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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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Hasn’t helped that Jones has been so chippy on the odd occasions where we’ve got a result or played ok.
Little digs and “I told you so” comments just serve to piss people off and make him look stupid when we slip back into an extended spell of dross
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I was firmly in the give Jones time camp until Tuesday. That is the worst performance in my time supporting the club I think. We've been beaten worse but not by a side so shite. The little jabs at the fans really irritate me too.5
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He is an incredibly unlikeable little twerp. The comments post Birmingham summed him up, and the warning signs were there after his bizarre interviews at Stoke and Southampton.daveydanger said:Hasn’t helped that Jones has been so chippy on the odd occasions where we’ve got a result or played ok.
Little digs and “I told you so” comments just serve to piss people off and make him look stupid when we slip back into an extended spell of dross12 -
Love it CroydonCroydon said:
He is an incredibly unlikeable little twerp. The comments post Birmingham summed him up, and the warning signs were there after his bizarre interviews at Stoke and Southampton.daveydanger said:Hasn’t helped that Jones has been so chippy on the odd occasions where we’ve got a result or played ok.
Little digs and “I told you so” comments just serve to piss people off and make him look stupid when we slip back into an extended spell of dross
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The snipey arsey comments when we win a game and then the subsequent disappearance of the spikey cnutishness when it all goes back to shit make him look a complete bell .
I love his enthusiasm but he’s just a dinosaur in football coaching terms .
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We won’t be doing anything significant in January. A couple of loans to plug the injury gaps and that’s it. Just my view but I definitely think Jones will start next season as manager. We’ll need to replace some of the departing squad but again I don’t think they’ll be real money spent anywhere. Jones is about as stubborn and self delusional as you can get. He’ll completely believe that if he perseveres then things will come good. I think he’s probably the only one that does. I think that when the dust settles on this wasted season they’ll be questions asked and hopefully meaningful targets set by the owners but I’d be astonished if he’s not manager next season.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If they're going to get rid then they have to do it soon so the new manager has the January window to bring in people he wants.Radostanradical said:A real question what will it take to get rid of him ? If the board are starting to question him surely theres no point hanging around now.
More so than poor results, the team has zero philosophy on how they want to play. I truly believe he wants out now but wont walk away form the money. He makes illogical decisions I think in sometimes out of spite as he still see's himself as that innovative young coach who was heralded and its almost like he cant make changes as that would be conceding to the fans and he knows better.
Ok injuries but were they any worse than what holden had before we sacked him ? No and it was him who decided Ness wasnt good enough to be a squad player but somehow players like Potts who is (and we all knew) perennially injured. £1m on Ahadme is crazy and whilst i dont blame Jones fully for Alfie leaving (and feel most of the reason Alfie wanted to go for cash and family reasons) he made it easy for Alfie to want to leave.
Honestly get rid now and lets go back to Jacko (if he will take us) or even Chris Powell. Men of character and intelligence and no ego.
No point getting rid of Jones in February and then (for example) hiring a new manager who likes to play with wide players........and he finds out that we don't have any and he's fucked until the summer.1 -
He isn't threatening to leave the club any more if the fans think they can do better. Threatening to stay more like.1
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Agree with this but he still needs results for that to happen. If we lose a few more games and things get really toxic then the owners will have no choice but to actShootersHillGuru said:
We won’t be doing anything significant in January. A couple of loans to plug the injury gaps and that’s it. Just my view but I definitely think Jones will start next season as manager. We’ll need to replace some of the departing squad but again I don’t think they’ll be real money spent anywhere. Jones is about as stubborn and self delusional as you can get. He’ll completely believe that if he perseveres then things will come good. I think he’s probably the only one that does. I think that when the dust settles on this wasted season they’ll be questions asked and hopefully meaningful targets set by the owners but I’d be astonished if he’s not manager next season.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If they're going to get rid then they have to do it soon so the new manager has the January window to bring in people he wants.Radostanradical said:A real question what will it take to get rid of him ? If the board are starting to question him surely theres no point hanging around now.
More so than poor results, the team has zero philosophy on how they want to play. I truly believe he wants out now but wont walk away form the money. He makes illogical decisions I think in sometimes out of spite as he still see's himself as that innovative young coach who was heralded and its almost like he cant make changes as that would be conceding to the fans and he knows better.
Ok injuries but were they any worse than what holden had before we sacked him ? No and it was him who decided Ness wasnt good enough to be a squad player but somehow players like Potts who is (and we all knew) perennially injured. £1m on Ahadme is crazy and whilst i dont blame Jones fully for Alfie leaving (and feel most of the reason Alfie wanted to go for cash and family reasons) he made it easy for Alfie to want to leave.
