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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    Chizz said:
    If Pant's injury recovers to the extent that he is fit enough to bat, having had his feet up for the majority of the England innings, should he be denied a substitute when (if) England bat again? 
    It definitely feels like a loophole. India have a better keeping on the field than Pant, who can have a nice rest before batting. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,934
    I know the ball was slightly out of shape as was shown when it wouldn't go through the rings.
    But it was behaving perfectly for the bowlers I thought they should have persevered with it
    India have really "ballsed up". They have one that is doing less now than the previous one and looks a lot older too. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    I know the ball was slightly out of shape as was shown when it wouldn't go through the rings.
    But it was behaving perfectly for the bowlers I thought they should have persevered with it
    Yes it was odd when that ball was doing plenty. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,744
    Another ball change coming up.
    Hhopefully this one will be as soft as the last 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,366
    Twelve and a quarter overs per hour so far.  Including 22 overs from Ravindra Jadeja and Washington Sundar
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,764
    Feels like there needs to be some regulation around ball changes, unless the umpires decide independently it needs changing you are only allowed 1 change or 3 attempts or something. It’s a complete farce as it is 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,366
    fenaddick said:
    Feels like there needs to be some regulation around ball changes, unless the umpires decide independently it needs changing you are only allowed 1 change or 3 attempts or something. It’s a complete farce as it is 
    It was mostly cleared up a few years ago when they introduced the two rings, one of which the ball must pass through, the other of which it mustn't. So, unlike historically it's pretty much a "factual", binary check on the physical shape of the ball. 

    What they really need to do is get some better-made balls. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,764
    Chizz said:
    fenaddick said:
    Feels like there needs to be some regulation around ball changes, unless the umpires decide independently it needs changing you are only allowed 1 change or 3 attempts or something. It’s a complete farce as it is 
    It was mostly cleared up a few years ago when they introduced the two rings, one of which the ball must pass through, the other of which it mustn't. So, unlike historically it's pretty much a "factual", binary check on the physical shape of the ball. 

    What they really need to do is get some better-made balls. 
    Obviously that's the best solution but this ins't the first batch of bad Dukes balls in the last few years so some regulation would be helpful too
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,765
    Chizz said:
    Twelve and a quarter overs per hour so far.  Including 22 overs from Ravindra Jadeja and Washington Sundar
    4mins allowed for drinks and India took about 8. No doubt they will avoid all the penalty points though
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,508
    Smith and Pant about to break the record for joint wicket keeper run totals in a series.
    We're two and a bit tests in!

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  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,334
    As a ill informed cricket fan, why the hell if the weather is good, can the teams not stay out there until the full 90 overs are bowled, the cost of a test match ticket is so bloody expensive fans shouldn't be getting short changed.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,815
    As a ill informed cricket fan, why the hell if the weather is good, can the teams not stay out there until the full 90 overs are bowled, the cost of a test match ticket is so bloody expensive fans shouldn't be getting short changed.
    Because cricket is so stuck in its ways . Absolutely no flexibility and it’s so frustrating when you go to watch international cricket. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,366
    As a ill informed cricket fan, why the hell if the weather is good, can the teams not stay out there until the full 90 overs are bowled, the cost of a test match ticket is so bloody expensive fans shouldn't be getting short changed.
    It can't be difficult to introduce a condition that says at least thirty overs must be bowled in a session. Starve the bowlers until they've met their commitment, instead of letting them stroll off and have an unearned cuppa. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    The steward/doorman in the Lord's museum is a Charlton fan. The Che Hales t shirt is a good conversation opener!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    Chizz said:
    As a ill informed cricket fan, why the hell if the weather is good, can the teams not stay out there until the full 90 overs are bowled, the cost of a test match ticket is so bloody expensive fans shouldn't be getting short changed.
    It can't be difficult to introduce a condition that says at least thirty overs must be bowled in a session. Starve the bowlers until they've met their commitment, instead of letting them stroll off and have an unearned cuppa. 
    I think most spectators like the 1 to 1:40 break though.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,816
    As a ill informed cricket fan, why the hell if the weather is good, can the teams not stay out there until the full 90 overs are bowled, the cost of a test match ticket is so bloody expensive fans shouldn't be getting short changed.
    Just echoing what I've been saying for years.

