the issue that in these types of meetings people usually have to submit questions through a ‘top table’ of the organisers who filter things, rather than direct two way conversations happening?
    Question and answer sessions can mean attendees have a very passive role, where a ding dong debate might be more revealing.
    Probably why the questions get "filtered", because some people go to these things intent of having a ding dong, regardless if it's called for or not. Reckon this would also make it hard to find people from the club to appear at these types of events, if they are just run as a free for all.
    That’s really unusual in my experience, because the room doesn’t like it and there is generally a sense of “fair play” to the point of deference.
  • lonman
    lonman Posts: 254
    carly burn said:
    Sage said:
    Doubt I’ll be able to make this, unfortunately.

    Would love to know what the realistic plans for The Valley is going forward. Would love to know why no one in any kind of position identified the glaring lack of creativity and whether this is an urgent priority to be addressed.

    Can see Methven really using as much PR skills as possible though without really giving a clear answer to some questions. 
     To be fair to him, he's consistently said he's not the football man and he's left that side of it to people who know best.
    What we really need is Andy Scott In attendance to explain the successive process of god awful transfer windows.
    Suppose you could ask Methven why the blokes still here?
    In the summer window Jones chose the players. From the current showing, it might have been better to leave it to Andy Scott 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Gribbo said:
    seth plum said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Is there any example of people coming out of these meetings and not saying how impressed / reassured / encouraged they are? I suppose KM’s expanded fans’ forum in 2015, but she was probably a special case.

    I’m not blaming fans because it’s rarely appropriate or possible to ask and follow up hard questions when people are “giving up their time” (presumably unlike supporters), but I think they are easy meat for directors etc. 

    Then there are the actual outcomes on the pitch and in the stands.

    Isn’t the issue that in these types of meetings people usually have to submit questions through a ‘top table’ of the organisers who filter things, rather than direct two way conversations happening?
    Question and answer sessions can mean attendees have a very passive role, where a ding dong debate might be more revealing.
    Probably why the questions get "filtered", because some people go to these things intent of having a ding dong, regardless if it's called for or not. Reckon this would also make it hard to find people from the club to appear at these types of events, if they are just run as a free for all.
    Can you recall the various meetings over the years that have descended into ding dongs?
    People who attend might be reluctant to agree to do so if it is a free for all, does that mean that prior to such meetings the organisers communicate with the guests asking what their wishes and red lines are, and reassure them that their wishes will be obeyed and red lines not crossed?

  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    My questions would be, why do we need both Rodwell and Scott on the football side and what do Warrick and Elliot actually do? Is this set-up providing value for money?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Airman Brown said:
    My questions would be, why do we need both Rodwell and Scott on the football side and what do Warrick and Elliot actually do? Is this set-up providing value for money?
    Good question, come along and ask it

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