If we're going to worry about dropped points then the Peterborough game is the obvious one. But in reality that isn't how it works, over a whole season you will end up pretty much where you deserve. Our late charge has probably come one, maybe two games too late but it's been a hell of a try
Dropping 5 points at home to Mansfield and Crawley, two of the worst teams in the league is more obvious for me. Peterborough away is a tricky game.
Despite sounding like a bit of a twat post-match; Dodds wasn't wrong when he said that they conceded four soft goals against us (I think the only one I'd be really "happy" with conceding was Berry's), and they've got to put it down as a blip because they've been so defensively strong since he's joined the club.
Its going forward where they suddenly don't look a threat and wouldnt worry me as much.
Wycombe or Stockport I fear are two Play-Off opponents that could easily get decided on a penalty shootout.
The phrase "we conceded four soft goals" hides an awful lot wrong with a performance. Especially when the facts (7 shots on target to 2) spell out the fact it wasn't just "soft" goals that resulted in the thrashing.
Despite sounding like a bit of a twat post-match; Dodds wasn't wrong when he said that they conceded four soft goals against us (I think the only one I'd be really "happy" with conceding was Berry's), and they've got to put it down as a blip because they've been so defensively strong since he's joined the club.
Its going forward where they suddenly don't look a threat and wouldnt worry me as much.
Wycombe or Stockport I fear are two Play-Off opponents that could easily get decided on a penalty shootout.
The phrase "we conceded four soft goals" hides an awful lot wrong with a performance. Especially when the facts (7 shots on target to 2) spell out the fact it wasn't just "soft" goals that resulted in the thrashing.
"we lost 7 nil, but it was 7 soft goals so technically we drew 0-0"
Plenty of twists & turns in the last couple of games for everyone. Hopefully the footballing gods repay us for the late Barnsley goal against Brentford that sent us down.
I hope and believe we will go up but I’m also worried that the current owners don’t have a pot to piss in and we’ll see an immediate return to League 1 thanks to a total lack of investment in the squad.
I hope and believe we will go up but I’m also worried that the current owners don’t have a pot to piss in and we’ll see an immediate return to League 1 thanks to a total lack of investment in the squad.
This is spot on... No point in going up via automatic or Wembley if we then drop down again.
We've not seen any depth to the owners pockets at all and two loans in the January window is hardly a statement of any intent.
We all remember the wonderful feeling when Bauer scored the winning goal but getting relegated a season later was a real blow.
I'd love to see our Owners say that they're proud of the Manager, Team and Fans and that if we get promoted funds will be there. Clearly this is utterly blue sky thinking on my part but this Board has been very quiet and I'm not impressed and feeling reassured.
I hope and believe we will go up but I’m also worried that the current owners don’t have a pot to piss in and we’ll see an immediate return to League 1 thanks to a total lack of investment in the squad.
This is spot on... No point in going up via automatic or Wembley if we then drop down again.
We've not seen any depth to the owners pockets at all and two loans in the January window is hardly a statement of any intent.
We all remember the wonderful feeling when Bauer scored the winning goal but getting relegated a season later was a real blow.
I'd love to see our Owners say that they're proud of the Manager, Team and Fans and that if we get promoted funds will be there. Clearly this is utterly blue sky thinking on my part but this Board has been very quiet and I'm not impressed and feeling reassured.
disagree. Even a single season is worth it otherwise we will dwindle and fade.
I hope and believe we will go up but I’m also worried that the current owners don’t have a pot to piss in and we’ll see an immediate return to League 1 thanks to a total lack of investment in the squad.
This is spot on... No point in going up via automatic or Wembley if we then drop down again.
We've not seen any depth to the owners pockets at all and two loans in the January window is hardly a statement of any intent.
We all remember the wonderful feeling when Bauer scored the winning goal but getting relegated a season later was a real blow.
I'd love to see our Owners say that they're proud of the Manager, Team and Fans and that if we get promoted funds will be there. Clearly this is utterly blue sky thinking on my part but this Board has been very quiet and I'm not impressed and feeling reassured.
disagree. Even a single season is worth it otherwise we will dwindle and fade.