    Fun though, because the number of overs bowled in a day doesn't matter until the final day. And then its so mportant the last hour is noted & 15 HAVE to be bowled no matter what. 
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,888
    Consensus seemed to be 350 was par so we've done to get past it here. Anything close to 400 would be very nice
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    Yet another delay, this time for an injury to Gill.

    Ridiculous that he hasn't gone off for his treatment 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,366
    Chizz said:
    As a ill informed cricket fan, why the hell if the weather is good, can the teams not stay out there until the full 90 overs are bowled, the cost of a test match ticket is so bloody expensive fans shouldn't be getting short changed.
    It can't be difficult to introduce a condition that says at least thirty overs must be bowled in a session. Starve the bowlers until they've met their commitment, instead of letting them stroll off and have an unearned cuppa. 
    I think most spectators like the 1 to 1:40 break though.
    Most spectators like to see all the offers they've paid for
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,764
    Elsewhere, Jersey have just beaten Scotland which means that either Jersey or Italy (or both) will be first time qualifiers for the next T20 WC

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    Stokes warming up. No sign of any injury


  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,744
    Chizz said:
    As a ill informed cricket fan, why the hell if the weather is good, can the teams not stay out there until the full 90 overs are bowled, the cost of a test match ticket is so bloody expensive fans shouldn't be getting short changed.
    It can't be difficult to introduce a condition that says at least thirty overs must be bowled in a session. Starve the bowlers until they've met their commitment, instead of letting them stroll off and have an unearned cuppa. 
    The restaurants at Lords will all be fully booked for 1pm.
    If play continues to say 1.15 or 1.20 plenty of people would be late to lunch and late for start of play in the 2nd session. 
    Having said that in the members enclosure at Lords half of the old farts fall fast asleep after consuming a decent lunch.
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,072
    edited July 11
    Archers' back!!!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    Jofra!!! Great start for him, right on the money from the start.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,366
    Let's just hope Archer stays fit enough for a second over 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,122
    Jofra straight in the 90s. Fantastic to see. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    jakecafc said:
    Archers' back!!!
    round 90 mph from a seemingly effortless action, he's now 30 y.o. and is well into his prime
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,080
    Worried about Archer lugging 5kg of gold chain every time he runs in. Can't be good on his knees
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,934
    edited July 11
    fenaddick said:
    Elsewhere, Jersey have just beaten Scotland which means that either Jersey or Italy (or both) will be first time qualifiers for the next T20 WC
    Who knew that Italy was such a hotbed of emerging talent? Italy 's current squad members (country of birth)

    Gareth Berg (South Africa)
    Joe Burns (Australia)
    Marcus Campopiano (England)
    Thomas Draca (Australia)
    Emilio Gay (England)
    Jaspreet Singh (India)
    Crishan Kalugamage (Sri Lanka)
    Nicholas Maiolo (Australia) 
    Ben Manenti (Australia)
    Harry Manenti (Australia)
    Wayne Masden (South Africa)
    Gian-Piero Meade (South Africa)
    Anthony Mosca (USA)
    Justin Mosca (Italy) 
    Grant Stewart (Australia)
    Zain Ali (Italy)
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,930
    fenaddick said:
    Elsewhere, Jersey have just beaten Scotland which means that either Jersey or Italy (or both) will be first time qualifiers for the next T20 WC
    Who knew that Italy was such a hotbed of emerging talent? Italy 's current squad members (country of birth)

    Gareth Berg (South Africa)
    Joe Burns (Australia)
    Marcus Campopiano (England)
    Thomas Draca (Australia)
    Emilio Gay (England)
    Jaspreet Singh (India)
    Crishan Kalugamage (Sri Lanka)
    Nicholas Maiolo (Australia) 
    Ben Manenti (Australia)
    Harry Manenti (Australia)
    Wayne Masden (South Africa)
    Gian-Piero Meade (South Africa)
    Anthony Mosca (USA)
    Justin Mosca (Italy) 
    Grant Stewart (Australia)
    Zain Ali (Italy)
    they have got a friendly coming up, against The 1990 Republic of Ireland football team