Honestly get rid now and lets go back to Jacko (if he will take us) or even Chris Powell. Men of character and intelligence and no ego.
No point getting rid of Jones in February and then (for example) hiring a new manager who likes to play with wide players........and he finds out that we don't have any and he's fucked until the summer.
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Jones’s credibility as a coach is now hanging by a thread. Should he ultimately fail at Charlton, I’d struggle to see him getting a gig anywhere above league two and possibly not even that. He must be a worried man deep down but he’s too barking mad to change what he’s doing. I think he’ll start next season but I reckon we’ll be having this conversation in earnest this time next year.3
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He did that after we beat Bolton, a dig presumably at Andy Scott after Docherty scored a good goal and Jones felt Docherty could be a goalscoring midfielder.daveydanger said:Hasn’t helped that Jones has been so chippy on the odd occasions where we’ve got a result or played ok.
Little digs and “I told you so” comments just serve to piss people off and make him look stupid when we slip back into an extended spell of dross
Months later we’ve not seen anything else from Docherty to suggest he could be that player.
It’s not needed but we could accept or ignore it if we were winning plenty of games.
It would also make more sense had we got to this stage of the season and Docherty was on track to score double figures by the end of the season.10 -
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Feel like it's going to take a couple of transfer windows just to undo some of the work done in the last one one. We've got some players on long-term contracts who aren't good enough.ShootersHillGuru said:
We won’t be doing anything significant in January. A couple of loans to plug the injury gaps and that’s it. Just my view but I definitely think Jones will start next season as manager. We’ll need to replace some of the departing squad but again I don’t think they’ll be real money spent anywhere. Jones is about as stubborn and self delusional as you can get. He’ll completely believe that if he perseveres then things will come good. I think he’s probably the only one that does. I think that when the dust settles on this wasted season they’ll be questions asked and hopefully meaningful targets set by the owners but I’d be astonished if he’s not manager next season.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If they're going to get rid then they have to do it soon so the new manager has the January window to bring in people he wants.Radostanradical said:A real question what will it take to get rid of him ? If the board are starting to question him surely theres no point hanging around now.
More so than poor results, the team has zero philosophy on how they want to play. I truly believe he wants out now but wont walk away form the money. He makes illogical decisions I think in sometimes out of spite as he still see's himself as that innovative young coach who was heralded and its almost like he cant make changes as that would be conceding to the fans and he knows better.
Ok injuries but were they any worse than what holden had before we sacked him ? No and it was him who decided Ness wasnt good enough to be a squad player but somehow players like Potts who is (and we all knew) perennially injured. £1m on Ahadme is crazy and whilst i dont blame Jones fully for Alfie leaving (and feel most of the reason Alfie wanted to go for cash and family reasons) he made it easy for Alfie to want to leave.
Honestly get rid now and lets go back to Jacko (if he will take us) or even Chris Powell. Men of character and intelligence and no ego.
No point getting rid of Jones in February and then (for example) hiring a new manager who likes to play with wide players........and he finds out that we don't have any and he's fucked until the summer.2 -
I doubt we’ll be sucked into a relegation scrap. We’ll stumble through to a disappointing mid table finish and the bullshit will fly from SMT and Jones to the owners as to why next season will be better. Don’t see any way he’ll be sacked unless I’m wrong about the relegation scrap.NabySarr said:
Agree with this but he still needs results for that to happen. If we lose a few more games and things get really toxic then the owners will have no choice but to actShootersHillGuru said:
We won’t be doing anything significant in January. A couple of loans to plug the injury gaps and that’s it. Just my view but I definitely think Jones will start next season as manager. We’ll need to replace some of the departing squad but again I don’t think they’ll be real money spent anywhere. Jones is about as stubborn and self delusional as you can get. He’ll completely believe that if he perseveres then things will come good. I think he’s probably the only one that does. I think that when the dust settles on this wasted season they’ll be questions asked and hopefully meaningful targets set by the owners but I’d be astonished if he’s not manager next season.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If they're going to get rid then they have to do it soon so the new manager has the January window to bring in people he wants.Radostanradical said:A real question what will it take to get rid of him ? If the board are starting to question him surely theres no point hanging around now.
More so than poor results, the team has zero philosophy on how they want to play. I truly believe he wants out now but wont walk away form the money. He makes illogical decisions I think in sometimes out of spite as he still see's himself as that innovative young coach who was heralded and its almost like he cant make changes as that would be conceding to the fans and he knows better.