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
I hope and believe we will go up but I’m also worried that the current owners don’t have a pot to piss in and we’ll see an immediate return to League 1 thanks to a total lack of investment in the squad.
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
Alfie May was under contract.
Sure but NJ and May didn’t get on. Those players above all look (currently) like they’d run through brick walls for NJ
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
Alfie May was under contract.
Sure but NJ and May didn’t get on. Those players above all look (currently) like they’d run through brick walls for NJ
Whereas Chuks is the brick wall for other teams to run in to ! 🙂
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Let's not be doom and gloom about losing players before we even know what's going to happen.
We lost our two best players from last season and have jumped up the table from 16th to 2nd-5th.
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
We are a selling club, always have been, always will be.
Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.
Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Let's not be doom and gloom about losing players before we even know what's going to happen.
We lost our two best players from last season and have jumped up the table from 16th to 2nd-5th.
In NJ we trust.
It's not doom and gloom, it's just a promotion is always very welcome to avoid the risk of losing your better players or at least getting good fees for them.
TC would be worth close to 10 million if he has this season in the championship. Unlikely to command that fee in league 1
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
We are a selling club, always have been, always will be.
Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.
Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.
To an extent I agree but I have a feeling we’re less of a selling club than we’ve been conditioned to be in recent times. I certainly don’t think we would sell even 50% of the names mentioned in one window, I just don’t think Jones would take it
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
We are a selling club, always have been, always will be.
Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.
Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.
99.9% of all football clubs are selling clubs, that's how football operates unless you're Real Madrid.
We're also a buying club, hence the likes of Ramsay, Jones, Mannion joining us from smaller clubs as they see us as a step upwards (and bigger payers).
Had a quick look again at the play off timings & thinking that if we get 3rd then travelling to 6th place team shouldn't be too bad, seeing as its either going to be Orient or Reading. A 12.30 kick off at either is a lot better than going to Stockport or Bolton /Blackpool (if they had made the play offs).
Any other permutations might be better known after Saturday, but even then I think 2nd to 5th wont be sorted out until the final day.
But if we play Wycombe I'm going for tickets in the home end 😉.
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
We are a selling club, always have been, always will be.
Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.
Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.
To be fair unless you're Real Madrid or Barcelona that is pretty much every club. Even Man Utd lost Ronaldo. Liverpool are league champions and are likely to lose Trent. Forest are having their best season in a generation, in a cup semi final and could get into the CL and there's talk of Gibbs-White going to Man City.
It's always disappointing to lose your best players but it's not something that bothers me too much, because it's hypocritical. As an example, will i be sorry if Ramsay goes? Yes obviously. Was i sorry for Harrogate when they lost him to us? Absolutely not.
Cant believe people are talking about how pointless golfaddick said:
Had a quick look again at the play off timings & thinking that if we get 3rd then travelling to 6th place team shouldn't be too bad, seeing as its either going to be Orient or Reading. A 12.30 kick off at either is a lot better than going to Stockport or Bolton /Blackpool (if they had made the play offs).
Any other permutations might be better known after Saturday, but even then I think 2nd to 5th wont be sorted out until the final day.
But if we play Wycombe I'm going for tickets in the home end 😉.
Reading would be a better allocation too, rest of them have tiny grounds.
Reading give me anxiety. I don’t want to deal with being sucked into their against the odds story / fairytale. And they actually have a bizarrely strong home record too.
Reading’s first 11 is as good as any in League One - they just have zero squad depth, as shown by the fact that Billy Bodin is their main attacker on the bench. As long as their starting 11 stay fit then they’ve got a chance.
Reading give me anxiety. I don’t want to deal with being sucked into their against the odds story / fairytale. And they actually have a bizarrely strong home record too.
Reading would be the under the radar side if they are in the Play offs with their off field woes and it them or Orient for the 6th place with the rubbish end of the season of Bolton and Huddersfield.
Despite sounding like a bit of a twat post-match; Dodds wasn't wrong when he said that they conceded four soft goals against us (I think the only one I'd be really "happy" with conceding was Berry's), and they've got to put it down as a blip because they've been so defensively strong since he's joined the club.
