Playoffs Guaranteed Minimum - Good Friday

fenaddick said:

If we're going to worry about dropped points then the Peterborough game is the obvious one. But in reality that isn't how it works, over a whole season you will end up pretty much where you deserve. Our late charge has probably come one, maybe two games too late but it's been a hell of a try

Dropping 5 points at home to Mansfield and Crawley, two of the worst teams in the league is more obvious for me. Peterborough away is a tricky game. 

Chizz said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Dunno... I'm still cautious of facing Wycombe.

Despite sounding like a bit of a twat post-match; Dodds wasn't wrong when he said that they conceded four soft goals against us (I think the only one I'd be really "happy" with conceding was Berry's), and they've got to put it down as a blip because they've been so defensively strong since he's joined the club.

Its going forward where they suddenly don't look a threat and wouldnt worry me as much.

Wycombe or Stockport I fear are two Play-Off opponents that could easily get decided on a penalty shootout.

The phrase "we conceded four soft goals" hides an awful lot wrong with a performance. Especially when the facts (7 shots on target to 2) spell out the fact it wasn't just "soft" goals that resulted in the thrashing. 

"we lost 7 nil, but it was 7 soft goals so technically we drew 0-0"

I hope and believe we will go up but I’m also worried that the current owners don’t have a pot to piss in and we’ll see an immediate return to League 1 thanks to a total lack of investment in the squad.

flyingkiwiDK said:

I hope and believe we will go up but I’m also worried that the current owners don’t have a pot to piss in and we’ll see an immediate return to League 1 thanks to a total lack of investment in the squad.

This is spot on... No point in going up via automatic or Wembley if we then drop down again.

We've not seen any depth to the owners pockets at all and two loans in the January window is hardly a statement of any intent.

We all remember the wonderful feeling when Bauer scored the winning goal but getting relegated a season later was a real blow.

I'd love to see our Owners say that they're proud of the Manager, Team and Fans and that if we get promoted funds will be there. Clearly this is utterly blue sky thinking on my part but this Board has been very quiet and I'm not impressed and feeling reassured. 

We will also keep our better players 

There is never a bad time to be promoted. 

If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1. 

You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up? 

Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at 

flyingkiwiDK said:

I hope and believe we will go up but I’m also worried that the current owners don’t have a pot to piss in and we’ll see an immediate return to League 1 thanks to a total lack of investment in the squad.

Who funded the 14m we lost last year?

Braziliance said:

There is never a bad time to be promoted. 

If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1. 

You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up? 

Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at 

Let's not be doom and gloom about losing players before we even know what's going to happen.

We lost our two best players from last season and have jumped up the table from 16th to 2nd-5th.

In NJ we trust.

Callumcafc said:

Braziliance said:

There is never a bad time to be promoted. 

If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1. 

You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up? 

Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at 

Let's not be doom and gloom about losing players before we even know what's going to happen.

We lost our two best players from last season and have jumped up the table from 16th to 2nd-5th.

In NJ we trust.

It's not doom and gloom, it's just a promotion is always very welcome to avoid the risk of losing your better players or at least getting good fees for them. 

TC would be worth close to 10 million if he has this season in the championship. Unlikely to command that fee in league 1

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

There is never a bad time to be promoted. 

If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1. 

You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up? 

Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at 

Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too

We are a selling club, always have been, always will be. 

Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.

Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.

99.9% of all football clubs are selling clubs, that's how football operates unless you're Real Madrid.

We're also a buying club, hence the likes of Ramsay, Jones, Mannion joining us from smaller clubs as they see us as a step upwards (and bigger payers).

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

There is never a bad time to be promoted. 

If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1. 

You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up? 

Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at 

Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too

We are a selling club, always have been, always will be. 

Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.

Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.

To be fair unless you're Real Madrid or Barcelona that is pretty much every club. Even Man Utd lost Ronaldo. Liverpool are league champions and are likely to lose Trent. Forest are having their best season in a generation, in a cup semi final and could get into the CL and there's talk of Gibbs-White going to Man City.

It's always disappointing to lose your best players but it's not something that bothers me too much, because it's hypocritical. As an example, will i be sorry if Ramsay goes? Yes obviously. Was i sorry for Harrogate when they lost him to us? Absolutely not.

Reading give me anxiety. I don’t want to deal with being sucked into their against the odds story / fairytale. And they actually have a bizarrely strong home record too.

Callumcafc said:

Reading give me anxiety. I don’t want to deal with being sucked into their against the odds story / fairytale. And they actually have a bizarrely strong home record too.

Reading would be the under the radar side if they are in the Play offs with their off field woes and it them or Orient for the 6th place with the rubbish end of the season of Bolton and Huddersfield.

killerandflash said:

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

There is never a bad time to be promoted. 

If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1. 

You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up? 

Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at 

Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too

We are a selling club, always have been, always will be. 

Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.

Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.

99.9% of all football clubs are selling clubs, that's how football operates unless you're Real Madrid.

We're also a buying club, hence the likes of Ramsay, Jones, Mannion joining us from smaller clubs as they see us as a step upwards (and bigger payers).

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

There is never a bad time to be promoted. 

If we don't go up, we are going to get absolutely raided. Very difficult to build a team in league1. 

You think the likes of Ramsay, Small, Campbell, Coventry, Jones etc fancy another season of this when they've all proven they can probably make the step up? 

Let's just win these 2 and see where we are at 

Doesn’t hugely matter what Ramsay, Campbell, Coventry, Jones fancy as they’re under contract and it’s not their choice. TC had bids turned down for him in January and Jones chose to stay too

We are a selling club, always have been, always will be. 

Doesn't matter if a player is on a 10 year deal. If a bigger club comes in for our players, we will struggle to keep them.

Promotion is very important if we want to avoid a mini rebuild.

To be fair unless you're Real Madrid or Barcelona that is pretty much every club. Even Man Utd lost Ronaldo. Liverpool are league champions and are likely to lose Trent. Forest are having their best season in a generation, in a cup semi final and could get into the CL and there's talk of Gibbs-White going to Man City.

It's always disappointing to lose your best players but it's not something that bothers me too much, because it's hypocritical. As an example, will i be sorry if Ramsay goes? Yes obviously. Was i sorry for Harrogate when they lost him to us? Absolutely not.

Gents comparing us to La Liga giants is a bit extreme, and going a bit off topic. 

I've got to say of all the players mentioned, we didn't buy any of them? No fees apart from Ramsay, which would have been a very small fee. 

The point was, there is never a bad time to get promoted, as all it does is increase your clubs value, your revenue, your players value, your clubs interest and the list goes on. 

It's extremely difficult to build a long term promotion side in league 1 as the championship vultures start circling, as we are already seeing with our better players. 

Our history shows that we are very much a selling club, and cannot be compared to the likes of Liverpool, Man United etc as they're such extreme examples and on a different level revenue wise.

Back to the original point, there is never a bad time to get promoted, we need promotion.