Ok injuries but were they any worse than what holden had before we sacked him ? No and it was him who decided Ness wasnt good enough to be a squad player but somehow players like Potts who is (and we all knew) perennially injured. £1m on Ahadme is crazy and whilst i dont blame Jones fully for Alfie leaving (and feel most of the reason Alfie wanted to go for cash and family reasons) he made it easy for Alfie to want to leave.
Honestly get rid now and lets go back to Jacko (if he will take us) or even Chris Powell. Men of character and intelligence and no ego.
No point getting rid of Jones in February and then (for example) hiring a new manager who likes to play with wide players........and he finds out that we don't have any and he's fucked until the summer.0 -
I cant agree with you there mate. Our owners ( regardless of what some claim ) have and are spending large sums of money, just running the club is eyewatering. They are businessmen, investors, and they need to see progression towards a ROI. Mid table is not acceptable to investors if results dont significantly improve I think he will be gone before XmasShootersHillGuru said:
I doubt we’ll be sucked into a relegation scrap. We’ll stumble through to a disappointing mid table finish and the bullshit will fly from SMT and Jones to the owners as to why next season will be better. Don’t see any way he’ll be sacked unless I’m wrong about the relegation scrap.NabySarr said:
Agree with this but he still needs results for that to happen. If we lose a few more games and things get really toxic then the owners will have no choice but to actShootersHillGuru said:
We won’t be doing anything significant in January. A couple of loans to plug the injury gaps and that’s it. Just my view but I definitely think Jones will start next season as manager. We’ll need to replace some of the departing squad but again I don’t think they’ll be real money spent anywhere. Jones is about as stubborn and self delusional as you can get. He’ll completely believe that if he perseveres then things will come good. I think he’s probably the only one that does. I think that when the dust settles on this wasted season they’ll be questions asked and hopefully meaningful targets set by the owners but I’d be astonished if he’s not manager next season.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If they're going to get rid then they have to do it soon so the new manager has the January window to bring in people he wants.Radostanradical said:A real question what will it take to get rid of him ? If the board are starting to question him surely theres no point hanging around now.
More so than poor results, the team has zero philosophy on how they want to play. I truly believe he wants out now but wont walk away form the money. He makes illogical decisions I think in sometimes out of spite as he still see's himself as that innovative young coach who was heralded and its almost like he cant make changes as that would be conceding to the fans and he knows better.
Ok injuries but were they any worse than what holden had before we sacked him ? No and it was him who decided Ness wasnt good enough to be a squad player but somehow players like Potts who is (and we all knew) perennially injured. £1m on Ahadme is crazy and whilst i dont blame Jones fully for Alfie leaving (and feel most of the reason Alfie wanted to go for cash and family reasons) he made it easy for Alfie to want to leave.
Honestly get rid now and lets go back to Jacko (if he will take us) or even Chris Powell. Men of character and intelligence and no ego.
No point getting rid of Jones in February and then (for example) hiring a new manager who likes to play with wide players........and he finds out that we don't have any and he's fucked until the summer.4 -
Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.ShootersHillGuru said:Jones’s credibility as a coach is now hanging by a thread. Should he ultimately fail at Charlton, I’d struggle to see him getting a gig anywhere above league two and possibly not even that. He must be a worried man deep down but he’s too barking mad to change what he’s doing. I think he’ll start next season but I reckon we’ll be having this conversation in earnest this time next year.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.0 -
This SMT are in too deep with him to sack him. Big old contract and in getting rid they show the actual owners they've failed AGAIN.blackpool72 said:
Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.ShootersHillGuru said:Jones’s credibility as a coach is now hanging by a thread. Should he ultimately fail at Charlton, I’d struggle to see him getting a gig anywhere above league two and possibly not even that. He must be a worried man deep down but he’s too barking mad to change what he’s doing. I think he’ll start next season but I reckon we’ll be having this conversation in earnest this time next year.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.5 -
blackpool72 said:
Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.ShootersHillGuru said:Jones’s credibility as a coach is now hanging by a thread. Should he ultimately fail at Charlton, I’d struggle to see him getting a gig anywhere above league two and possibly not even that. He must be a worried man deep down but he’s too barking mad to change what he’s doing. I think he’ll start next season but I reckon we’ll be having this conversation in earnest this time next year.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.
