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  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,966
    Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
    There had been an extensive inquiry already, what it needs is to be fully implemented  as the lady leading that inquiry has said this week.
    Exactly where I am. Talk all you like for years on end at absolutely obscene cost to the taxpayer, 'lessons will be learned' and all that guff, and it will make no difference at all until action is taken.


  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,517
    edited January 9
    I've not read the thread, but if Musk had any involvement with our club, that's me done after 65 yrs of support. Success at any cost...not for me. The man is a nasty piece of work and despite his billions he's got that through nicking other people's ideas, for example Tesla and Space X. He's a dangerous rich man with the morals of  a weasel! 
    Think you're safe to continue your support Red...👍
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,144
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    He thought nothing about the safety of Jess Phillips who has campaigned all her life for the protection of women and girls. 

    His inflammatory words could incite others to do her harm. 

    He is a very dangerous man.
    There is a shock jock that did the same about an individual in the Southport riots. Don't recall a clamour from the holy on here when he said that.

  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    When you get a thread of this nature, it’s like the whole team comes out to play.

  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,786
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    seth plum said:
    If if you don’t use Pay Pal, have a Tesla motorcar, and have never been on Twitter, Musk is an irrelevance
    No he's not. He has offered a lot to the world in terms of leading the charge (pun intended) on EV tech and also provides a lot to charities.  
    This again? The myth that absolutely refuses to die.

    He hasn't done anything in 'EV tech'. He bought Tesla from its founders, and used (and continues to use) government subsidies to run his business. The taxpayer of the US is funding Musk - Tesla LOSES money selling cars. This is how they make 'profit': 

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/31/investing/tesla-profitability/index.html

    And the only reason he donates to charities is for tax purposes - the same reason most billionaires do. he doesn't even do what's 'required' of him there, either:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/12/us/politics/musk-foundation-taxes-donations.html
    Fair challenges I don't read American news outlets. 
    It's CNN and the New York Times, ffs. They're about as close to unbiased and accurate as you could possibly get. One of them is left leaning, the other right. 

    How DO you get your news on current affairs? Twitter? Telegram? 

    Jesus Christ
    Not true. They’re both left. The NY Post is the right leaning one. 
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  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,144
    Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
    Got told tonight by a source (police) that some councils have been paying victims hush money. Wonder which councils that would be.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
    There had been an extensive inquiry already, what it needs is to be fully implemented  as the lady leading that inquiry has said this week.
    Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
    There had been an extensive inquiry already, what it needs is to be fully implemented  as the lady leading that inquiry has said this week.
     That inquiry was neither extensive nor concerned with the specific phenomenon of 'grooming gangs' as it is often termed by way of attempting to hide the reality of what occurred. The report was on CSA, not GLCSE; the two are not the same. If you didn't realise that, fair enough. If you did, shame on you.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,144
    Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
    There had been an extensive inquiry already, what it needs is to be fully implemented  as the lady leading that inquiry has said this week.
    Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
    There had been an extensive inquiry already, what it needs is to be fully implemented  as the lady leading that inquiry has said this week.
     That inquiry was neither extensive nor concerned with the specific phenomenon of 'grooming gangs' as it is often termed by way of attempting to hide the reality of what occurred. The report was on CSA, not GLCSE; the two are not the same. If you didn't realise that, fair enough. If you did, shame on you.
    Its also been stated that a load of data is missing from that inquiry.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    He thought nothing about the safety of Jess Phillips who has campaigned all her life for the protection of women and girls. 

    His inflammatory words could incite others to do her harm. 

    He is a very dangerous man.
    Jess Philips? The same Jess Philips who likened the Cologne NYE sexual assaults to a jolly night out on the piss in Birmingham Broad Street?

    The same one that made the 'grooming' scandal all about herself and her feelings?  The one who complained about abuse during the GE but refused to say where it was coming from because it was politically inconvenient, just like a proper inquiry would be.

    She cares about no-one but herself. She is vile.
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    If only there was cake involved.
  • Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
    There had been an extensive inquiry already, what it needs is to be fully implemented  as the lady leading that inquiry has said this week.
    An extensive inquiry? Are you serious?

    The report essentially looked generally at organised sexual abuse networks and included the rape gangs as an aside. It was not specifically about the rape gang scandal at all, looked at only six areas that did not have major rape gangs (while an estimated fifty towns across England and Wales have been affected by them), only mentioned hotbeds of rape gang activity like Rotherham once, only mentioned Rochdale in reference to paedophile Lib Dem MP Cyril Smith, did not mention Telford at all —where an estimated 1,000 victims were raped and abused—and did not even recommend punishment for the authorities that failed our children.

    Yup apart from all that, it was pretty extensive. 

    What are you afraid of that a proper, full extensive inquiry would reveal?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,263
    They're out in force tonight!
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    That's the thing about hush money.  It really works until someone in the police blabs to someone who posts on a football forum.  

    #MoneyWellSpent
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,348
    edited January 9
    First the internet connected everyone, and then it divided everyone. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Chunes said:
    First the internet connected everyone, and then it divided everyone. 
    No it didn't 

     ;) 
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  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,761
    Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that cantersaddick said:
    Elon doesn't like nonces, or people who cover up for nonces, or people who enable nonces or people who do their utmost to ensure that the people who covered up for nonces don't get brought to justice for covering up for and enabling nonces.

