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  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,615
    edited March 25
    fenaddick said:
    There's no money at all at Shrewsbury and plenty at Gillingham, both will be in L2 next season so can see why he's jumped ship
    Plenty at money at Gillingham?!

    They can complete that stand that was never finished due to funding issues.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    edited March 25
    Ainsworth is the fifth manager of the Gills in 18 months. 
  • fenaddick said:
    There's no money at all at Shrewsbury and plenty at Gillingham, both will be in L2 next season so can see why he's jumped ship
    I have no idea how well funded Gillingham are nowadays, but there is certainly no money at Shrewsbury. 

    It is becoming ever harder for smaller clubs to survive in L1, let alone compete.

    Consider this. Last season, Lincoln finished 7th with the 12th largest playing budget in L1.

    This season, and despite increasing the budget from last season, they have the 19th largest budget in L1.

    Their CEO states that they would need to add 60% to their budget to have the 12th highest this year, to double it simply to challenge the top six clubs, and far more multiples to match the top two or three. He has also stated that to finish in the top half of the league this season would be a far better achievement pound for pound than finishing 7th last year. 

    Here's the killer: that 19th-placed budget will still result in a loss of around £3m this year, money that has to come from investors. 

    Oxford - a similar sized club to Lincoln in terms of support - were promoted last season. A great achievement? No. They lost almost £16m in the process, taking their total debt to an eyewatering £49m. It should not be permitted, simple as that. 

    And the higher up the pyramid we go, the problem is magnified many fold.

    The need for a football regulator with effective fair play rules has never been greater. In the meantime, traditional community clubs like Lincoln and Shrewsbury will continue to slip down the pyramid through no fault of their own.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    These are the average attendances in L1, and they do show the expected strong link between attendances and where clubs are in the table.

    Wycombe are the real outlier, reflecting their wealthy owner. Indeed I'm shocked by how poor their attendances are.


  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Gareth Ainsworth has a weird Wikipedia photo, pass it on.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,036
    Needs this job to be a success or that's 3 failures in a row since leaving Wycombe and you wonder who else will take a chance on him.
    ABBA.
  • MintoHumbugs
    MintoHumbugs Posts: 753
    edited March 26
    Gills fans were sold a duff dream by a multi millionaire new owner who never spent the money and now moving on to his 6th manager in 2 years with the club sitting 19th place in League 2.

    Things must have been horrendous at Shrewsbury for Ainsworth  to choose that move.

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,785
    These are the average attendances in L1, and they do show the expected strong link between attendances and where clubs are in the table.

    Wycombe are the real outlier, reflecting their wealthy owner. Indeed I'm shocked by how poor their attendances are.


    Just goes to show what an incredible job Nigel Clough did at Burton. From the Southern League to League 2 in his first spell and then from League 1 to the Championship (where they didn't get relegated until following their second season). Burton's actual capacity is 6,912 so their crowd would have been, even full, lower than any other team in the Championship with the associated income too. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I note with some interest that George Lapslie is doing pretty well at Bradford City after being transferred away from Gillingham.
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  • walshiesleftfoot
    walshiesleftfoot Posts: 1,208
    Mark Bonner did not want Lapsie in the team. He was put on the transfer list and he lost his squad number. Anyway George got back in the team and scored a few goals. Then in January Bradford othered him a 3 year contract and he went . 
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Mark Bonner did not want Lapsie in the team. He was put on the transfer list and he lost his squad number. Anyway George got back in the team and scored a few goals. Then in January Bradford othered him a 3 year contract and he went . 
    My Gills mate told me, he was their highest paid player and they therefore had to get him off their books 
  • MintoHumbugs
    MintoHumbugs Posts: 753
    Just listened to Ainsworth interview.
    Pretty much the same as he reeled out a few months ago when joining Shrewsbury.
    Talking of long term plans as a Gills manager is pretty pointless though when they only last a strawberry picking season.

