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++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++

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  • Chunes said:
    I thought Kelman played well but none of our strikers have made the position their own yet. The battle for the starting place is still wide open and one of them needs to step up. 
    It says a lot that most of us would put a fit Godden straight back in the team. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,325
    If we could actually play it on the deck and create chances he would look a lot better. 

    Just got to be honest about us at times and say we don't exactly play attractive football, it's effective but that's about it. 

    His best performance yesterday and he will get better.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,823
    He's been brought in as he's a goal poacher but he's not missed any chances all season... I think he's a decent player but our lack of creativity / quality in the final third is preventing us seeing the best of him
    Exactly so we should have bought someone more suited to the system , or adapt the system.  Not his fault - he did look sharper yesterday , no doubt 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    shouldn’t have started today against Cooper. Bad call by Jones 
    Why?
    Cooper is a man mountain and had him in his pocket all game 
    What was he doing when Kelman ran off him into the channel and put the ball across the face of goal? 
    One cross in an hour-long performance isn't that much tbh. 

    He did well but you can't pretend like the Millwall defense was ever really troubled by his presence. Campbell sure, but not really Kelman. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,026
    Chunes said:
    I thought Kelman played well but none of our strikers have made the position their own yet. The battle for the starting place is still wide open and one of them needs to step up. 
    It says a lot that most of us would put a fit Godden straight back in the team. 
    All the time Godden is out and we aren’t doing well upfront Godden’s reputation will grow!
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,818
    As long as we are pumping long balls for Kelman to win in the air, we ain’t gonna score many goals 
  • MrOneLung said:
    As long as we are pumping long balls for Kelman to win in the air, we ain’t gonna score many goals 
    Unless you are playing to his strenghs, what is the point?
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,184
    MrOneLung said:
    As long as we are pumping long balls for Kelman to win in the air, we ain’t gonna score many goals 
    So true. Lots went up to campbells head as well!
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,308
    MrOneLung said:
    As long as we are pumping long balls for Kelman to win in the air, we ain’t gonna score many goals 
    Which IMO makes it all the more baffling we went big for someone like Kelman given the football we play. Someone like Kone fits our style perfectly. Godden is a rarity in that he is deceivingly good in the air for his height and is strong. Still not convinced Kelamn fits with Jones football. 
  • Doesn’t matter what way you want to paint it, if the price is correct which has been quoted, then we got royally shafted by qpr. So many were adamant kone was crap but failed to see Wycombe had a change of manager and his form dipped, he is twice the player kelman is unfortunately and got him for cheaper ! 
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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,272
    Doesn’t matter what way you want to paint it, if the price is correct which has been quoted, then we got royally shafted by qpr. So many were adamant kone was crap but failed to see Wycombe had a change of manager and his form dipped, he is twice the player kelman is unfortunately and got him for cheaper ! 
    I was arguing on here before that Kone was a much better signing, but there’s no guarantee Kone would have signed for us. In fact, I think it’s very unlikely he would have done, a player that good with that much potential will always attract established championship interest and choose that over a newly promoted team

    If we had the choice of Kone or Kelman we would definitely have signed Kone, but we didn’t have that choice so Kelman is probably the best striker we could have got 
  • NabySarr said:
    Doesn’t matter what way you want to paint it, if the price is correct which has been quoted, then we got royally shafted by qpr. So many were adamant kone was crap but failed to see Wycombe had a change of manager and his form dipped, he is twice the player kelman is unfortunately and got him for cheaper ! 
    I was arguing on here before that Kone was a much better signing, but there’s no guarantee Kone would have signed for us. In fact, I think it’s very unlikely he would have done, a player that good with that much potential will always attract established championship interest and choose that over a newly promoted team