    A lot of people feel the same way and applaud the pressure that he has put on this (and the previous) cowardly, morally bankrupt Government to try and get them to stop putting the interests of nonces and their enablers above those of the victims.

    Not many hereabouts, though, obviously.
    the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!
    Clearly you don't even understand what 'cognitive dissonance' means, then.

    And I apologise for assuming that the majority of commenters hereabouts did not support the calls for a comprehensive Public Enquiry (although it should actually be at the level of a Royal Commission) into arguably the most shameful episode of our modern history.
    There had been an extensive inquiry already, what it needs is to be fully implemented  as the lady leading that inquiry has said this week.
    An extensive inquiry? Are you serious?

    The report essentially looked generally at organised sexual abuse networks and included the rape gangs as an aside. It was not specifically about the rape gang scandal at all, looked at only six areas that did not have major rape gangs (while an estimated fifty towns across England and Wales have been affected by them), only mentioned hotbeds of rape gang activity like Rotherham once, only mentioned Rochdale in reference to paedophile Lib Dem MP Cyril Smith, did not mention Telford at all —where an estimated 1,000 victims were raped and abused—and did not even recommend punishment for the authorities that failed our children.

    Yup apart from all that, it was pretty extensive. 

    What are you afraid of that a proper, full extensive inquiry would reveal?
    As a woman I abhor violence and exploitation, so why would I  be worried what an inquiry might reveal. 

    Another long and very expensive inquiry would only delay the implementation of the recommendations already made. 
  • Blackheathen
    Blackheathen Posts: 6,655
    I've not read the thread, but if Musk had any involvement with our club, that's me done after 65 yrs of support. Success at any cost...not for me. The man is a nasty piece of work and despite his billions he's got that through nicking other people's ideas, for example Tesla and Space X. He's a dangerous rich man with the morals of  a weasel! 
    Dangerous rich man with the morals of a weasel.  Sounds like Trump.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited January 9
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    seth plum said:
    If if you don’t use Pay Pal, have a Tesla motorcar, and have never been on Twitter, Musk is an irrelevance
    No he's not. He has offered a lot to the world in terms of leading the charge (pun intended) on EV tech and also provides a lot to charities.  
    This again? The myth that absolutely refuses to die.

    He hasn't done anything in 'EV tech'. He bought Tesla from its founders, and used (and continues to use) government subsidies to run his business. The taxpayer of the US is funding Musk - Tesla LOSES money selling cars. This is how they make 'profit': 

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/31/investing/tesla-profitability/index.html

    And the only reason he donates to charities is for tax purposes - the same reason most billionaires do. he doesn't even do what's 'required' of him there, either:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/12/us/politics/musk-foundation-taxes-donations.html
    Fair challenges I don't read American news outlets. 
    It's CNN and the New York Times, ffs. They're about as close to unbiased and accurate as you could possibly get. One of them is left leaning, the other right. 

    How DO you get your news on current affairs? Twitter? Telegram? 

    Jesus Christ
    Being English, British news outlets. I didn't say they weren't valid. Simply that I don't read them. 

    In fairness I rarely watch/read any news these days, it's all far too depressing.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Big question here is ........ will this thread last the night?
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    I've not read the thread, but if Musk had any involvement with our club, that's me done after 65 yrs of support. Success at any cost...not for me. The man is a nasty piece of work and despite his billions he's got that through nicking other people's ideas, for example Tesla and Space X. He's a dangerous rich man with the morals of  a weasel! 
    Dangerous rich man with the morals of a weasel.  Sounds like Trump.
    Totally agree, Trump and Musk what a dangerous combination they are! 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    edited January 9
    I have to say, a random thread about a completely hypothetical and unfounded scenario of the richest man in the world buying Charlton Athletic which then descends into a political argument about who does and doesn't protect paedophiles is absolutely peak Charlton Life.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,966
    I have to say, a random thread about a completely hypothetical and unfounded scenario of the richest man in the world buying Charlton Athletic which then descends into a political argument is absolutely peak Charlton Life.
    Don't forget the school dinners, a vital element of this thread too
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    I've not read the thread, but if Musk had any involvement with our club, that's me done after 65 yrs of support. Success at any cost...not for me. The man is a nasty piece of work and despite his billions he's got that through nicking other people's ideas, for example Tesla and Space X. He's a dangerous rich man with the morals of  a weasel! 
    Dangerous rich man with the morals of a weasel.  Sounds like Trump.
    Totally agree, Trump and Musk what a dangerous combination they are! 
    But in reality, how long will those two last before they fall out? Egomaniacs don't make good friends with other egomaniacs.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    I have to say, a random thread about a completely hypothetical and unfounded scenario of the richest man in the world buying Charlton Athletic which then descends into a political argument about who does and doesn't protect paedophiles is absolutely peak Charlton Life.

  • Off_it said:
    Big question here is ........ will this thread last the night?
    Absolutely no chance given the way it's turned in the past hour or so.
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