  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,222
    edited March 26
    Shrewsbury Town are pleased to announce the appointment of Michael Appleton as head coach for the remainder of the 2024/25 season.

    https://www.shrewsburytown.com/news/2025/march/26/michael-appleton-takes-charge-until-the-end-of-the-season-/
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Yay. Do the picture. Wibble. I can't really muster enthusiasm now, not now we've been there 
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,114
    shirty5 said:
    Shrewsbury Town are pleased to announce the appointment of Michael Appleton as head coach for the remainder of the 2024/25 season.

    https://www.shrewsburytown.com/news/2025/march/26/michael-appleton-takes-charge-until-the-end-of-the-season-/
    bloody hell.  Relegation and po-faced misery guts as manager. What a time to be a Shrewsbury fan.  
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    ‘Michael was my number one target’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Leaving aside everything else, I'm baffled why he would take the job anyway. He must be desperate for ANY managerial position to take over a club, facing a 99.9% certainty of relegation.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    It still amazes and terrifies me that we ended up with Appleton. 
    I remember when he was appointed, I thought it was a hoax.
    He always came across as a strange bloke who just felt wrong on every level as our manager. 
    The fact we had him as a Charlton boss at all is and will always be one of the most damning markers in our wrenched recent history. 

  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    They're already down, and I'm sure they know that. Surely there's a youth team coach or a senior player that they could take a punt on until the end of the season, that maybe just maybe might turn out to have something about him that could help them next season.

    Michael Appleton is an experienced manager who guarantees results - bad results. The poor Shrewsbury media guy that's written that article for their website, desperately trying to find a positive way to present this terrible decision, but you don't have to be great at reading between the lines to see that it basically says he's managed loads of clubs and was shite everywhere except Oxford "where he earned his first promotion". His only promotion. 

    Dreadful, inexcusable decision.
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  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,114
    Valley11 said:
    It still amazes and terrifies me that we ended up with Appleton. 
    I remember when he was appointed, I thought it was a hoax.
    He always came across as a strange bloke who just felt wrong on every level as our manager. 
    The fact we had him as a Charlton boss at all is and will always be one of the most damning markers in our wrenched recent history. 

    Some of the randoms we had in the 2010s are surely more baffling than Appleton.  I could not stand the guy but at least he has been promoted out of league one so had SOME experience. 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Yeah at least he had achieved something previously. 

    I also liked Karl Robinson - go on, shoot me. 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,768
    He must interview really well
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    BalladMan said:
    Valley11 said:
    It still amazes and terrifies me that we ended up with Appleton. 
    I remember when he was appointed, I thought it was a hoax.
    He always came across as a strange bloke who just felt wrong on every level as our manager. 
    The fact we had him as a Charlton boss at all is and will always be one of the most damning markers in our wrenched recent history. 

    Some of the randoms we had in the 2010s are surely more baffling than Appleton.  I could not stand the guy but at least he has been promoted out of league one so had SOME experience. 

    Karel Fraeye will always be the weirdest we ever had. But Appleton will definitely make the Top 5. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    Didn’t Appleton have a low risk job at Man U. Why would he walk away from that for a 9 game stint at a relegation bound club
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    I just had a flash back to when one of their supporters punched/touched/made contact with bowyers head after the play off match at their ground. 

    Fast forward and they are L2 bound and have Appleton as their manager. Karma!!!!  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    BalladMan said:
    Valley11 said:
    It still amazes and terrifies me that we ended up with Appleton. 
    I remember when he was appointed, I thought it was a hoax.
    He always came across as a strange bloke who just felt wrong on every level as our manager. 
    The fact we had him as a Charlton boss at all is and will always be one of the most damning markers in our wrenched recent history. 

    Some of the randoms we had in the 2010s are surely more baffling than Appleton.  I could not stand the guy but at least he has been promoted out of league one so had SOME experience. 
    And while they were more likeable individuals, both Holden and Adkins were pretty random appointments too. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    Didn’t Appleton have a low risk job at Man U. Why would he walk away from that for a 9 game stint at a relegation bound club
    Pretty sure he's been out of work since he left us.

    There was talk of him going to Man U to be their loan manager overseeing the kids they've loaned out but that was only because he's mates with Dan Ashworth who was then sacked.
  • MintoHumbugs
    MintoHumbugs Posts: 753
    Shrewsbury replace failure Ainsworth with failure Appleton. Ainsworth moves to Gills to be closer to his next job back at Sky.
    Funny old game.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Experienced manager is Apples. They don't grow on trees.