Its going forward where they suddenly don't look a threat and wouldnt worry me as much.
Wycombe or Stockport I fear are two Play-Off opponents that could easily get decided on a penalty shootout.
Agreed it was similar to our Peterborough loss, we went down early and then started chasing the match leaving ourselves open for soft goals
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
We are a selling club, always have been, always will be.
Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.
Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.
99.9% of all football clubs are selling clubs, that's how football operates unless you're Real Madrid.
We're also a buying club, hence the likes of Ramsay, Jones, Mannion joining us from smaller clubs as they see us as a step upwards (and bigger payers).
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too
We are a selling club, always have been, always will be.
Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.
Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.
To be fair unless you're Real Madrid or Barcelona that is pretty much every club. Even Man Utd lost Ronaldo. Liverpool are league champions and are likely to lose Trent. Forest are having their best season in a generation, in a cup semi final and could get into the CL and there's talk of Gibbs-White going to Man City.
It's always disappointing to lose your best players but it's not something that bothers me too much, because it's hypocritical. As an example, will i be sorry if Ramsay goes? Yes obviously. Was i sorry for Harrogate when they lost him to us? Absolutely not.
Gents comparing us to La Liga giants is a bit extreme, and going a bit off topic.
I've got to say of all the players mentioned, we didn't buy any of them? No fees apart from Ramsay, which would have been a very small fee.
The point was, there is never a bad time to get promoted, as all it does is increase your clubs value, your revenue, your players value, your clubs interest and the list goes on.
It's extremely difficult to build a long term promotion side in league 1 as the championship vultures start circling, as we are already seeing with our better players.
Our history shows that we are very much a selling club, and cannot be compared to the likes of Liverpool, Man United etc as they're such extreme examples and on a different level revenue wise.
Back to the original point, there is never a bad time to get promoted, we need promotion.
Reading’s first 11 is as good as any in League One - they just have zero squad depth, as shown by the fact that Billy Bodin is their main attacker on the bench. As long as their starting 11 stay fit then they’ve got a chance.
Could say the same for us though with Hylton on our bench. if Godden gets injured we're going to struggle.
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We've not seen any depth to the owners pockets at all and two loans in the January window is hardly a statement of any intent.
We all remember the wonderful feeling when Bauer scored the winning goal but getting relegated a season later was a real blow.
I'd love to see our Owners say that they're proud of the Manager, Team and Fans and that if we get promoted funds will be there. Clearly this is utterly blue sky thinking on my part but this Board has been very quiet and I'm not impressed and feeling reassured.
If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1.
You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up?
Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at
We lost our two best players from last season and have jumped up the table from 16th to 2nd-5th.
In NJ we trust.
Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.
Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.
TC would be worth close to 10 million if he has this season in the championship. Unlikely to command that fee in league 1
We're also a buying club, hence the likes of Ramsay, Jones, Mannion joining us from smaller clubs as they see us as a step upwards (and bigger payers).
Any other permutations might be better known after Saturday, but even then I think 2nd to 5th wont be sorted out until the final day.
But if we play Wycombe I'm going for tickets in the home end 😉.
It's always disappointing to lose your best players but it's not something that bothers me too much, because it's hypocritical. As an example, will i be sorry if Ramsay goes? Yes obviously. Was i sorry for Harrogate when they lost him to us? Absolutely not.
Reading would be the under the radar side if they are in the Play offs with their off field woes and it them or Orient for the 6th place with the rubbish end of the season of Bolton and Huddersfield.
I've got to say of all the players mentioned, we didn't buy any of them? No fees apart from Ramsay, which would have been a very small fee.
The point was, there is never a bad time to get promoted, as all it does is increase your clubs value, your revenue, your players value, your clubs interest and the list goes on.
It's extremely difficult to build a long term promotion side in league 1 as the championship vultures start circling, as we are already seeing with our better players.
Our history shows that we are very much a selling club, and cannot be compared to the likes of Liverpool, Man United etc as they're such extreme examples and on a different level revenue wise.
Back to the original point, there is never a bad time to get promoted, we need promotion.