    If we had the choice of Kone or Kelman we would definitely have signed Kone, but we didn’t have that choice so Kelman is probably the best striker we could have got 
    Probably true, but it's a but painful that the Kelman money we paid QPR, paid for Kone.
  • Can understand we’re not playing to Kelman’s strengths but if you look at TC despite being small he gave Crama and Leonard absolute hell down that left side and battled away with them constantly. I don’t expect Kelman to be winning headers and throwing those kind of centrebacks to the floor but would like him to show a bit better play all round, his goal scoring isn’t a massive concern I don’t think until he starts missing chance after chance 
  • Can understand we’re not playing to Kelman’s strengths but if you look at TC despite being small he gave Crama and Leonard absolute hell down that left side and battled away with them constantly. I don’t expect Kelman to be winning headers and throwing those kind of centrebacks to the floor but would like him to show a bit better play all round, his goal scoring isn’t a massive concern I don’t think until he starts missing chance after chance 
    Be nice if he got a chance to miss
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    a better game Saturday but just cant see him scoring, the service he gets also isn't brilliant. 

    as mentioned on the post match thread our lack of goals/chances ( 3 on Saturday ) are a massive concern. on balance I didn't expect us to get much from Leicester or Bristol city, as they are both sides who i expect to be involved in the top part of the table come end of season. 

    the magic number of 46 is still our target Imo. although disappointing i try to see Saturday as another point gained. 
     
  • More frustrating that Kone and Burrell scored for QPR yesterday
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    More frustrating that Kone and Burrell scored for QPR yesterday
    The Burrell goal is hilarious, Coady looks like he's running through quicksand
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,223
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMO
  • fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    Apart from one season he hasn't scored much.

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  • sam3110 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMO
    Or he needs creative midfielders behind him to play him in. 
  • fenaddick said:
    More frustrating that Kone and Burrell scored for QPR yesterday
    The Burrell goal is hilarious, Coady looks like he's running through quicksand
    That was humiliating for Coady. Burrell gave him a massive headstart but still ran straight past him. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    edited September 15
    sam3110 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMO
    He played as a lone striker last season
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,272
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMO
    He played as a loan striker last season
    Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker roles 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMO
    He played as a loan striker last season
    Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker roles 
    In attack we set up in exactly the same way Orient did last season. You're right that the quality of defence is significantly higher but this idea he "needs" a strike partner isn't backed up by the fact that his best season was without one
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,272
    edited September 15
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMO
    He played as a loan striker last season
    Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker roles 
    In attack we set up in exactly the same way Orient did last season. You're right that the quality of defence is significantly higher but this idea he "needs" a strike partner isn't backed up by the fact that his best season was without one
    The style we play and what we demand from that striker is very very different though, and that matters a lot more than the formation we are playing 

    I don’t think he necessarily “needs” a strike partner but if he doesn’t have one then we need to adapt to him. Can’t just put him in Godden’s place, play the same way and then expect it to work when he’s a different player. I think there are signs we are adapting to him, he got more balls to feet on Saturday than previous games 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMO
    He played as a loan striker last season
    Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker roles 
    In attack we set up in exactly the same way Orient did last season. You're right that the quality of defence is significantly higher but this idea he "needs" a strike partner isn't backed up by the fact that his best season was without one
    The style we play and what we demand from that striker is very very different though, and that matters a lot more than the formation we are playing 

    I don’t think he necessarily “needs” a strike partner but if he doesn’t have one then we need to adapt to him. Can’t just put him in Godden’s place, play the same way and then expect it to work when he’s a different player. I think there are signs we are adapting to him, he got more balls to feet on Saturday than previous games 
    I agree we need to adapt, Carey needs to support his runs more and anticipate his movement. Our attack is basically completely new, it will take time for them to get used to each other. I'm not worried yet
  • fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMO
    He played as a loan striker last season
    Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker roles 
    In attack we set up in exactly the same way Orient did last season. You're right that the quality of defence is significantly higher but this idea he "needs" a strike partner isn't backed up by the fact that his best season was without one
    We're much more direct than Orient were though. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,125
    fenaddick said:
    Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly 
    He’s not going to score if we keep lumping it up to him.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,793
    a better game Saturday but just cant see him scoring, the service he gets also isn't brilliant. 

    as mentioned on the post match thread our lack of goals/chances ( 3 on Saturday ) are a massive concern. on balance I didn't expect us to get much from Leicester or Bristol city, as they are both sides who i expect to be involved in the top part of the table come end of season. 

    the magic number of 46 is still our target Imo. although disappointing i try to see Saturday as another point gained. 
     
    You would very probably go down on 46 points