Yup this is what I expect to ultimately happen regardless of the SMT. Can't see another 2 defeats with bad performances and confusing team selections being tolerated.0 -
J BLOCK said:
This SMT are in too deep with him to sack him. Big old contract and in getting rid they show the actual owners they've failed AGAIN.blackpool72 said:
Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.ShootersHillGuru said:Jones’s credibility as a coach is now hanging by a thread. Should he ultimately fail at Charlton, I’d struggle to see him getting a gig anywhere above league two and possibly not even that. He must be a worried man deep down but he’s too barking mad to change what he’s doing. I think he’ll start next season but I reckon we’ll be having this conversation in earnest this time next year.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.
I think the owners will know only too well that they are failing.
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I think the owners will know they have failed and hopefully replace them as well.J BLOCK said:
This SMT are in too deep with him to sack him. Big old contract and in getting rid they show the actual owners they've failed AGAIN.blackpool72 said:
Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.ShootersHillGuru said:Jones’s credibility as a coach is now hanging by a thread. Should he ultimately fail at Charlton, I’d struggle to see him getting a gig anywhere above league two and possibly not even that. He must be a worried man deep down but he’s too barking mad to change what he’s doing. I think he’ll start next season but I reckon we’ll be having this conversation in earnest this time next year.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.1 -
Jones has lost the supporters without any doubt. We all know that a couple of wins will buy him time with the owners and some supporters. But the dire performances recently make that unlikely. Jones has been able to use injuries as a partial excuse( although they have not impacted the terrible midfield). He now has Lloyd Jones, Leaburn and Kanu back, so that excuse will not last much longer.
We could slip into the relegation zone within the next 2/3 games. If that happens Jones cannot survive Xmas.2 -
Hopefully they’ll act quickly and get rid asap. Remember, this is old hat for us so we’re very jaded but ‘reluctant’ about another change. But for them this is all new. I think they’ll act quickly seeing as we’re plunging down the table and the performances are dire. I hope so anyway otherwise we’re fucked.2
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We're fucked anyway. There is no way of knowing what will happen with yet another new manager but I would bet it will be exactly the same and we will be here again next December. I think the club is on the way out and has been for quite some time now. Combined with the way football is going across the leagues the opportunity for a sudden boost from an unexpected direction seems to be a thing of the past.3
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You wont be saying that when we finish 12th but get play-offs because Jones uses his we beat birmingham joker card which adds 30 additional pointsoohaahmortimer said:The snipey arsey comments when we win a game and then the subsequent disappearance of the spikey cnutishness when it all goes back to shit make him look a complete bell .
I love his enthusiasm but he’s just a dinosaur in football coaching terms .
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oohaahmortimer said:The snipey arsey comments when we win a game and then the subsequent disappearance of the spikey cnutishness when it all goes back to shit make him look a complete bell .
I love his enthusiasm but he’s just a dinosaur in football coaching terms .
can the next shit manager arrive soon please
Sounds like 90% of the posters on here tbh.
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I think lose heavy at Lincoln (which I can see happening - 3-1 to them my early prediction FYI) and that will be it.blackpool72 said:Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.0 -
Ooooh !forzajuve_27 said:
I think lose heavy at Lincoln (which I can see happening - 3-1 to them my early prediction FYI) and that will be it.blackpool72 said:Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.
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I can’t see it. Think how long they left Appleton in place when it was obviously going one way. Like Appleton, Jones is the man they’ve picked and backed so they need it to work and will leave it as long as possible before admitting it hasn’tforzajuve_27 said:
I think lose heavy at Lincoln (which I can see happening - 3-1 to them my early prediction FYI) and that will be it.blackpool72 said:Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.
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McGrandles hat trick where he celebrates like a mad man.forzajuve_27 said:
I think lose heavy at Lincoln (which I can see happening - 3-1 to them my early prediction FYI) and that will be it.blackpool72 said:Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.1 -
Regarding Jones immediate or in this case lack of immediate future I think there’s a lot more wishful thinking going on rather than considered views.5
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Definitely agree, he's lucky in a way that the table gives a bit of a false position given we're midtable but the teams below are a lot closer than the teams above.NabySarr said:
I can’t see it. Think how long they left Appleton in place when it was obviously going one way. Like Appleton, Jones is the man they’ve picked and backed so they need it to work and will leave it as long as possible before admitting it hasn’tforzajuve_27 said:
I think lose heavy at Lincoln (which I can see happening - 3-1 to them my early prediction FYI) and that will be it.blackpool72 said:Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.
Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas.
I think Jones loses the rest of the fanbase with a poor defeat on Saturday, but it will take a few more for the owners to act
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Appleton kept blaming the injury list and saying when we had players back, we'd have a massive push - same as Jones is saying now. They came back and we were still rubbish and he was sacked. I'm sure NJ will be given the same courtesy.
Tbh if Jones thinks the current injury list is bad, he hasn't been following us in recent years3
